Duquesne post game

Our young players are inconsistent. But Twill has been really strong since mayfield went out.

What is it people expect from these guys? 20 ppg?

Since Mayfield’s dismissal, TWill’s stats:

11 ppg
5 rpg (1.4 OR)
1.8 assists
2.3 TO
1.2 Steals

45% shooting
62% FT Shooting
42% 3pt shooting.

Mayfield’s stats for reference:

11.7 ppg
3.6 rpg (.67 or)
2 assists
2.2 turnovers
1.2 steals

49% fg
70% ft
29% 3pt

When we got down by 17 I had to walk away from the tv. It was good to see our guys fight and come back, but the middle of that game was really discouraging to watch. I give Braswell props for scoring for us, but I feel like everyone is forgetting how poorly he played for the majority of this game. He brings absolutely ZERO presence in the paint. I saw him willingly let Duquesne players drive by him and make uncontested layups. He makes no effort to rebound the basketball. At least he can be a good passer when he isn’t throwing up bricks when double teamed. Dukes announcer’s reaction to his technical was priceless (“he got a T??..but he just made the basket??”).

We’re gonna need to play 10x better tomorrow if we want to beat SJU. Maybe the way we came back at the end can carry some momentum moving forward.

Braswell has to play better for us to win. He has had a disappointing senior season to say the least.

[quote=“BadDog, post:63, topic:27581”]When we got down by 17 I had to walk away from the tv. It was good to see our guys fight and come back, but the middle of that game was really discouraging to watch. I give Braswell props for scoring for us, but I feel like everyone is forgetting how poorly he played for the majority of this game. He brings absolutely ZERO presence in the paint. I saw him willingly let Duquesne players drive by him and make uncontested layups. He makes no effort to rebound the basketball. At least he can be a good passer when he isn’t throwing up bricks when double teamed. Dukes announcer’s reaction to his technical was priceless (“he got a T??..but he just made the basket??”).

We’re gonna need to play 10x better tomorrow if we want to beat SJU. Maybe the way we came back at the end can carry some momentum moving forward.[/quote]

Yup and again I say it blows my mind this team has been coming out so flat. This isn’t like a losing team with nothing to play for. They have been playing for their post season lives - first the NCAAs, then the NIT and now the conference tourny. There is NO reason to come out flat. The fact that being down 17 finally got them to nut up - well I am proud of them and Braz for doing it but it still concerns me how unmotivated we have been playing. You might be young and you might be developing but damn put forth some energy at the tip. Lack of motivation and energy is really showing up in our D.

I think the hole we got into in this game is on the coach. Poor defensive scheming. He changed it up and we made a big run.

We didn’t come out flat in this one, we were up 16-8. Duq’s adjustments lit us up. We also stayed in our zone for entirely too long.

I will be curious to see if we press any tomorrow.

we need HAVOC

[quote=“upperdeck, post:68, topic:27581”]we need wins[/quote]FTFY

[quote=“Powerbait, post:66, topic:27581”]I think the hole we got into in this game is on the coach. Poor defensive scheming. He changed it up and we made a big run.[/quote]I’m getting nervous. 2nd time in a week i’m agreeing with you pb.

[quote=“Powerbait, post:66, topic:27581”]I think the hole we got into in this game is on the coach. Poor defensive scheming. He changed it up and we made a big run.[/quote] The zone was just not a good strategy. Dukes are a team that shoot a lot of outside shots with almost zero inside presence. We seem to switch into it when Benkovic is in to hide his defense, and maybe some with Ingram as well. That said, I think it was the man-to-man that first started getting shredded, so Major might’ve been trying to find something else that might work better too.

The man-to-man is not just a lack of effort, though the players do seem to lack some intensity when playing it lately. It’s also guys getting confused about when to collapse and when to rotate over, so they get hesitant or else collapse to early. A decent team is going to be able to get a wide open 3 eventually almost every time down. Guys are also a little too worried about the fouls on the road, so they play soft on the drives (and in that Dayton game, they were calling light contact too, which our players seemed to over-adjust to and give up a bunch of layups).

I understand we don’t have shotblockers down low, but we’ve got to figure out a way to avoid this over-collapsing when they’re calling fouls, maybe shade in, but don’t collapse completely to reach for a steal? I don’t know, maybe there isn’t a good answer, but that’s why we’re getting killed so much on the perimeter. Full court press works pretty well when the opposing team doesn’t have ballhandlers, but St. Joe’s will probably have an answer for that (they came within seconds of beating VCU on the road). I’ll be honest, I’m really hoping we get some refs that let them play, and even give us a little homecooking. If they start whistling lots of fouls on drives, it’ll probably be a really long night.

[quote=“Powerbait, post:62, topic:27581”]Since Mayfield’s dismissal, TWill’s stats:

11 ppg
5 rpg (1.4 OR)
1.8 assists
2.3 TO
1.2 Steals

45% shooting
62% FT Shooting
42% 3pt shooting.

Mayfield’s stats for reference:

11.7 ppg
3.6 rpg (.67 or)
2 assists
2.2 turnovers
1.2 steals

49% fg
70% ft
29% 3pt[/quote]Somebody should show this to TWill. I think he would be surprised to find out that he is filling Mayfield’s shoe just fine.

[quote=“Nugget, post:72, topic:27581”][quote=“Powerbait, post:62, topic:27581”]Since Mayfield’s dismissal, TWill’s stats:

11 ppg
5 rpg (1.4 OR)
1.8 assists
2.3 TO
1.2 Steals

45% shooting
62% FT Shooting
42% 3pt shooting.

