Drive by at night and you will find at least one cop sitting in their car in one of the parking lots around Martin.
I know people who tried to call for an escort using those blue lights and ended up walking home alone 45 minutes (and two calls) later.
THe thing i dont like is that it takes 3 cops to write a speeding ticket
Much of this is a result of many factors.
- The creation of what is now Uptown Charlotte, mainly the 4th Ward
They tore down thousands of public housing units and replaced them with a handful of Hope VI units in 4th Ward Place.
- NoDa’s gentrification
The area land values are rising and pushing out the lower income.
- Overabundance of apartments built in the University area
The # of apartments built extremely outweighed the demand. Also the prices of the apartments are suited for students, which is cheap.
- The original developers of the university area apartment complexes are no longer in control. They got their buck and bounced.
These developers took complete advantage of a poor Zoning Ordinance (not to say Charlotte is the only City with a poor ordinance, it is common place for multiple reason that are too long-winded to get into right now). Built shoddy constructions of apartments enticing to students and sold them off as soon as possible.
- Property managers have to make their money and that means renting to a broader range of incomes and accepting gov’t subsidies. (Section 8)
The main problem is they decided to take so many units away to redevelop 4th Ward, but had no plan on what to do with the people they displaced.
New Jersey has a good program, called a Workable Relocation Assistance Plan that is required with all redevelopment plans that displaces any residents or businesses (renters and home owners.)
It was the lack of foresight that has caused this by city leaders hell bent on making Uptown what it is today.
I am not saying Uptown Charlotte is bad, I love it, but the planning behind it all did not take everything into consideration and the University City area is paying for it now.
Charlotte is starting to turn me off. There are several things about it that bug me way too much. This urban sprawl bs. The horrible traffic. The horrible drivers which could be curbed by stiffer driving laws. The 10,000 ghetto ass used car sales lots surrounding the city. The way there are so many ghetto ass people around downtown. All the ghetto ass thug retards in the whole freakin city. The fact that they call downtown ‘uptown.’ The way they call City Center, ‘Center City.’ The way Charlotte seems to give a crap about its largest university. I’ve never spent much time in any other large US cities, but it also feels like Charlotte has a bad case of neauvorich(however that is spelled) people.
almost all of charlotte is new money. The city ignores everyone else. Development is getting a little better with many new developments incorporating retail, offices, and residential in one area, but by and large it is still sub divisions built with cul de sacs making effective transportation impossible. It’s unfortunate that the poverty has been driven toward the university. I’m honestly surprised I never see any beggers on campus. They love to hang around universities.
Where are these low income housing developments you speak of? The one’s that are by the university that is.
I do agree that city mainly foucses on the money areas. I recently bought a new townhome in Myers Park, and have had no problems with riffraff. But it’s a different story when I see the area around the university on my way to - shudder. Those apartments around it are especially bad, the city should outlaw vinyl once and for all.
[QUOTE=Colorado49er;183087]The campus rent a cops have never been very effective. That goes back to the 70’s when I was there.
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I beg your pardon. They did a great job of finding my car for me when I reported it stolen at 10:00 one night. They returned my phone call and told me they had found my car parked in the faculty parking lot.
Yes, I had been drinking… HEAVILY.
On a more serious note…
What can be done about the problem?
I wonder if it is possible for the school (and maybe with help from the state or city) to start buying some of the low income housing and start converting it to off-campus student housing.
The school can also put up a gate at ALL entrances and check IDs after a certain time at night. Combine this with a fence around campus, and it could keep some problem people out.
Better yet, let’s just round up all the criminals in Charlotte and ship 'em all off to Raleigh.
On a more serious note....What can be done about the problem?
The school can also put up a gate at ALL entrances and check IDs after a certain time at night. Combine this with a fence around campus, and it could keep some problem people out.
Im am strongly opposed to the fence idea. Campus is too big and a fence is just lame. It looks so nice not having some horrid fence around the entire campus. But more so, we should not let these punks scare us into doing all this. If we step up police presence on campus by a few, and add some cameras near certain spots, like the Belk Tower/Library area, I think we can stop or catch all these fools and avoid building a gigantic fence.
Having gates at the entrences could be a good idea at night, but I dont know. Who gets in? What if your friend from 1000 miles away finally makes it to visit you, but is not a Charlotte student and they cant contact you. What then? I think having the gates that close off all the entrances except for the front one work well.
Where are these low income housing developments you speak of? The one's that are by the university that is.
Right next to UWalk there is this real ghetto seeming place. The area of apartments surrounding UWalk has some ghetto activity. Somewhere around Faris Farms, behind the train tracks, there is a lot of ghettoness. And like someone was saying, these appartments around campus are getting quite ghetto themselves. Lots of non-college riff raff living there. The communities should be made student only. I dont know if these places are exactly “low income houseing” but they dont cost so much and have lots of hoodlums coming out of them.
[URL=http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15141607.htm]http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15141607.htm[/URL]
some of the boys may be as young as 8 years old. Something tells me they are headed towards a bright future of being a drain on the North Carolina economy for a long time. Where are the parents?
