2024-25 Niners Basketball ๐Ÿ€

I feel like we should be watching the Soconn for potential transfers now that rosters are year to year and portal based. Get a couple of the top players from there (and raid high point too while we are at it).

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In this general discussion, I did want to highlight that there is some marketing value in simply having sports, even if unsuccessful. Iโ€™m not that educated in marketing, but it is clearly a principle that merely having exposure to the public is good for business.

Having your name out there and in front of eyes gets people to know that you exist and perhaps who you are. Sports should foremost be thought of as advertisement for a university. Part of the value of an athletics fee is essentially a marketing fee. Sports allows a university to coat its advertisement in a narrative of ascending achievement and โ€œgiving kids a chanceโ€.

Additionally, the conference system offers the value of notoriety by association.

Edit: Just tagging @Ninercentral since I was probably responding mostly to his complaints.

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For @49er4life01 :

A total of 10 games will be featured on ESPN, ESPN2, or ESPNU, while another 20 games will be on ESPN+.

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Interesting because there isnโ€™t really a good spot for it in halton unless theyโ€™re downsizing it and having it just sit on the track between tunnels

Thanks!

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Haslam is predicting Niners go 16-12 vs currently known D-I foes:

Cliff notes:

Will do okay in nonconference.

But gonna lose almost all of our AAC games.

:thinking:

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Predicting 8-10 in conference. Of course, that will likely change - for better or worse - once season gets going.

Not arguing the predictions for the Niners, but how can anyone have any idea how good a team will be now. It was bad before when most of the starters would stick around because recruiting rankings were so unreliable and players developed at different rates. But now it seems like an absolute crap shoot, beyond a few known players that will talent their way to wins. Niners might be top half, bottom, middlingโ€ฆwho knows? Hope they can hurry up and fix this problem of mass transfers every year, my college fandom is hanging by a thread.

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Iโ€™m an advocate for a salary cap (NIL) and one free transfer but sitting out a year after that. I think both of those seem fair. I mean even professional sports have a salary cap (NIL) with contract terms (transfers). Iโ€™m thinking 2 yr contracts sounds fair.

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Steps like this could get me back into college basketball. Right now I just dont see the point. Its worse than prosports.

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Pro sports donโ€™t have a cap on NIL. That exists outside of the negotiated player salary structure.

There will never be a cap on NIL money. Book it.

There MAY be changes on what is acceptable NIL to try to weed out the phantom NIL money, but it will be hard.

There is no way that a cap on what a star player can make in NIL is ever going to have legs or standup in court. That genie is out of the bottle.

Thatโ€™s because what is being called NIL now isnโ€™t. Itโ€™s straight up pay to play.

Pay to play should be banned in college football, and if not then capped for competitive reasons.

NIL shouldnโ€™t be tied to playing for any team or university. NIL should only be for players doing endorsements, or for licensing issues like video games. If the deal is tied to playing at all, it should be illegal under competitive rules.

The tricky one is jersey sales. Thereโ€™s some potential abuse there, but not as bad as what we have now.

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Collective bargaining is the only way to get this under control but I assume the only way that works is with union and making them employees and once they happens it really ceases being anything close to the college athletics we all became fans of.