Anyone notice??

…who beat the crap out of UNC last weekend??
USF, the school who rolled the dice 10 yrs ago and is now walking into Chapel Hill taking them to the woodshed… Could of been us.

It is my prayer that 10 years from now we aren’t talking about similar situation. We can’t make up for lost time, but we can right this ship.

I don’t think a football team in North Carolina would be able to make the jump as fast as USF has, mainly because there is not enough in-state football talent to support an up and coming team. There really isn’t enough football talent to support the teams that already exist in-state. That being said, I am all for Charlotte football, but I don’t think it is wise to look at USF’s early success as something that can be pulled off here. I think it will be a much slower process for us, but one that needs to start ASAP.

USF is going to be a handful in the Big East even moreso next year. Their redshirt freshman QB is going to be a stud.

There’s tons of HS talent in NC, Charlotte region particularly. Especially at the skill positions. I think we’d do fine recruiting in NC, VA, and SC.

Also look at all the quality QBs from the MAC now in the NFL. There’s three reasons. One, poor scouting. Two, they want to play and not be stuck 3 years behind an incumbant. Three, coaching. When you look at the NFL ranks, players come from ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. There is no “I must play in X conference.” mindset.

Compared to Florida there is a large talent gap.

Just think USF competes with in-state for talent (FSU, UF, UM, UCF, FAU and FIU). Now three of those are major programs, but their leftovers are enough to get you very good (see Rutgers).

Charlotte would have to compete with…

In-State
UNC
NC State
Wake Forest
East Carolina
Duke (ha)
Appalacian State (1-AA)
NC A&T (1-AA)
Elon (1-AA)
Western Carolina (1-AA)
Winston-Salem State (1-AA)

Very Near By
USC
Clemson
Virginia Tech
Citadel (1-AA)
Furman (1-AA)
Wofford (1-AA)
South Carolina State (1-AA)

Sort of Near By
Tennessee
Georgia
Virginia
(Too many 1-AAs to list)

Point being, Florida is an anomaly of sorts when it comes to football, thus it isn’t surprising that USF has become this good this fast. I think it will be a slower road to success for us.

Just look at our struggles in basketball recruiting and we are top 5 in the region year in and year out. Imagine what it would be like building from scratch versus all the outlets for various levels of college football in the area.

[QUOTE=Charlotte2002;193428]
Now three of those are major programs,

Charlotte would have to compete with…

In-State
UNC
NC State
Wake Forest
East Carolina
Duke (ha)
Appalacian State (1-AA)
NC A&T (1-AA)
Elon (1-AA)
Western Carolina (1-AA)
Winston-Salem State (1-AA)

[/QUOTE]

Ok, UFL, FSU, & MIA are very major.

Now, which programs from that list of NC in-state schools are you calling major?

When you take into consideration they are 1-AA, App could have the best football program in that list of schools.

I know what you’re saying 2002, but I don’t think competing against certain schools in football will be nearly as tough as it is in basketball.

I’m not saying any of those in-state teams are major in terms of college football prowess. They are however major institutions and BCS conference teams.

The fact that there are so many 1-A and 1-AA football teams in the area makes football recruiting even that tougher. Florida doesn’t have the abundance of smaller level colleges that the NC/SC/TN/VA/GA area has, but its talent pool is superior.

[QUOTE=Charlotte2002;193428]Compared to Florida there is a large talent gap.

Just think USF competes with in-state for talent (FSU, UF, UM, UCF, FAU and FIU). Now three of those are major programs, but their leftovers are enough to get you very good (see Rutgers).

Charlotte would have to compete with…

In-State
UNC
NC State
Wake Forest
East Carolina
Duke (ha)
Appalacian State (1-AA)
NC A&T (1-AA)
Elon (1-AA)
Western Carolina (1-AA)
Winston-Salem State (1-AA)

Very Near By
USC
Clemson
Virginia Tech
Citadel (1-AA)
Furman (1-AA)
Wofford (1-AA)
South Carolina State (1-AA)

Sort of Near By
Tennessee
Georgia
Virginia
(Too many 1-AAs to list)

Point being, Florida is an anomaly of sorts when it comes to football, thus it isn’t surprising that USF has become this good this fast. I think it will be a slower road to success for us.

