[quote=“Niner National, post:18, topic:22375”]clt is correct. Duke’s engineering program is in the top 25 nationally. NC State’s is not. State graduates will tell you (and they actually believe) that they have a top 5 engineering program in the country. I had one try to tell me once that they were 2nd behind MIT. :)) :)) :)) :))
Duke however, is not much of a threat for your average student as it is prohibitively expensive for a lot of people and their program is much smaller than a school the size of Charlotte or State.[/quote]
While Duke is the higher ranked program, let us not look down our noses at NC State. While them pretending as if they are second is ridiculous, us pretending that their program isn’t excellent is equally so. From the US News rankings:
[quote=“NewNiner, post:21, topic:22375”]While Duke is the higher ranked program, let us not look down our noses at NC State. While them pretending as if they are second is ridiculous, us pretending that their program isn’t excellent is equally so. From the US News rankings:
Those numbers are pretty damn strong. We need to not have such an inferiority complex all of the time, they have a strong program and so do we.[/quote]
Thank you for posting this - it is important to give credit where credit is due.
[quote=“C49erMoose, post:23, topic:22375”][quote=“NewNiner, post:21, topic:22375”]While Duke is the higher ranked program, let us not look down our noses at NC State. While them pretending as if they are second is ridiculous, us pretending that their program isn’t excellent is equally so. From the US News rankings:
Those numbers are pretty damn strong. We need to not have such an inferiority complex all of the time, they have a strong program and so do we.[/quote]
Thank you for posting this - it is important to give credit where credit is due.[/quote]
[quote=“919R, post:24, topic:22375”][quote=“C49erMoose, post:23, topic:22375”][quote=“NewNiner, post:21, topic:22375”]While Duke is the higher ranked program, let us not look down our noses at NC State. While them pretending as if they are second is ridiculous, us pretending that their program isn’t excellent is equally so. From the US News rankings:
Those numbers are pretty damn strong. We need to not have such an inferiority complex all of the time, they have a strong program and so do we.[/quote]
Thank you for posting this - it is important to give credit where credit is due.[/quote]
Where are our rankings?[/quote]
While I didn’t have time to do a really thorough search, I turned up the following rankings from US News with a decent look through:
^agreed, I asked a recruiter from Duke Energy and they said they like to stick with local engineering students for the charlotte area because really a degree from charlotte is very similar to state. NC State just has a lot more money to spend on technology.
You lost me. Who said anything about us having an inferiority complex? Our engineering majors get good jobs just as easily as State grads. [/quote]
Which is exactly what I said- “they have a strong program and so do we”
My point was others’ need to put down their program to make us feel better about ourselves. Their program is strong, let’s not pretend it isn’t, ours is strong as well. There is no need to diminish their accomplishments to make ours look better.
bingo - rankings really don’t mean much of anything except to those who are at the top and those who are uninformed. They are based on things such as freshman retention rates, average SAT/ACT scores (which more and more schools are disregarding, see Wake Forest), etc. They miss out on a lot of different aspects of the university and the university experience. There is a lot of research in Higher Education that supports this claim. In my opinion, rankings can actually take away from the experience because the university’s focus is directed more at the rankings themselves (and staying in the top 25) than they are on the students and the student experience. It also often costs a lot of money to be a top 25 school, so funds may get redirected into “hot area’s” for the ranking system. Everyone wants to be in the top 25, but in order to get into the top 25, someone has to leave it.
And to further my point, I know enough students (including myself) who went on to get into “higher ranked” graduate schools, particularly in Engineering, with full rides. The likes of Purdue, Penn State, Arizona State, NCSU, etc. Though where you come from plays a role (i.e. is it ABET accredited), they didn’t stare too hard at the “highly ranked program” label.
Job market typically behaves the same. Locally taught students also have an easier opportunity to do internships and CO-OPS with those companies which often provide a direct outlet into jobs if the student choses to take it.
You lost me. Who said anything about us having an inferiority complex? Our engineering majors get good jobs just as easily as State grads. [/quote]
Which is exactly what I said- “they have a strong program and so do we”
My point was others’ need to put down their program to make us feel better about ourselves. Their program is strong, let’s not pretend it isn’t, ours is strong as well. There is no need to diminish their accomplishments to make ours look better.[/quote]
My apologies. I had the impression you said we had an inferiority complex all the time.
Charlotte has an outstanding engr school - really outstanding. I wish I could be young again to go to the EPIC.
Oh yeah. My brother, in-law a tax attorney in Winston and Notre Dame alumn, gets a chuckle out of watching his NCSU lawn guy mow his yard. So much for rankings.
[quote=“NinerFan, post:32, topic:22375”]Charlotte has an outstanding engr school - really outstanding. I wish I could be young again to go to the EPIC.
Oh yeah. My brother, in-law a tax attorney in Winston and Notre Dame alumn, gets a chuckle out of watching his NCSU lawn guy mow his yard. So much for rankings.[/quote]
This^
Just because someone gets a degree from NCSU doesn’t mean they are more capable for a job than someone from Charlotte. I was talking to a recruiter and he was saying the grads from charlotte are much harder workers than the higher up engr schools because they are too obsessed with their engr school rankings than applying for internships, lol.
The article does not mention EPIC, but we keep seeing energy firms put their HQs in Charlotte, and there always seems to be a connection to the University. Hopefully this will lead to a partnership.
[font=georgia][size=24px]Toshiba names CEO for new Charlotte energy firm
[/size][/font][size=15px]Toshiba has named Ali Azad as the first president and chief executive of newly-formed Toshiba America Energy Systems, to be based in Charlotte.[/size]
[quote=“get_gold78, post:33, topic:22375”][quote=“NinerFan, post:32, topic:22375”]Charlotte has an outstanding engr school - really outstanding. I wish I could be young again to go to the EPIC.
Oh yeah. My brother, in-law a tax attorney in Winston and Notre Dame alumn, gets a chuckle out of watching his NCSU lawn guy mow his yard. So much for rankings.[/quote]
This^
Just because someone gets a degree from NCSU doesn’t mean they are more capable for a job than someone from Charlotte. I was talking to a recruiter and he was saying the grads from charlotte are much harder workers than the higher up engr schools because they are too obsessed with their engr school rankings than applying for internships, lol.[/quote]
I have been working as an engineer for 15 years now, and I will put my Charlotte education against anyone. I have worked with people from just about every so called top engineering school in the country. 25% are pretty good all around, 25% are good with theory, but couldn’t change a car tire, and 50% were worthless piece of $hits that would get fired at McDonald’s.