Well then Iāll take comfort in our program at least being headed in the right direction. We were 10-21 last year with the exact same players. We are 6-2 so far this year and Lebo is recruiting and landing better players for the future. The Missiouri transfer thatās sitting out this year is already the best player on the team according to those that watch practice. We are also building a $15 million dollar practice facility and are paying Lebo 3 times what we paid our last coach, so we are certainly a lot more commited than ever before. If we are better than you I donāt see that changing for a while because the program as a whole is improving a lot right now.
Can someone explain why Jim Utter suddenly jumped into the shoutbox last night as soon as we fell behind and started making abnoxious commentss aimed at our team and our fans? He was nowhere to be found the first half of the game when we were winning or during the beginning of the second half but as soon as we fell behind he came from nowhere with his cheap shots. He immediately posted the score as soon as ECU took the lead and never let up until we took the lead again. Then he disappeared until ECU pulled out the win and then he would not shut up. Not only was he unprofessional, but he obviously knows almost nothing about basketball.
Correct me if Iām wrong but it sounds like you are not defending his actions.
We should have won that game. I think we would have if we had Spears to come off the bench and help relieve our starters. I thought we played as good as we have all year in the first half, even without Spears on the court.
I would never defend someone who spews so much venom toward our school or fanbase.
Got 2 things to sayā¦1)I previously had defended Utter,thought people were just sore about us sucking and laying it on him,but after being in the shoutbox after the gameā¦they were rightā¦he is a troll who was looking to just antagonize our players.
2)For the life of me I just canāt buy the "our players get gassed playing 25-30 minutes of a game.Iāve watched almost every game this year and weāve got guys playing 30+ minutes who are not gassedā¦and weāve got Phil who gets tired and starts slowly chugging back up court after 6=7 minutes.Iām not saying Phil isnāt playing wellā¦Iām just saying he has IN MY OPINION,never really been in good shape to play D-1 College Basketball.
Well then Iāll take comfort in our program at least being headed in the right direction. We were 10-21 last year with the exact same players. We are 6-2 so far this year and Lebo is recruiting and landing better players for the future. The Missiouri transfer thatās sitting out this year is already the best player on the team according to those that watch practice. We are also building a $15 million dollar practice facility and are paying Lebo 3 times what we paid our last coach, so we are certainly a lot more commited than ever before. If we are better than you I donāt see that changing for a while because the program as a whole is improving a lot right now.[/quote]Recruiting and landing who that is better?
Charlotte reject Shamarr Bowden? A no star Paris-Campbell Roberts? A no star Paul Stone that didnāt have any schools listed as recruiting him except ECU? (also only a 1 star with a 75 grade on ESPN)
Iām telling you now that Shamarr Bowden sucks. Dude will light it up 1 out of every 5 or 6 games, but will play no defense, will turn the ball over, and will make everyone else on your team worse by taking possessions and better shots away from them. Heās also a fucking headcase. If youāre taking our trash, then your program has serious problems.
Bowden may be a better player than Green, but Green is definitely a better person.
Disagree - Derrio is actually coachable and puts forth some effort on defense. Bowden is not coachable and doesnāt know what defense even is.
Disagree - Derrio is actually coachable and puts forth some effort on defense. Bowden is not coachable and doesnāt know what defense even is.[/quote]
Meh. Theyāre both bad. Bowden looked like he had more potential if heād listen to a coach.
Disagree - Derrio is actually coachable and puts forth some effort on defense. Bowden is not coachable and doesnāt know what defense even is.[/quote]
Meh. Theyāre both bad. Bowden looked like he had more potential if heād listen to a coach.[/quote]
I agree with thisā¦ Derrio is way better for the team psyche.
Plus, Derrio can play the 1 some, albeit a little suspect at times. If we had to depend on Bowden to play the 1 this year weād be in even deeper doodoo.
Derrio has lost/turnovered the ball when no one is guarding him multiple times this year.
