That will make it more affordable for people who get in quick.
What I’d like to see is someone do a cost comparison between the Volt and the Camery Hybrid as it relates to mileage. 40 miles on battery and 300 on gas vs. the 578 MPG on average you get with the Camery Hybrid. I’d like to know the actual savings involved.
Pictures:
http://blog.autoworld.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/volt2.jpg
http://blog.autoworld.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/volt3.jpg
http://blog.autoworld.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/volt4.jpg
http://blog.autoworld.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/volt5.jpg
Yeah, if you’re going to shut down at 100 miles, you’re screwed in the public market.
One is made by Canadians? Uh-Oh! Will that turn you into Mandeep & Job? :o
That will make it more affordable for people who get in quick.
What I’d like to see is someone do a cost comparison between the Volt and the Camery Hybrid as it relates to mileage. 40 miles on battery and 300 on gas vs. the 578 MPG on average you get with the Camery Hybrid. I’d like to know the actual savings involved.[/quote]Where are you getting 578 MPG from? The Camry’s MPG is actually pretty mediocre for a hybrid. If they are advertising 500+ for a plug-in version of the Camry, it will only average that on short city trips only. Once you get it up to highway speeds it will fall back into the 40’s. Anything non plug-in won’t get close to that city or highway.
If that is how they are calculating it for the Camry, then the Volt is capable of over 600 MPG, but it is largely bullshit because nobody drives like they do in those trials.
Ford recently did a test on a stock room Ford Fusion hybrid. They were able to drive 1447 miles on a single tank of gas on real streets and highways. They used extreme driving techniques though which are dangerous and unrealistic for most drivers.
[quote=“stonecoldken, post:23, topic:23642”]Yeah, if you’re going to shut down at 100 miles, you’re screwed in the public market.
One is made by Canadians? Uh-Oh! Will that turn you into Mandeep & JFelt? :o[/quote]Fixed. I don’t think Job is from up there. Could be wrong…
[quote=“ChevEE, post:25, topic:23642”][quote=“stonecoldken, post:23, topic:23642”]Yeah, if you’re going to shut down at 100 miles, you’re screwed in the public market.
One is made by Canadians? Uh-Oh! Will that turn you into Mandeep & JFelt? :o[/quote]Fixed. I don’t think Job is from up there. Could be wrong…[/quote]
Job is Canadian as well.
Porche to produce plug in electric/gas hybrid. Gonna be a little more expensive than the Volt though.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/28/autos/porsche_hybrid/index.htm
The car is supposed to have 500 hp V8 engine and be among the most expensive Porche ever created.
That will make it more affordable for people who get in quick.
What I’d like to see is someone do a cost comparison between the Volt and the Camery Hybrid as it relates to mileage. 40 miles on battery and 300 on gas vs. the 578 MPG on average you get with the Camery Hybrid. I’d like to know the actual savings involved.[/quote]Where are you getting 578 MPG from? The Camry’s MPG is actually pretty mediocre for a hybrid. If they are advertising 500+ for a plug-in version of the Camry, it will only average that on short city trips only. Once you get it up to highway speeds it will fall back into the 40’s. Anything non plug-in won’t get close to that city or highway.
If that is how they are calculating it for the Camry, then the Volt is capable of over 600 MPG, but it is largely bullshit because nobody drives like they do in those trials.
Ford recently did a test on a stock room Ford Fusion hybrid. They were able to drive 1447 miles on a single tank of gas on real streets and highways. They used extreme driving techniques though which are dangerous and unrealistic for most drivers.[/quote]
Sorry, I mistyped. You can go, on average, 578 miles on a tank of gas in the Camry Hybrid. Basically I’d like to see a comparison of that vs. the Volt.
That will make it more affordable for people who get in quick.
What I’d like to see is someone do a cost comparison between the Volt and the Camery Hybrid as it relates to mileage. 40 miles on battery and 300 on gas vs. the 578 MPG on average you get with the Camery Hybrid. I’d like to know the actual savings involved.[/quote]Where are you getting 578 MPG from? The Camry’s MPG is actually pretty mediocre for a hybrid. If they are advertising 500+ for a plug-in version of the Camry, it will only average that on short city trips only. Once you get it up to highway speeds it will fall back into the 40’s. Anything non plug-in won’t get close to that city or highway.
If that is how they are calculating it for the Camry, then the Volt is capable of over 600 MPG, but it is largely bullshit because nobody drives like they do in those trials.
