College athlete compensation - NIL etc 💰

Problem is being a rarely playing kid at Chapel Hill still probably affords Young more money. In addition after a season like this one a P5 school can come take him by offering better endorsement opportunities.

I just don’t see how this doesn’t tilt things even further against most schools and really helps nobly the top echelon.

So 2 different issues here. College athletes being able to benefit financially (like their institution is currently doing) off of their NIL and the NCAA creating a system to disperse TV revenue and other funds a little more “fairly”.

I don’t think allowing players to benefit off of their NIL would tilt the playing field that much. Schools that get better players now would likely continue. And you only have so many scholarships to offer in any sport so you couldn’t hoard. This isn’t that hard of a fix and quiets the pay talk.

As for number 2, it would have to be some type of NCAA pool where the money is collected and then dispersed. I don’t think that would fly. Conferences would likely leave the NCAA.

In no shape, form or fashion would I support colleges or the NCAA paying athletes.

In any case, I have zero confidence NCAA can come up with a feasible solution to anything.

You don’t think UT going to one of their largest boosters and saying, "Hey in lieu of donations to the AD this year can you give all our basketball/football players a 250k no-show job instead? " might tilt the balance a bit? The P5s can afford to do this due to the size of the TV contract, most G5s will struggle.

I don’t know what the answer to this is but people who don’t think the above will happen if it becomes the wild wet in regards to NIL are deluding themselves, or maybe not as cut throat as I am in regards to college athletics. In effect you will have schools subsidizing through their donors players with no salary cap.

I don’t have much faith in the NCAA either but they almost have to be involved, and you open yourselves up to Title IX lawsuits if they are.

Certainly there will be those that abuse any system put into place. It’s happening now. Nothing will change much. It’s already the Wild West. And it’s clear the NCAA can’t regulate pee wee rec league football.

This just opens up many more possibilities for the rich to get richer in my opinion. It will benefit the athletes which is a good thing for the most part. What’s to stop Clemson from telling a sponsor that we will advertise for you all over our stadium for basically nothing if you endorse our top athletes. Or what’s stopping Nike from endorsing the entire roster at Duke or UNC with the understanding that the 4 and 5 stars will sign with them when they play professionally. And the proposed New York law calls for athletes to get 15% of revenue from ticket sales. If a 3 star isn’t good enough to get endorsements but can get 15% of our ticket sales or 15% of Clemson or UNC’s ticket sales where do you think he is going to go. Many of the people pushing for these changes are doing so for political gain or the ability to do what they have already been doing behind closed doors without the threat of NCAA violations. There has to be some governing body like the NBA or NFL has to run the system in a way that doesn’t allow an even larger monopoly on the system by the P5’s. The NCAA is not able to do this.

I don’t think the NBA or NFL governs endorsement contracts for their players. Nor should they.

And the NFL and NBA are both essentially monopolies. Same teams over and over.

They don’t govern endorsements but they do have a salary cap and share television revenue between teams. The gap in revenue earned from the top team in the NBA or NFL to the bottom team is no where near what it is in the NCAA. This is getting away from the name and likeness discussion but my point is that teams that already make millions from television contracts and have nationally televised games every week have a huge advantage when it comes to marketing their players for endorsements which is exactly what they will do. If we start talking about including revenue for ticket sales then we are at an even bigger disadvantage.

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I really don’t know how this works, but if we move to a “play sports and get compensated” model, do scholarships, room & board, FCOA payments all become imputed income? It seems like today that is all exempted because of special rules Congress has in place. Linking a person’s membership on a team to their opportunity to earn income makes basketball look more like a job. Asking student-athletes to start paying taxes on all of this would be a huge change. Maybe one of our accountants has thoughts on this.

This is a looming shit storm on the horizon that looks like it will obliterate programs like ours.

From what I have read is of the money they receive is based on employment as an athlete then tuition and everything becomes taxable.

clt says schools will give out cash rather than Jordan shoes

Correction to earlier AP piece - NCAA, ACC and Big 12 have spent $750,000 in their lobbying efforts seeking limits to athlete compensation from endorsements.

Piece on today’s Senate hearings on NIL.

If the P5’s would be the primary beneficiary, they sure aren’t looking like it.

Not surprised that the P5s want to maintain the status quo on anything monetary related.

Anyway, I didn’t know that Phil Dubois was a member of the NCAA Board of Directors as the C-USA rep. Also see that former UNCC administrator Denise Trauth is a board member as Texas State (Sun Belt) prez.

What I’m intrigued on is when my daughter gets to high school in 12 years, she might be able to sign a shoe/ apparel/ etc… deal and still be eligible for NCAA… that’s pretty cool. Another interesting thought is how are the Uni’s going to battle Adidas from sponsoring their top Fball/ Bball player when they’re a “Nike” school, “Top Player” will instagram, tweet, vine, youtube, Adidas and he’ll get paid on his likes followers, links, etc…

Team rules would enforce Sponsored product when traveling/ playing etc… but this is going to be sooooo crazy when it all gets opened up, pro’s retiring before 30 will become super common as sponsoring will work it’s way down to peewee leagues etc… this is exciting times! PS it’s been a minute since been on the site!

High school swimmer Regan Smith’s dilemma an excellent case study when she had to refuse bonus money (around $100,000) for breaking world records in order to preserve her college eligibility per current NCAA rules.

https://sports.yahoo.com/politicians-ncaa-payforplay-regan-smith-leaving-money-on-table-220319746.html