[quote=āgamer, post:68, topic:24448ā][quote=ābarry49s, post:29, topic:24448ā]you may not like the quality of the bench players but it still doesnāt explain why we have tired players.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=201012010178
According to the box, we didnāt have a guy play over 33 minutes. Is 33 minutes asking too much at this point of the season?[/quote]
Good question. We had 3 players go over 30 min, and each one was playing less than their average # minutes. ECU had 5 players go over 30 minutes. Our 2 big guys went 25 and 28 minutes. I am not saying our guys werenāt fatigued, but they didnāt have to learn Majorās system to be in shape to play 2/3 of a basketball game by December.[/quote]
I noticed the same stat for players playing over 30 min. ECU had 4, not 5. But it is still a valid argument none the less.
Derrio has lost/turnovered the ball when no one is guarding him multiple times this year.[/quote]
I did say āsuspect at timesā. Bowden canāt play the 1 at all, IMO. Think Ian Andersen.
Recruiting and landing who that is better?Charlotte reject Shamarr Bowden?
A lot of good schools still wanted him. The interviews not up anymore on the draftreview.com but Bowden said he had offers from several Big East and SEC schools this fall before picking us. Miguel Paul also had a lot of of BCS offers even when he transfered from Missiouri last spring and was a solid contributor as a freshman on an Elite 8 team. We have an all conference PG and the people who have seen Paul at practice say heās already better. Both these guys Lebo brought in saw the court as freshman and are now older and more ready, and since we lose our backcourt this year and need players like this ready to step in. I think heās done a good job.
Of the other players heās signed so far Ralph Sampsonās son had offers from Seton Hall and St. Maryās and heās going to be a good one when he gaines a some weight. Torlack looks good too and was a solid contributor on the Serbian National team that won the European Championships. I like the upside ive seen from both so far this season.
You mentioned ESPN and Roberts Campbell was graded higher than Terrance Williams when they both commited and as far as Stone, I guess Lebo saw something he liked to have offered him this early. Heās didnāt have any offers but hes a 6-6 guard and must be worth a chance to sign him in the fall.
"Stone said Virginia Commonwealth, UNC-Wilmington, Florida State, Georgetown and Wake Forest expressed interest in him attending their universities, but none of those schools made the offer or attempt to recruit him like East Carolina did. "I went to one of the football games and the people just welcomed me with open arms and I just loved it,ā
Of course Shamarr is going to say he had BCS offers after he left here, but using a little common sense will tell you he didnāt.
Paris Roberts Campbell is rated as an 84 on ESPN, T Will is rated higher. He should still be a pretty good player for you guys.
As for Miguel Paulā¦
Weāll either way rivals listed UTEP as offering and reported a visit date so Iām sure thatās true. Tim Floyd recruits pretty good players (legally or illegally) and UTEP won our conference and was in the top 25 last year. It was a nice pickup.
Paris Roberts Campbell is rated as an 84 on ESPN, T Will is rated higher. He should still be a pretty good player for you guys.I don't like that site anyway but about two weeks ago he was graded 88 and a top 15 player in NC by them and Williams was an 87. He's from CLT. From what I've heard is he played with some really good players last year at United Faith I think and could be a little under the radar because he wasn't the focus of that offense. Glad we got him when we did.
As for Miguel Paul...
If thatās the worst thing heās ever done allās good.
[quote=āBigTimeNiner, post:59, topic:24448ā]I posted earlier in another thread and there wasnāt very much response about conditioning.
I donāt think this team is in good Physical condition to start the season. When I posted earlier, I was
including Spears in that conversation. The only guy that looked in good shape to me at the begining
was KJ. Did the other guys even work-out off -season?
Remember the days of Kelvin Price, even Plavich drastically changed for his senior season.
Maybe there was not an established program with oversight during the off-season but there
is not an excuse for being out-of-shape.[/quote]Thank you.
Bowden did have the off the bench center court stretching warm-up down to a science. Through his tats and no expression faceā¦ heās on his way to being too cool for school.
he just might be too cool for basketball.