Just look at our struggles in basketball recruiting and we are top 5 in the region year in and year out. Imagine what it would be like building from scratch versus all the outlets for various levels of college football in the area.[/QUOTE]

this argument is such a strawman.
there is nothing in this world isolated from competition. Should Memphis shut down its program because its in the SEC heartland? What about UL and Cincy living in fear of Big 10 recruits? Competition for recruits is everywhere in every sport.

if there is one thing that is for sure, we screwed up big time 10 years ago not pursuing football like USF, and our priorities have been twisted for 2 decades with poor leadership. We have a huge amount of corp headquarters to cash in on (if someone were able). The core problem is that the leadership wants football to be an easy slam dunk (no careers on the line) before they act. The fact that we never have alum in charge is lethal too. All decisions are career decisions at UNCC instead of a little internal, gutty, alumn like, passionate decisions now and then.

people ask me all the time, “why have you disconnected from UNCC athletics”? the answer is apathy from our constant backstroke. I remember in the 90’s going to root against Denny Crum and UL, now we have Duquesne rolling into town. It will sink in with the most die hard of die hards eventually. I am to the point that I have no problem with a UNCC alum rooting for UNC or Duke. Our school is content on being average to below average and happy in the A10. Bigger and better achievment is not on the radar.

Their leftovers are enough to get you very good (see Rutgers).

Rutgers was a winless football team that became very good by recruiting in the South (Florida)

Charlotte is a winless football team too.

Charlotte is closer to the South. Advantage: Charlotte.

[QUOTE=metro;193457]this argument is such a strawman.
there is nothing in this world isolated from competition. Should Memphis shut down its program because its in the SEC heartland? What about UL and Cincy living in fear of Big 10 recruits? Competition for recruits is everywhere in every sport.

if there is one thing that is for sure, we screwed up big time 10 years ago not pursuing football like USF, and our priorities have been twisted for 2 decades with poor leadership. We have a huge amount of corp headquarters to cash in on (if someone were able). The core problem is that the leadership wants football to be an easy slam dunk (no careers on the line) before they act. The fact that we never have alum in charge is lethal too. All decisions are career decisions at UNCC instead of a little internal, gutty, alumn like, passionate decisions now and then.

people ask me all the time, “why have you disconnected from UNCC athletics”? the answer is apathy from our constant backstroke. I remember in the 90’s going to root against Denny Crum and UL, now we have Duquesne rolling into town. It will sink in with the most die hard of die hards eventually. I am to the point that I have no problem with a UNCC alum rooting for UNC or Duke. Our school is content on being average to below average and happy in the A10. Bigger and better achievment is not on the radar.[/QUOTE]

clt will never pull for unc-ch or duke and questions your true niner loyality. is clt happy about going to the a-10? no, but clt doesnt think any niner should pull for those schools. we could be back in the sun belt and clt would still be a niner.

[QUOTE=cltniners;193471]clt will never pull for unc-ch or duke and questions your true niner loyality. is clt happy about going to the a-10? no, but clt doesnt think any niner should pull for those schools. we could be back in the sun belt and clt would still be a niner.[/QUOTE]

metro says he does not pull for UNC. metro said he understands why people do it now. metro says UNCC is a helpless cause, committed to mediocrity. People want to cheer for programs that at least put forth effort enough to prosper.

metro says cheering for 49er athletics is like cheering for Kyle Petty, just happy to be there.

Come on 2002,

You should know that there is plenty of talent in our region. You should also know that talented players don’t win football games on their own.

IMO our best asset will be our coach, if our coach wins games, talented players will follow.

Just to add, I am pretty damn sure Coastal Carolina competes for athletes with App st. but both programs are still Usually very good.

if there is one thing that is for sure, we screwed up big time 10 years ago not pursuing football like USF, and our priorities have been twisted for 2 decades with poor leadership. We have a huge amount of corp headquarters to cash in on (if someone were able). The core problem is that the leadership wants football to be an easy slam dunk (no careers on the line) before they act. The fact that we never have alum in charge is lethal too. All decisions are career decisions at UNCC instead of a little internal, gutty, alumn like, passionate decisions now and then.

people ask me all the time, “why have you disconnected from UNCC athletics”? the answer is apathy from our constant backstroke. I remember in the 90’s going to root against Denny Crum and UL, now we have Duquesne rolling into town. It will sink in with the most die hard of die hards eventually. I am to the point that I have no problem with a UNCC alum rooting for UNC or Duke. Our school is content on being average to below average and happy in the A10. Bigger and better achievment is not on the radar.

oh my gosh were the same person just different decades of graduting from UNC Charlotte.

Chapel Hill :moon:has a football team???

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