Theyāre prepping him to transfer so Riley can come here.[/quote]
With us now where we are at QB, has anyone in the media questioned Lambert why he did not consider Riley joining the team last off-season? Would he even address it???[/quote]
he canāt mention players by name who are not on his team or signed to play for the team.
[quote=āearlyniner, post:15, topic:29916ā]huuuumh! if judy were doing her job properly, there would be at least 49 regular posters who had everything, donāt you think?
letās fire her, why donāt we!
the best example is riley ferguson! exactly WHY donāt we know exactly why he is not our starting QB?
we [move]need[/move] that information. and furthermore, we deserve it![/quote]
Seriously? I hope this was sarcastic because itās the dumbest thing Iāve read in a while. You donāt deserve info on a player that is not on the roster, period. Heās not here so get over it.
And not to mention, you could put Aaron Rodgers in at QB and we are still a long way off from competing in some of these games. We are a team comprised of FCS level talent trying to play FBS level football and itās going to be painful until the talent increases and the young guys develop.
With yesterdayās game:
[table][tr][td]NAME[/td][td][right]CMP[/right][/td][td][right]ATT[/right][/td][td][right]YDS[/right][/td][td][right]CMP%[/right][/td][td][right]YDS/A[/right][/td][td][right]TD[/right][/td][td][right]INT[/right][/td][td][right]RAT[/right][/td][/tr][tr][td]Lee McNeill[/td][td][right]61[/right][/td][td][right]124[/right][/td][td][right]559[/right][/td][td][right]49.2[/right][/td][td][right]4.51[/right][/td][td][right]0[/right][/td][td][right]9[/right][/td][td][right]72.5[/right][/td][/tr][tr][td]Matt Johnson[/td][td][right]35[/right][/td][td][right]65[/right][/td][td][right]526[/right][/td][td][right]53.8[/right][/td][td][right]8.09[/right][/td][td][right]3[/right][/td][td][right]7[/right][/td][td][right]115.5[/right][/td][/tr][tr][td]Brooks Barden[/td][td][right]16[/right][/td][td][right]32[/right][/td][td][right]111[/right][/td][td][right]50.0[/right][/td][td][right]3.47[/right][/td][td][right]1[/right][/td][td][right]1[/right][/td][td][right]83.2[/right][/td][/tr][tr][td]Totals[/td][td][right]112[/right][/td][td][right]221[/right][/td][td][right]1196[/right][/td][td][right]50.7[/right][/td][td][right]5.41[/right][/td][td][right]4[/right][/td][td][right]17[/right][/td][td][right]86.7[/right][/td][/tr][/table]
[quote=āscollie41, post:22, topic:29916ā][quote=āearlyniner, post:15, topic:29916ā]huuuumh! if judy were doing her job properly, there would be at least 49 regular posters who had everything, donāt you think?
letās fire her, why donāt we!
the best example is riley ferguson! exactly WHY donāt we know exactly why he is not our starting QB?
we [move]need[/move] that information. and furthermore, we deserve it![/quote]
Seriously? I hope this was sarcastic because itās the dumbest thing Iāve read in a while. You donāt deserve info on a player that is not on the roster, period. Heās not here so get over it.
And not to mention, you could put Aaron Rodgers in at QB and we are still a long way off from competing in some of these games. We are a team comprised of FCS level talent trying to play FBS level football and itās going to be painful until the talent increases and the young guys develop.[/quote] I think he was mocking some other posters, but Earlyās too polite to say that. Thatās how I took his post, anyway.
Theyāre prepping him to transfer so Riley can come here.[/quote]
With us now where we are at QB, has anyone in the media questioned Lambert why he did not consider Riley joining the team last off-season? Would he even address it???[/quote]
he canāt mention players by name who are not on his team or signed to play for the team.[/quote] I doubt there is any ālegalā reason he could not comment on why Riley isnāt here. It would be stupid to do so, if thatās what you meant by ācanātā.
Allegedly, (because I damned sure didnāt read his book) Roy Williams threw some recruit who declined to come to UNC_CHeat under the bus in his epic tome āHard Workā.
Lambert isnāt teflon coated nor classless enough to do that.
