Yeah, in an earlier interview, Hill was saying people want to fund the big sexy items, and zero dollars are left over to fund the rest of the plan. Getting things mostly taken care of before releasing to the filthy casuals means the available dollars are going where theyâre most needed to complete the project.
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We did 11700 in 2018 even with the Fordham and ODU weather games
We did around 12300 last season even with the Marshall weather game.
I think if we can have a season without an extreme weather situation, we would average a little below 13,000
BINGO! We have a winner
clt says we had serious issues with tickets scanned.
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Iâve heard mixed responses on this topicâŚdo we count tickets scanned or tickets sold. Big difference.
I think we should definitely go with the folks who think itâs a good idea to size the stadium based on our lowest attendance #s during years we didnât make a bowl and/or didnât even play an FBS schedule. Or even based upon a season where we started 2-5 and didnât have a big draw in state opponent on the home schedule. Brilliant!
Itâs no wonder we are where we are as a program. Feel sorry for Hill having to work past this type of thinking.
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Definitely need to expand but I wouldnât want us to go beyond 30k capacity and that may be a little high honestly.
25k is the sweet spot. If another expansion needs to happen in 15 years, great.
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Iâve heard Hill does arseâs in seats.
I had us with about 13500 seats sold for Marshall. Announced was 10000.
A key part with size is making sure we fit in with those we want to be peers. All but 3 current CUSA schools are over 30 and all but 3 AAC schools are over 40 and all are over 30.
This isnât an easy decision on size.
I donât agree with that as long as non butts were still paid tickets
If youâre not even going to try to be in the top 100 stadiums in college football by size, why bother expanding at all? Save the money and buy the kids platinum plated fixtures in the Field House. That would be a more effective recruiting tool than a sub-100th sized stadium.
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Id counter with size doesnt mean shit if you cant come close to filling it at least every now and then. It just looks sad. That is why this is such a huge decision on the ADâs part. I am really on the 28-30 seats side and then a couple more thousand in SRO and knowing we can put temps in endzone if we really need them to me is better than going too big and having an empty stadium for most games.
Those that think we just need to go really big didnt go to Tyvola to watch the basketball team play in the early 90s. It sucked. If we go north of 32k, given the overall national attendance trends and our current attendance - I fear it would just set us up for poor atmosphere for nearly every game. If we go north of 30 the AAC invite had better be all but done.
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CONFERENCE AVG. ATTENDANCE (2018) CHANGE (FROM 2017) NOTE
SEC
74,185
-1.2 percent
Lowest since 2003
Big Ten
65,365
-1.3 percent
Lowest since 1993
Big 12
56,490
-0.6 percent
Lowest since 2003
ACC
48,609
+0.3 percent
Pac-12
46,588
-6.1 percent
Lowest since 1982
AAC
28,902
+0.8 percent
MWC
23,862
-4.4 percent
Lowest in history
C-USA
18,874
-1.9 percent
Lowest in history
Sun Belt
17,396
-2.5 percent
Lowest since 2007
MAC
15,532
+0.9 percent
You all but confirmed though with the numbers that if we want to move up we have to be north of at least 30k in order to be lower end of the AAC.
I donât see us doing 3 stadium builds (initial, to 30k, over 30k) in less than 2 decades. If we donât build it to at least mid-grade AAC standards NOW then weâll probably have issues with AAC membership being offered to us with the current AAC setup.
I think you have to do two things when it comes to stadium renovation. You have to do something about sitting on concrete or hard metal flat seats. You have to look at premium style seats and a premium experience. Keeping it in the 30k area is fine if all 30k seats provide the best experience possible. You have to set yourself apart from other entertainment venues and experiences.
The experience could include dedicated wait staff in certain sections. I loved the Braves and Hurricanes games where we had a dedicated server with a credit card reader. We also bought twice as much stuff. Keep bringing the beer right? I donât even remember who the Braves played or if they won or lost.
I think the sound experience has to be good. The Clemson DJ was wonderful. These guys need to pull out all of the stops on this to make sure that when people go to the stadium it is something that they talk about even if the team sucks.
The DJ that Healy hired for the locker room was at practice on Saturday. I wonder if that will carry over to the games this year. I do not recall seeing the DJ on the filed at practice last spring.
I dont disagree - if AAC has given us the greenlight by all means lets meet what we need to be there. If we are doing this in HOPES of the AAC invite we need to cautious.
I was told we were 2 votes shy of AAC invite by a person in media. No idea how legit that is. But if stadium size was the hangup, then lets go.
I just dont want us to mortgage the atmosphere we could build by going way too big. SROs and temps can take us past 35kif the need arises.
â2 votes shyâ when?
Late last fall - I assume those arenât official votes, those are if we were to vote today kinda thing.
| YEAR | AVG. FBS ATTENDANCE | YEAR | AVG. FBS ATTENDANCE |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 46,971 | 2014 | 44,603 |
| 2009 | 46,284 | 2015 | 43,933 |
| 2010 | 46,632 | 2016 | 43,612 |
| 2011 | 46,074 | 2017 | 42,203 |
| 2012 | 45,440 | 2018 | 41,856 |
| 2013 | 45,671 |