Ford recently did a test on a stock room Ford Fusion hybrid. They were able to drive 1447 miles on a single tank of gas on real streets and highways. They used extreme driving techniques though which are dangerous and unrealistic for most drivers.[/quote]
Sorry, I mistyped. You can go, on average, 578 miles on a tank of gas in the Camry Hybrid. Basically I’d like to see a comparison of that vs. the Volt.[/quote]
It’s gonna be 340 miles. 300 + 40.
With fully charged batteries, enough electrical energy will be stored to power the Volt up to 40 miles (64 km), a distance longer than the daily [url=http://ninernation.net/wiki/Commuting]commute[/url] for 75% of [url=http://ninernation.net/wiki/United_States]Americans[/url],[sup][5][/sup] whose average commute is 33 miles (53 km).[sup][6][/sup] After 40 miles (64 km), a small [url=http://ninernation.net/wiki/Straight-4]4-cylinder[/url] gasoline [url=http://ninernation.net/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine]internal combustion engine[/url] creates electricity on-board using a 53 kW (71 hp) [url=http://ninernation.net/wiki/Electrical_generator]generator[/url] to extend the Volt's range to more than 300 miles (483 km).[sup][7][/sup][sup][8][/sup]Once the Volt’s battery has discharged to the estimated 30% lower State of Charge (SoC) limit, the engine starts and supplies power to the electric motor to continue driving the car and maintains the battery charge at 30%.[sup][52][/sup] The Volt’s range-extending gasoline engine is expected to get approximately 50 mpg[sub]-US[/sub] (4.7 L/100 km; 60 mpg[sub]-imp[/sub]) on the city cycle of the EPA’s test while operating in this Charge Sustaining (CS) mode.[citation needed]
Based on those numbers, it suggests that the Volt is going to have a tiny 6 Gal gas tank (which makes sense since the original model had twin 6 gallon tanks for a 600 mile range - http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/03/the-chevy-volt-fuel-tank-will-be-sized-to-deliver-300-miles-of-gas-range/ - however Edmunds thinks its an 8 gallon tank - http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/volt/2011/2011-chevy-volt-eight-gallon-fuel-tank-assists-340-mpg-range.html). The Toyota Camry Hybrid has a 17.2 gallon tank (normal camry is 18.5 but the battery takes up some room).
Any current hyrbid will likely have more overall range than the Volt, but the Volt will cost a helluva lot less to operate in terms of fuel.
I guess what I mean is this. Fully fueled you have 40 miles on battery, 300 on gas. Theoretically, if you just commute to work and home in a given day, you may never touch your gas. Then you just recharge for the $1.50 they say on you power bill and you start the next day. It seems to me if you just stick close to home all week you could easily go 5 to 6 days without ever touching the Volt’s gas. It’s a safe bet you’ll have to recharge every day, so in a given month you’re looking at $45 extra dollars on your electric bill.
I’m curious if you’re a 100 mile a day driver for example, which you come out better with per fill up. The Camry hybrid with it’s 17 gallon tank and battery or the Volt’s 6 to 9 gallon (I’ve read both) and 40 miles on the battery at a 1.50 a day.
You guys know you can drive further than 340 miles, right? You just have to fill the gas tank up again…
The gasoline motor (essentially just a generator) will continue to create electricity which will be transferred to the electric motors and excess power will be stored in the batteries. MPG will be in line with a hybrid of today if you never recharge the battery.
Straight from the official website:
What happens if I never charge the battery?
You’ll probably spend more money on gas than you need to, but Volt will run just fine. Just remember that you’ll only get the full benefits of owning a Volt if you charge it routinely.
[quote=“J Felt, post:26, topic:23642”][quote=“ChevEE, post:25, topic:23642”][quote=“stonecoldken, post:23, topic:23642”]Yeah, if you’re going to shut down at 100 miles, you’re screwed in the public market.
One is made by Canadians? Uh-Oh! Will that turn you into Mandeep & JFelt? :o[/quote]Fixed. I don’t think Job is from up there. Could be wrong…[/quote]
Job is Canadian as well.[/quote]What??? Some of the best posters on this site a from the Canadia?!? I guess I can deal with it since my car is from there too…
Holy Schlitz! (Malt Liquor Bull) that is a nice Porsche.
Anyone buy the volt? Anybody’s catch fire?
what was the point in bumping this? You don’t post a thread every time normal cars catch on fire. I’ve seen at least a dozen gasoline cars burning beside the road in my lifetime, but those don’t make headlines.
Funny. I heard electric cars were not good for keeping you warm until now.
clt bets that tom hanks drives a leaf.
[quote=“cltniners, post:37, topic:23642”]clt bets that tom hanks drives a leaf.[/quote] …to see a play at Wright State, home of the arts!
Ha.
7,671 Chevy Volts were sold. All are being recalled now.
Your tax dollars at work.