4ever. you are correct. at least about the āmockingā. perhaps not so much the polite, tho i do try.
Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests
[quote=āRuckus42, post:27, topic:29916ā]Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests[/quote]
Obviously he has baggage we donāt want to carry. Get over it and move on. Believe it, qb is NOT our only problem. It may be halfway down the list.
[quote=ā49er1, post:28, topic:29916ā][quote=āRuckus42, post:27, topic:29916ā]Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests[/quote]
Obviously he has baggage we donāt want to carry. Get over it and move on. Believe it, qb is NOT our only problem. It may be halfway down the list.[/quote]
I was with you until that last part. I donāt think you can name 3 things needed more than better quarterback play.
Our starting QB has the worst rating in FBS: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/order/false
That 72 isnāt to be confused with QBR. His raw QBR is a 9.2ā¦ Matt āthe human turnoverā johnson has a raw QBR that is almost 5x higher!
But letās be honest, 42 isnāt getting it done either.
Iām not arguing we donāt have other issues, but QB is by far the biggest by a mile.
[quote=āninerID, post:29, topic:29916ā][quote=ā49er1, post:28, topic:29916ā][quote=āRuckus42, post:27, topic:29916ā]Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests[/quote]
Obviously he has baggage we donāt want to carry. Get over it and move on. Believe it, qb is NOT our only problem. It may be halfway down the list.[/quote]
I was with you until that last part. I donāt think you can name 3 things needed more than better quarterback play.
Our starting QB has the worst rating in FBS: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/order/false
That 72 isnāt to be confused with QBR. His raw QBR is a 9.2ā¦ Matt āthe human turnoverā johnson has a raw QBR that is almost 5x higher!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/551919/matt-johnson
But letās be honest, 42 isnāt getting it done either.
Iām not arguing we donāt have other issues, but QB is by far the biggest by a mile.[/quote]Look no farther than ODU if you want to see the difference a great QB makes. It can be the difference between being respectable and being one of the worst teams in football.
[quote=āNiner National, post:30, topic:29916ā][quote=āninerID, post:29, topic:29916ā][quote=ā49er1, post:28, topic:29916ā][quote=āRuckus42, post:27, topic:29916ā]Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests[/quote]
Obviously he has baggage we donāt want to carry. Get over it and move on. Believe it, qb is NOT our only problem. It may be halfway down the list.[/quote]
I was with you until that last part. I donāt think you can name 3 things needed more than better quarterback play.
Our starting QB has the worst rating in FBS: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/order/false
That 72 isnāt to be confused with QBR. His raw QBR is a 9.2ā¦ Matt āthe human turnoverā johnson has a raw QBR that is almost 5x higher!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/551919/matt-johnson
But letās be honest, 42 isnāt getting it done either.
Iām not arguing we donāt have other issues, but QB is by far the biggest by a mile.[/quote]Look no farther than ODU if you want to see the difference a great QB makes. It can be the difference between being respectable and being one of the worst teams in football.[/quote]
ODUās qb is better than anything we have but he isnāt great by any stretch.
[quote=āJaMiNNiNeR, post:31, topic:29916ā][quote=āNiner National, post:30, topic:29916ā][quote=āninerID, post:29, topic:29916ā][quote=ā49er1, post:28, topic:29916ā][quote=āRuckus42, post:27, topic:29916ā]Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests[/quote]
Obviously he has baggage we donāt want to carry. Get over it and move on. Believe it, qb is NOT our only problem. It may be halfway down the list.[/quote]
I was with you until that last part. I donāt think you can name 3 things needed more than better quarterback play.
Our starting QB has the worst rating in FBS: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/order/false
That 72 isnāt to be confused with QBR. His raw QBR is a 9.2ā¦ Matt āthe human turnoverā johnson has a raw QBR that is almost 5x higher!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/551919/matt-johnson
But letās be honest, 42 isnāt getting it done either.
Iām not arguing we donāt have other issues, but QB is by far the biggest by a mile.[/quote]Look no farther than ODU if you want to see the difference a great QB makes. It can be the difference between being respectable and being one of the worst teams in football.[/quote]
ODUās qb is better than anything we have but he isnāt great by any stretch.[/quote]I meant their QB last year. We see how much worse they are now that he is gone. Theyāre just as bad as we are. Last year, they were a decent team, all because they had an NFL caliber QB on their roster.
