Think about it like this, if he were a 6ā7" wing forward and he was balling out as a freshman, do you think he would have come to Charlotte?
He is going to take time to develop, but he has a high major body and he has the athleticism to play at that level, but he has to develop.
[quote=āPowerbait, post:19, topic:27066ā][quote=ācibik02, post:1, topic:27066ā]Clark is the stud of the freshman class. Heās strong in the paint and prob our closest thing to a CC3. Prob one of our most complete players. I can see him playing 20 min and avg 10+
Clayton could be great, just needs to work on handling the ball. Def impressed for him being a freshman.
Thorne might be the best FT shooting big man in a long time. Was disappointed though, thought Iād see post moves of some sort. But hopefully in a couple years heās a Phil jones type guy at least.
The āpotentialā of or young guys look promising. If you include Thorne as a freshman, this might be best freshman class in a long time.
Wish I could have seen Thompson play to see what he brings
Very sloppy 2nd half. Lots of dumb passes. Hopefully itās because of it being an exhibition and just trying pass more and playing more loose
Still not impressed by Nickerson. Too wild and clumsy with the ball. Iām prob being too hard on him but expect more from him
Ingram looks like he can score but needs to protect the ball more. He didnāt do weāll with pressure
Williams and Henry looked the same.
Benkovic needs a lot of work. Heās a Ian Anderson type but far from that level. Hopefully he just needs a couple years then he can be 10 min per game type 3 pt threat. Hope he surprises us.
Weāll see next Friday what our season might look like. Hard to tell against feefer and 3 guys on the bench that will see major minutes.
http://cone01nt.uncc.edu/statcrew/xlive.htm[/quote]
So, Clark is going to be as good as CC3 and thatās a good thing, but you hope Thorne can be a Phil Jones level player as if thatās just okay and Phil Jones was on an NBA pre-season rosterā¦[/quote]I feel like Phil was very under-appreciated here. He was a solid player by his senior year and it is a shame that he was not able to finish.
Watching Thorne last night actually reminded me quite a bit of freshman Phil. A big guy with questionable hands, but a great stroke.
As long as he shoots like he did last night from the FT line and can draw fouls, heāll see playing time.
It was just the tone of his post. Iāve always been a big PJ fan.
2 major differences in Thorne as a freshman compared to Phil, conditioning and athleticism.
Not sure I understand your post. I do think Clark will be better than CC3. My comparison was more towards being a powerful dunker and going up strong.
And I do hope Thorne is at least what Phil was for us. Ofcourse I wish Thorne turns into a beast down low but I think a lot of that is ājust how players are talent wise/instinctsā. For example, Clarkās handle and ability to go up strong with control isnāt something just anyone can learn imo. I havenāt seen enough of Thorne but I dont think saying I hope he is atleast as good as Phil is a bad thing at all. Or I guess you are saying that Phil was better than Iām making him out to be. Either way, Iām just glad it looks like we have a big guy that looks like he can play 10-20 minutes.
Letās hope grades are another difference as well.
Letās hope grades are another difference as well.[/quote]To Thornes credit, he was eligible first year, Phil wasnāt.
Yes, Phil Jones was a really great basketball player here.
[quote=āPowerbait, post:28, topic:27066ā]Yes, Phil Jones was a really great basketball player here.[/quote] He turned into a really good player. Fans never seemed to shake the disappointment of him not being an all-star center from the beginning after all the hype that followed him here. So even after he started to live up to the hype to some degree, people just kept looking for ways he was disappointing.
Itās a frustrating aspect of modern fans to me. Very little patience for guys to develop into what weād hoped for them when they agreed to come here. Hope the current young guys donāt get similar labels, but the pattern with Nickerson looks very similar to me.
[quote=ā9erken, post:29, topic:27066ā][quote=āPowerbait, post:28, topic:27066ā]Yes, Phil Jones was a really great basketball player here.[/quote] He turned into a really good player. Fans never seemed to shake the disappointment of him not being an all-star center from the beginning after all the hype that followed him here. So even after he started to live up to the hype to some degree, people just kept looking for ways he was disappointing.