Mayfield’s stats for reference:

11.7 ppg
3.6 rpg (.67 or)
2 assists
2.2 turnovers
1.2 steals

49% fg
70% ft
29% 3pt[/quote]Somebody should show this to TWill. I think he would be surprised to find out that he is filling Mayfield’s shoe just fine.[/quote]

Yes. However, it should be noted that Mayfield was responsible for handling the ball much more than TWill is. Also, Mayfield would get to the basket on drives and the FT line more often.

That being said, after a tough stretch a number of weeks ago, TWill has played very well and I expect him to continue to improve into next season.

[quote=“Powerbait, post:62, topic:27581”]Since Mayfield’s dismissal, TWill’s stats:

11 ppg
5 rpg (1.4 OR)
1.8 assists
2.3 TO
1.2 Steals

45% shooting
62% FT Shooting
42% 3pt shooting.

Mayfield’s stats for reference:

11.7 ppg
3.6 rpg (.67 or)
2 assists
2.2 turnovers
1.2 steals

49% fg
70% ft
29% 3pt[/quote]Last 3 games for Twill, just under 16ppg and 8rpg.

[quote=“Charlotte2002, post:73, topic:27581”][quote=“Nugget, post:72, topic:27581”][quote=“Powerbait, post:62, topic:27581”]Since Mayfield’s dismissal, TWill’s stats:

11 ppg
5 rpg (1.4 OR)
1.8 assists
2.3 TO
1.2 Steals

45% shooting
62% FT Shooting
42% 3pt shooting.

Mayfield’s stats for reference:

11.7 ppg
3.6 rpg (.67 or)
2 assists
2.2 turnovers
1.2 steals

49% fg
70% ft
29% 3pt[/quote]Somebody should show this to TWill. I think he would be surprised to find out that he is filling Mayfield’s shoe just fine.[/quote]

Yes. However, it should be noted that Mayfield was responsible for handling the ball much more than TWill is. Also, Mayfield would get to the basket on drives and the FT line more often.

That being said, after a tough stretch a number of weeks ago, TWill has played very well and I expect him to continue to improve into next season.[/quote]

TWill has been handling the ball more with Mayfield out. Regardless, I hope people ease off of TWill and EVN. Yes, they both have flaws, but they both have a ton of upside. Mayfield was also at least two years older with more experience, both in games and in practice.

The fact that TWill can contribute at his level with that much less experience is promising and part of the reason I feel good about our future.

[quote=“Powerbait, post:75, topic:27581”][quote=“Charlotte2002, post:73, topic:27581”][quote=“Nugget, post:72, topic:27581”][quote=“Powerbait, post:62, topic:27581”]Since Mayfield’s dismissal, TWill’s stats:

11 ppg
5 rpg (1.4 OR)
1.8 assists
2.3 TO
1.2 Steals

45% shooting
62% FT Shooting
42% 3pt shooting.

Mayfield’s stats for reference:

11.7 ppg
3.6 rpg (.67 or)
2 assists
2.2 turnovers
1.2 steals

49% fg
70% ft
29% 3pt[/quote]Somebody should show this to TWill. I think he would be surprised to find out that he is filling Mayfield’s shoe just fine.[/quote]

Yes. However, it should be noted that Mayfield was responsible for handling the ball much more than TWill is. Also, Mayfield would get to the basket on drives and the FT line more often.

That being said, after a tough stretch a number of weeks ago, TWill has played very well and I expect him to continue to improve into next season.[/quote]

TWill has been handling the ball more with Mayfield out. Regardless, I hope people ease off of TWill and EVN. Yes, they both have flaws, but they both have a ton of upside. Mayfield was also at least two years older with more experience, both in games and in practice.

The fact that TWill can contribute at his level with that much less experience is promising and part of the reason I feel good about our future.[/quote]

Demario hardly played at UGA and then sat out a year. Twill played a good deal his first year and has played a good deal this year. I wouldn’t say there was a HUGE different in their game time. Biggest difference is Demario was older and had far more practice time.

DeMario had 887 minutes played last year.

TWill has played 1053 minutes total.

DeMario played more minutes this year than TWill did all of last year and he only played in 18 games.

Yes, TWill has gotten significant minutes this year, but he wasn’t playing much last year.

[quote=“Powerbait, post:62, topic:27581”]Since Mayfield’s dismissal, TWill’s stats:

11 ppg
5 rpg (1.4 OR)
1.8 assists
2.3 TO
1.2 Steals

45% shooting
62% FT Shooting
42% 3pt shooting.

Mayfield’s stats for reference:

11.7 ppg
3.6 rpg (.67 or)
2 assists
2.2 turnovers
1.2 steals

49% fg
70% ft
29% 3pt[/quote]

thanks for sharing PB. very revealing info

Twill playing much,much better than EVIC this year…He has to bring it all tomorrow for us to have a chance.

EVic has had some really great games and TWill has struggled for stretches. That’s just the growing pains of young players.

We, as a fan base, are used to having upperclassmen to cover for our freshmen/Sophomores. These guys are getting exposed night in and night out and their only hope is that Braswell is there to bail them out. Mayfield and JTT were nice anchors to have as well. It is a lot to ask of Braswell to shoulder the load of being the only upperclassman, but I would expect better production from him still.

TWill and EVic are getting their roles expanded and are getting used to it. TWill averaged 13 mpg last year and EVN had 17.

For comparison, Clayton is getting 22, Clark 18 and Ingram 24.

These guys are going to have a real season of playing together next year. Only Henry, Braswell and Mayfield had a real season of meaningful playing time going into this year. Next up was EVN. He played less than a half a game.

I like that we’re bringing players along at their pace, it is just hard sometimes to watch them go through their growing pains. This season isn’t over for us yet, we’re projected to be in the NIT right now, so I hope we get a lot more meaningful games this year. But, it is nice to finally have a base of solid players to build on and be excited about again. Just hate seeing our guys get crapped on for no reason.