[quote=āninerID, post:29, topic:29916ā][quote=ā49er1, post:28, topic:29916ā][quote=āRuckus42, post:27, topic:29916ā]Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests[/quote]
Obviously he has baggage we donāt want to carry. Get over it and move on. Believe it, qb is NOT our only problem. It may be halfway down the list.[/quote]
I was with you until that last part. I donāt think you can name 3 things needed more than better quarterback play.
Our starting QB has the worst rating in FBS: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/order/false
That 72 isnāt to be confused with QBR. His raw QBR is a 9.2ā¦ Matt āthe human turnoverā johnson has a raw QBR that is almost 5x higher!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/551919/matt-johnson
But letās be honest, 42 isnāt getting it done either.
Iām not arguing we donāt have other issues, but QB is by far the biggest by a mile.[/quote]
[quote=ā49er1, post:33, topic:29916ā][quote=āninerID, post:29, topic:29916ā][quote=ā49er1, post:28, topic:29916ā][quote=āRuckus42, post:27, topic:29916ā]Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests[/quote]
Obviously he has baggage we donāt want to carry. Get over it and move on. Believe it, qb is NOT our only problem. It may be halfway down the list.[/quote]
I was with you until that last part. I donāt think you can name 3 things needed more than better quarterback play.
Our starting QB has the worst rating in FBS: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/order/false
That 72 isnāt to be confused with QBR. His raw QBR is a 9.2ā¦ Matt āthe human turnoverā johnson has a raw QBR that is almost 5x higher!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/551919/matt-johnson
But letās be honest, 42 isnāt getting it done either.
Iām not arguing we donāt have other issues, but QB is by far the biggest by a mile.[/quote]
Our defense has been decent this year, so I donāt really know how you can put that above the most important position on offense. Our defense only starts sucking after the O has hung them out to dry time after time after time.
College football is an offensive game, I wouldnāt get my hopes up for a truly elite defense. Best chance to compete is to have an offense that is capable of outscoring the opponent. There simply isnāt that much defensive talent out there and the SEC sucks up a huge chunk of it.
We punt at 39.3 per game. If we increased that only 4 yards, weād be in the top 30% of college footballā¦so again, I donāt think it is really realistic to think that a better punter is really going to drastically change our fortunes. It also would matter less if we didnāt leave our punter punting with an exceptionally long field all the time. Hart isnāt doing very well, but if he were consistently punting from the 30 or 40 yard line, he would pretty frequently be pinning opponents inside the 20-30 yard line on the other side of the field.
Our offense is patheticā¦mostly because of QB play. We have pretty decent receivers and a stud RB. QB is the problem. We are playing guys that didnāt even really have much in the way of FCS offers at the FBS level. I donāt blame them for not being able to handle it, their recruitment shows they werenāt FBS quality. I pin it on our coaches for not trying to address the problem with a JUCO or 5th year player. Lambert said before the season that they had a plan for QB and they were sticking to that plan, but that plan was terrible. It was too soon to expert Barden to contribute and everyone going into the season pointed out our QBs as major weaknesses, so it isnāt like this sneaked up on us. Bringing in a guy to play for 1-2 years while we developed Barden and possibly a few other recruits was needed. With a mediocre QB, we have wins against FAU and ODU and are likely sitting at 4-3 right now. We donāt even need a good one to get to 4 wins with our schedule so far. A mediocre one would have been enough.
Iām not a football coach, and neither is anyone else here, but it was painfully obvious to anyone that QB was a huge weakness playing low level opponents. I donāt know why our coaches thought what we had was acceptable with a huge step up in competition.
I think everyone is pretty kosher with losing this year, but losing with a bad QB that canāt throw farther than 5 yards and is statistically the worst on our roster is frustrating as hell.
Iāve lost a lot of faith in the staff for sticking with Lee McNeil.
[quote=āeason49, post:35, topic:29916ā]I think everyone is pretty kosher with losing this year, but losing with a bad QB that canāt throw farther than 5 yards and is statistically the worst on our roster is frustrating as hell.
