Unpopular opinion, but should have dropped sports…assuming it would not have impacted conference affiliation, though I suspect that’s likely.
Yes, there are SOME schools dropping sports. In the extreme case of Sonoma State, the entire institution is facing financial strain - primarily because of an almost 40% drop in enrollment over the past decade. Cleveland State has also experienced an enrollment decline though not as precipitous as Sonoma State, thus trimming of individual sports instead of a complete department shutdown like SSU.
If rev share does have to abide by title IX a lot of sports are going to be in the chopping block.
New administration so likelihood that’s not going to happen.
This also shows that we have presumably done a decent job of balancing the books.
We have not had to cut sports and we able to add sports to meet title 9.
Obviously we have the increase in enrollment that helps there.
But at least we have not taken what should be a stable budget and completely screwed the pooch.
Financial stability is going to be key moving forward. Just to keep programs going.
And we have no idea what is REALLY coming in the future.
This house case seems like a house of cards.
The ruling does nothing to prevent future lawsuits.
While House has been given a preliminary OK, a ruling for final approval is scheduled for April.
And yes, there will be more lawsuits until collective bargaining etc comes into play.
We shall see. I know Mike mentioned hope that new administration would provide more structure, but I’d be hesitant to put any faith on anything as a sure bet when it comes to all of this. The only thing that ends all of this is spinning ADs off away from schools, dropping all academics and then collectively bargaining with athletes as a professional sports entity. As long as sports are tied to tax supported public schools even with collective bargaining there are going to be court cases.
Regardless of rev share, as schools like ours get squeezed eliminating sports is going to be on the table.
clt says auto industry and food industry are going to have price increases as well
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Maybe we’re trying to drag stadium expansion out so we don’t actually need it if the big boys do indeed break away. That’s my conspiracy theory
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The press box expansion pretty much has to happen. The current set up wasn’t even enough for FCS. Im with you on size though once we get this phase done on both sides I’m not convinced we will need anything bigger.
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If you are adding up the money spent dont forget we increased & extended the AD last Fall after the football team had a Win over Gardner Webb. Going from 0-2, to 1-2.
Looking back now it would seem the timing was maybe rushed thru, waiting for a Win to announce and probably they all knew Biff was not going to work at that point. But knew it would of been difficult to extend AD once the news was out that they were going to move on quickly from Biff. Would suspect they knew after the loss to JMU…. He was 3-10 at that point about to go 3-11.
It’s the same pot of money. If we are not increasing fundraising, where is the additional money coming from? Mike is a bait and switch guy. What he says publicly is one thing…
Agreed. Sure seems like sports viewership is falling off in general (except NFL).
Feels like it’s going to be the new normal. Still popular, just not as much as before.
Having a nice but compact stadium may be a blessing for us.
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I think if you look at what’s going on in college soccer, were trending towards that sort of model, but it’s going to take a long time to break college football and college basketball.
That said, we are uniquely positioned to be a desirable spot if that sort of model were to occur in other sports with NBA and NFL teams minutes down the street.
Isn’t that just robbing Peter to pay Paul? Shift money from one side of the ledger to the other so student fees aren’t paying students, but student fees have to make up the difference for the AAC payouts paid to revenue share.
All the money goes to the same budget. You can change the allocation but the budget stays the budget.
That is true - but student fees can’t be increased without legislative approval and last I heard there was zero support for any increases in fees. So while yes it’s moving money in the books it puts downward pressure on funding new money. If AAC money is being used to pay athletes and fees can’t be increased then the AD has to find donors or sponsorships to make up that revenue.
Mike has driven me to where I wish we would just disband sports. The burden we are placing on students is criminal at this point.
No one with any sense would advise a young person with no job and no wealth to “invest” $4,000 in Niner sports, much less to take out loans to pay it off over 10, 20, or 30 years.
That money could be worthwhile of course, because if your revenue sports perform well, it brings national recognition to your school, which increases the value of your degree. Instead, we flush tens of millions a year down the shitter on the backs of students. My work is all national, I do very little business in NC. When I tell people where I went to school, I get one of two responses: Completely miffed, or “oh the Tar Heels right?” It’s embarrassing to the point I hate even being asked the question.
I’m serious, Mike has won. It just doesn’t make good sense to keep propping up this abomination of a sports program. Just shut it down at this point.
If we are going to be terrible and not compete on the national stage, at most we should just drop to DII and cap coaching salaries at $75K a year and play in a regional league. Our program is a masterclass in financial waste.
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When it comes to intercollegiate sports and fiscal irresponsibility, Rutgers has no peer, though UCLA and UConn have tried to crash that “party” recently.
Aside from about 25 programs within the P4, everyone is losing money, all the way down to D-III. Plus the impending House settlement etc will probably make it even worse.
Definitely agree about the financial burden placed on the regular student. I can foresee an “uprising” against athletic fees, especially in Virginia where the decade old cap on that source of funding is being reconsidered by those who want public schools to have more latitude on how they raise additional capital in light of NIL etc.
You can say that about 300 other schools in the nation. For the record I don’t disagree
My buddy in DC gets that all the time. For 30 years.
I get it when I travel and the subject comes up.
I hate hate hate the name situation.
Agree on most of your points although I don’t lay it at the feet of Mike Hill.
I think a lot of it is systemic.
It’s going to take a ballsy chancellor and board to drop their sports down to a cheaper level that hopefully will allow a break even or nominal cost level.
I don’t think it would hurt the university at all if we dropped to D3.
We do need peers to play though.
Would be better if it’s done in a wave of the G5 dropping down and regionalizing.
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