[URL=http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15141607.htm]http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15141607.htm[/URL]some of the boys may be as young as 8 years old. Something tells me they are headed towards a bright future of being a drain on the North Carolina economy for a long time. Where are the parents?
Anyone who sees kids like these on campus who are obviously not students should pick up their cell and call campus police/security.
that really ticked me off reading that this morning. If there really was some kind of patrol, they should of noticed them. Are you seriously telling me that between the library and the entrance in a span of 30 minutes, not one cop saw that?
All that they wrote about the cops doing routine patrosl is BS, and I included much of that in an email this morning.
Much of this is a result of many factors.
- The creation of what is now Uptown Charlotte, mainly the 4th Ward
They tore down thousands of public housing units and replaced them with a handful of Hope VI units in 4th Ward Place.
- NoDa’s gentrification
The area land values are rising and pushing out the lower income.
- Overabundance of apartments built in the University area
The # of apartments built extremely outweighed the demand. Also the prices of the apartments are suited for students, which is cheap.
- The original developers of the university area apartment complexes are no longer in control. They got their buck and bounced.
These developers took complete advantage of a poor Zoning Ordinance (not to say Charlotte is the only City with a poor ordinance, it is common place for multiple reason that are too long-winded to get into right now). Built shoddy constructions of apartments enticing to students and sold them off as soon as possible.
- Property managers have to make their money and that means renting to a broader range of incomes and accepting gov’t subsidies. (Section 8)
The main problem is they decided to take so many units away to redevelop 4th Ward, but had no plan on what to do with the people they displaced.
New Jersey has a good program, called a Workable Relocation Assistance Plan that is required with all redevelopment plans that displaces any residents or businesses (renters and home owners.)
It was the lack of foresight that has caused this by city leaders hell bent on making Uptown what it is today.
I am not saying Uptown Charlotte is bad, I love it, but the planning behind it all did not take everything into consideration and the University City area is paying for it now.
I agree. It’s happening in NoDa, Wilmore and Wesley Heights. They’re moving North, Southwest and East.
here is a plan:
Stop free housing. Stop grouping them all together where they can form gangs.
there is section 8 housing on Tryon near Remount road and everyday its just people sitting on their porch. If you get free housing you should at least be trying to get a job. This society is a joke, nobody needs free housing and there shouldnt be 8 year olds wandering through campus without a cop thinking/doing something about it.
[QUOTE=49or bust;183113]The horrible drivers which could be curbed by stiffer driving laws.[/QUOTE]
don’t let horrible drivers get you pissed… they are EVERYWHERE.
also its nouveaux riche. 
Here are some numbers from 2003 on Section 8 households and number of household members. The following census tracts are near the university. You can map them at [URL=http://www.census.gov]www.census.gov[/URL] to see where they are located.
Tract 55.07 has 66 section 8 households totaling 264 members
Tract 56.03 has 30 section 8 households totaling 133 members
Tract 56.05 has 73 section 8 households totaling 226 members
Tract 56.06 has 33 section 8 households totaling 146 members
For perspective, tract 53.03 (roughly Hidden Valley) has 115 section 8 households totaling 430 members.
Most, not all, section 8 households are single-parent families. Thus, there are a lot of kids around campus from very poor households. Time to put the Louisville Slugger back in the trunk.
They (CMPD and Campus Police) need to do something before
this: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15144582.htm
turns into
[QUOTE]three days since the mob set upon and pummeled Samuel McClain, a 50-year-old father of 12.[/QUOTE]
Father of 12? they must betheir own gang…
Seems like we could scare them off by saying the cincinnati b-ball team is coming to town, or maybe thats their idols or something. 8 year olds, seriously 8 year olds and the sad part is they might be packing. This gang culture is getting ridiculous look I don’t care if its poverty, MS13, no parents or gansta rap I think its just stupidity. This whole macho I’m gonna beat your ass mentality is cro-magnon, and the funny part is later in life most of them will recieve a beating of the ass. If any of these kids would look about 5 years down the road maybe they could see that no gang member becomes a success, and if they happen to make some money they get shot by another violent, greedy moron.
tru, when a youth is raised in a disadvantaged, poverty stricked neighborhood, chances of making it past 21 is only 50%
youth that has gang ties only 22%
22%! thats 1 in 5. Someone should tell those kids that outta the 10 of them who though they were badasses, only 2 of them will make it to the age of the kid they jumped.
But Im all for youth outreach. I think if a kid is guided right, and realizes the dangers of gang affiliation and realizes there is another way out of the ghetto, I think that child can be saved.
But when you have parents who indirectly endorse gang life, by teaching hatred or suspicion towards police, denying and lying to police that your kid does anything wrong, not growing up yourself and taking resposibility, and not working hard and getting out of the ghetto, the kids got no other choice.
Instead they should be told that not having the newest pair of Jordans now is ok, and that when your older and your a Lawyer who defends the disadvataged, you will be able to buy whatever you want. or if you think the police are corrupt, then grow up to be an officer and fix the problems.
And I know someone is gonna say something about how hard it is and how you cant get a job and how discrimmination affects the people living in the ghettos…
… my parents, infact most of my family, came from India with NOTHING. They did not even speak english.
Now all of us live in suburban homes, drive nice cars and all their kids are in college.
There is NO excuse.