Iāve lost a lot of faith in the staff for sticking with Lee McNeil.[/quote]I agree. I have no issues with us losing. I expected it coming into the season and said before the season Iād be happy with 2 wins.
That said, you canāt just trot out a boring product that inspires no hope in your fanbase. When you do that, you end up with a homecoming on a perfect fall day with less than 14,000 people in attendance (and realistically, probably only about 12,000). Weāre not even remotely entertaining to watch. If I didnāt mind being a part of the problem, I wouldnāt come to another game this year because there are far more entertaining ways to spend my Saturday afternoons. Not coming doesnāt help grow the program though, so Iāll be there, but most other people donāt care as much as the people on this board.
Most people feel no obligation to attend sporting events. They go to be entertained. Bottom line is that weāre not entertaining.
[quote=āNiner National, post:36, topic:29916ā][quote=āeason49, post:35, topic:29916ā]I think everyone is pretty kosher with losing this year, but losing with a bad QB that canāt throw farther than 5 yards and is statistically the worst on our roster is frustrating as hell.
Iāve lost a lot of faith in the staff for sticking with Lee McNeil.[/quote]I agree. I have no issues with us losing. I expected it coming into the season and said before the season Iād be happy with 2 wins.
That said, you canāt just trot out a boring product that inspires no hope in your fanbase. When you do that, you end up with a homecoming on a perfect fall day with less than 14,000 people in attendance (and realistically, probably only about 12,000). Weāre not even remotely entertaining to watch. If I didnāt mind being a part of the problem, I wouldnāt come to another game this year because there are far more entertaining ways to spend my Saturday afternoons. Not coming doesnāt help grow the program though, so Iāll be there, but most other people donāt care as much as the people on this board.
Most people feel no obligation to attend sporting events. They go to be entertained. Bottom line is that weāre not entertaining.[/quote]
Again, winning solves everything.
[quote=ā49er1, post:33, topic:29916ā][quote=āninerID, post:29, topic:29916ā][quote=ā49er1, post:28, topic:29916ā][quote=āRuckus42, post:27, topic:29916ā]Yes we have given up on Barden or he would be our starter right now. Klugh coach at A&T didnāt think too highly of his abilities.
Here is some Riley info. 3 offers and none are from us.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Riley-Ferguson-88244/RecruitInterests[/quote]
Obviously he has baggage we donāt want to carry. Get over it and move on. Believe it, qb is NOT our only problem. It may be halfway down the list.[/quote]
I was with you until that last part. I donāt think you can name 3 things needed more than better quarterback play.
Our starting QB has the worst rating in FBS: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/order/false
That 72 isnāt to be confused with QBR. His raw QBR is a 9.2ā¦ Matt āthe human turnoverā johnson has a raw QBR that is almost 5x higher!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/551919/matt-johnson
But letās be honest, 42 isnāt getting it done either.
Iām not arguing we donāt have other issues, but QB is by far the biggest by a mile.[/quote]
I spoke to Tank Williams mom last year. She told me he was a Qb who had never played defense before coming to Charlotte. He also only held an offer from NCCU when we came calling. I would imaging we still have 25 guys on the roster with similar stories who are playing often. I think a lot of Tank and think if we were still in FCS, heād be a great success story.
At this point, we are not playing with a full deck.
I donāt understand why weāre talking about poor play from other roster spots? I donāt really have any problem with most other folksā play. While they could do better, they mostly are competitive (even though they make mistakes).
Lee McNeil has no business starting at QB for any team in FBS, and probably not very many in FCS.
I canāt think of a single other starter on our team that I could that that about.
[quote=āeason49, post:39, topic:29916ā]I donāt understand why weāre talking about poor play from other roster spots? I donāt really have any problem with most other folksā play. While they could do better, they mostly are competitive (even though they make mistakes).
Lee McNeil has no business starting at QB for any team in FBS, and probably not very many in FCS.
I canāt think of a single other starter on our team that I could that that about.[/quote]
i mostly agree with this statement. while i think our lbās and secondary need some more speed, we are mostly competitive at all positions but our qbās are killing us.