Packer making ammends?

I just finished listening to that dumbass QCB’s segment on the show. He of course bashed our fans. However I will agree that attendance did suck against TCU. The only way to stop his uneducated ass from being ignorant is for Packer to allow QCB to get rid of his 100,000 dollar debt. Packer did say that he knew our fans were pissed off.

The other B.S I think is that Packer overbearingly stated how he deffended us in the show. That’s funny.

And Finally who is that hillbilly hick-ass redneck that said we would be done early march. That’s beside the fact that he said we were better than N.C State. He said that in a manner that he was suprised we were better. Why are we the team to compare to when they suck, We are better every year!

This show’s priorities are wrong. Primetime show: SUPPORT YOUR OWN CITY!!!

Load of crap. The Niner bashing will continue on that show. Maybe they’ll tone it down, but it will still be there. They’ll probably let the whiner line do it for them.

Packer claims to be a huge niner fan. I have sent him e-mails in the past including one today. He claims to be a “fan” since he is in our media guide with Lutz.

I think tomorrow QCB will say “Hell it’s woth losing $100,000 to the packman if I can bash the niners.” that is the kind of guy he is.

[i]Originally posted by svsniner[/i]@Jan 27 2005, 06:25 PM [b] I just finished listening to that dumbass QCB's segment on the show. He of course bashed our fans. However I will agree that attendance did suck against TCU. The only way to stop his uneducated ass from being ignorant is for Packer to allow QCB to get rid of his 100,000 dollar debt. Packer did say that he knew our fans were pissed off.

The other B.S I think is that Packer overbearingly stated how he deffended us in the show. That’s funny.

And Finally who is that hillbilly hick-ass redneck that said we would be done early march. That’s beside the fact that he said we were better than N.C State. He said that in a manner that he was suprised we were better. Why are we the team to compare to when they suck, We are better every year!

This show’s priorities are wrong. Primetime show: SUPPORT YOUR OWN CITY!!! [/b]


Stop listening.

You are playing right into his hand.

Agree with PI, as we have said many , many times, why do you listen to the idiot?

I think that situation sucks because I actually listen to 610 during the daytime. My radio was tuned in about an hour before Lutz Live. I still like the sports station. It’s just a general feeling. No attachments to the show. However QCB comes to our games sometimes. It is hard to believe he shows up only for material for the show.

[i]Originally posted by svsniner[/i]@Jan 27 2005, 07:25 PM [b] I just finished listening to that dumbass QCB's segment on the show... Packer did say that he knew our fans were pissed off. [/b]
I hope this e-mail to WFNZ's advertising deparment yesterday had an effect

Scott,

I am not a direct listener to WFNZ due to your limited range, although I do listen to every 49er basketball game over the internet. Based on what I have been reading on the Internet, I have to say that Mark Packer has really pissed off a lot of people in the Charlotte 49er community.

How can your station allow him to continually and undeservedly trash the Charlotte 49ers basketball program when they are a good hometown basketball program that actually SPONSORS Packer’s program, and your station?

Yes, we do not have the legacy of a Duke or Carolina in terms of history but we are trying to build one. His BS is poisoning the minds of listeners who might otherwise support the 49ers basketball program. What good is the University’s advertising if he mocks their commercials when they air by twisting their ad slogan into more of his childish tripe against all things non-ACC. Would you allow him to call Wilton Auto Body a bunch of rip-off artists on the air or announce that Town & Country Ford sells salvaged vehicles from hurricane ravaged Florida as new? Both would be untrue (I would hope) and slanderous, but how is that any different from trashing a sponsor that is a legitimately good basketball program on the verge of national ranking?

Yes, the 49ers have their faults and I have no problem with those faults being discussed on the air but there are two sides to the discussion and Packer is way out of line in his constant bashing. I guess it is true that people fear what they don’t understand and that people who protest the loudest against something often do so out of jealousy. Mark can’t tolerate Charlotte being more successful than most of the teams in his beloved ACC.

Like it or not, the fortunes of Charlotte graduates like myself can be impacted by the reputation of our athletic programs. Successful athletic programs build the prestige of the school, which reflects positively on me if I re-enter the job market. Mark’s antics devalue my degree in the Charlotte labor market, hitting me where it hurts, my wallet. I’m going to hit back.

He has his opinions and I have mine. My opinion is that he is a two-bit, childish hack that rode into town on his father’s coattails.

I am going to call, write, e-mail, blog, and chat with anyone who cares to listen about what a hack he is. I am going to contact his sponsors and express my displeasure with them for supporting his show. I am going to contact Charlotte 49er Basketball program sponsors and tell them how Packer is steering listeners away from 49er basketball games and broadcasts with his tripe, devaluing their advertising dollars. I am going to recommend that my friends, relatives, acquaintances, and co-workers do the same. The written and spoken word is a powerful tool, as you well know. The people of Charlotte are about to find out what kind of tool Packer is.

A pissed off 49er Fan

Edit: Scott Vandivier’s response

Thank you for your email. I am sorry to hear you feel that way. But, you have to understand, if you listened to Primetime with the Packman, you would know that he is critical not just of Charlotte, but all teams that under perform, even my sales department. This includes UNC, Duke, South Carolina, Panthers, Clemson (his own alma matter), Wake Forest, etc. That is why his show is listener driven, it give those fans of the teams he is critical of a chance to call in and voice their opinion. It is what makes his show so popular.