Itās a frustrating aspect of modern fans to me. Very little patience for guys to develop into what weād hoped for them when they agreed to come here. Hope the current young guys donāt get similar labels, but the pattern with Nickerson looks very similar to me.[/quote]
whenever i think of Phil, i always remember him taking the pass from Green and banking it in with the seconds clicking down against Tenn at Bobcats arena.
exactly. Jones was a subpar athlete. Mike impressed me with how fast he is getting down the floor as a big man.
[quote=āPowerbait, post:19, topic:27066ā][quote=ācibik02, post:1, topic:27066ā]Clark is the stud of the freshman class. Heās strong in the paint and prob our closest thing to a CC3. Prob one of our most complete players. I can see him playing 20 min and avg 10+
Clayton could be great, just needs to work on handling the ball. Def impressed for him being a freshman.
Thorne might be the best FT shooting big man in a long time. Was disappointed though, thought Iād see post moves of some sort. But hopefully in a couple years heās a Phil jones type guy at least.
The āpotentialā of or young guys look promising. If you include Thorne as a freshman, this might be best freshman class in a long time.
Wish I could have seen Thompson play to see what he brings
Very sloppy 2nd half. Lots of dumb passes. Hopefully itās because of it being an exhibition and just trying pass more and playing more loose
Still not impressed by Nickerson. Too wild and clumsy with the ball. Iām prob being too hard on him but expect more from him
Ingram looks like he can score but needs to protect the ball more. He didnāt do weāll with pressure
Williams and Henry looked the same.
Benkovic needs a lot of work. Heās a Ian Anderson type but far from that level. Hopefully he just needs a couple years then he can be 10 min per game type 3 pt threat. Hope he surprises us.
Weāll see next Friday what our season might look like. Hard to tell against feefer and 3 guys on the bench that will see major minutes.
http://cone01nt.uncc.edu/statcrew/xlive.htm[/quote]
So, Clark is going to be as good as CC3 and thatās a good thing, but you hope Thorne can be a Phil Jones level player as if thatās just okay and Phil Jones was on an NBA pre-season rosterā¦[/quote]
low expectations set there. i think clark will be better than cc3ā¦a lot better i liked coley but he was not a great player. lots of things that clark does that coley does not. who is to say thorn cannot be better than phil and make the nba?
I liked what I saw from Clark last night but to say he is one of our most complete players??
The guy didnāt even take a shot outside of 4 feet.
Clark > Coley. Just as athletic, stronger, better handles, finishes with contact and heās here 4 years instead of 2.
[quote=ācdsniner, post:33, topic:27066ā]I liked what I saw from Clark last night but to say he is one of our most complete players??
The guy didnāt even take a shot outside of 4 feet.[/quote]
from what i saw in 1 exhibition game, he looked like one of them yes. Kinda like a Mayfield. The point I was trying to make was, the way he moves with the ball he appears to be at a higher level than most on our team. I know this is after I saw him play against feefer and weāll soon see what he can do, but last night, he looked like a guy that needs to be playing 30+ min for us.
my comparison of Clark to CC3 was the ability to finish at the rim with force. Yes, I think Clark will be way better in CC3ā¦ but maybe not in dunking ability. Letās see if Clark tea bags anyone.
Can someone rush the tape over to ECU so they can see what it takes to beat a DII opponent? They play a few of those this year and I recall them struggling against them last season.
I hope he is better than CC3. I would love for Thorne to be at Jonesā level.
Before you guys cream yourself over Thorneās FT shooting in the games showing on Maxprep he was 37-66 for 56% from the line in high school. Could have very well been one of those nights in a good way where they actually went in.
Or just maybe he spent an entire year on the bench practicing? FTs arenāt tough - you just have to practice them.