Also, keep in mind, his opinions do not reflect those of WFNZ’s. I am available for more thoughts and comments.

Scott Vandivier

General Sales Manager

I don’t think we actually sponsor Packers show. Apparently he and his cohorts just say we do as part of their little game.

Well written!

Its up to our boys to go out there and prove him wrong. As long as we finish up strong and make a nice run in March he wont have anything left to say… I hope we get to play NC State or Maryland first round then Duke second or something crazy like that. We would win both games!

In case someone hasnt seen this in a Previous Discussion
Some WFNZ sponsors from their website:

scott.apsega@townandcountryford.com
sponsorships@charlotteknights.com
Kens Satellites - ZIGMAN@DIRECWAY.COM zigman@ctc.net
sales@scottclarkstoyota.com
reservations@villaantonio.com
Sales@RockCarpet.com
store_manager@rmg3.com
jockscharlotte@mindspring.com
golfcharlotte@carolina.rr.com
ccg04@carolinagolf.com
kwtour@hotmail.com
tickets@gocheckers.com
sales@targetedgolf.com
staff@chirocarecenter.net
manager@thegrad.com
Rcaldwell@GreatGolfEvents.com
sgc@leroysprings.com
bubba@bubbasbbq.com
info@bobcatsbasketball.com

For mass email purposes, copy and paste

scott.apsega@townandcountryford.com, sponsorships@charlotteknights.com, ZIGMAN@DIRECWAY.COM, sales@scottclarkstoyota.com, reservations@villaantonio.com, Sales@RockCarpet.com, store_manager@rmg3.com, jockscharlotte@mindspring.com, golfcharlotte@carolina.rr.com, ccg04@carolinagolf.com, kwtour@hotmail.com, tickets@gocheckers.com, sales@targetedgolf.com, Rcaldwell@GreatGolfEvents.com, manager@thegrad.com, sgc@leroysprings.com, bubba@bubbasbbq.com, info@bobcatsbasketball.com, staff@chirocarecenter.net, zigman@ctc.net, deli1045@southerndeli.com, deli1051@southerndeli.com, deli1068@southerndeli.com, deli1072@southerndeli.com, deli1022@southerndeli.com

I’ll try to keep the list updated, so if anyone can find any post them and Ill add them here. Thanks.

My email (short and to the point):

[b][SIZE=2]The UNC Charlotte Community members have targeted your business for a boycott because of its sponsorship of WFNZ 610AM. Charlotte fans are upset at WFNZ and the abrasive antics of radio personality Mark Packer. We will not support his afternoon show or any businesses that choose to advertise on the station while the show is on the air. We encourage you to contact WFNZ about canceling Mark Packers radio show and to better use your advertising dollars elsewhere.[/SIZE][/b]

Dont call his show, dont email the studio, dont email the sponsers with a long rant about how Packer Sucks blah, blah, blah. Posting daily updates of what he said on his show just adds fuel to the ‘forty whiner’ fire since he undoubtedly patrols here sometimes. Just email the athletic department and the contact the sponsers saying that you do not support his show.

[i]Originally posted by 49erpi[/i]@Jan 27 2005, 07:51 PM [b] I don't think we actually sponsor Packers show. Apparently he and his cohorts just say we do as part of their little game. [/b]
Charlotte athletics has sponsored hour-segments of his show, usually on game day from what I can tell. He used to be the spokesman for the mini-packs but at least we got rid of him for that.
[i]Originally posted by MeinShaft[/i]@Jan 27 2005, 07:47 PM [b] Edit: Scott Vandivier's response

Thank you for your email. I am sorry to hear you feel that way. But, you have to understand, if you listened to Primetime with the Packman, you would know that he is critical not just of Charlotte, but all teams that under perform, even my sales department. This includes UNC, Duke, South Carolina, Panthers, Clemson (his own alma matter), Wake Forest, etc. That is why his show is listener driven, it give those fans of the teams he is critical of a chance to call in and voice their opinion. It is what makes his show so popular.

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You can let him know Packer’s puppets (QCB & Hayseed) are not listener/caller driven. QCB has a regular segment and regularly discredits the Niners and even says it’s sponsored by the University. Some people believe, Packer dictates his content.

I’ve been told that we do NOT sponsor the segment that QCB does about our “What are you doing tonight?” catch phrase. If this is true, then why does he continue to state that the segment is brought to you by the “UNC Charlotte 49ers?”

I couldn’t care less about Packer. And I couldn’t care less what he thinks about our team, our coach, or our fans. He’s entitled to his opinion, regardless of how ridiculous it is and I know it’s all just his attempt to make good radio/stir the pot. I don’t listen to the show unless someone tells me to switch over for a reason. And I wouldn’t dare call in because I wouldn’t want his ego to be stroked by assuming I’m listening to him. But with that said, my problem is simply QCB being allowed to state that a segment in which he completely mocks us, is sponsored by the unversity/athletic program. And why our athletic department allows him to suggest that, is beyond me. And if for some reason we actually do sponser that segment, then I’d like a refund on my contribution if any part of it is going to WFNZ. When we pay a station to promote our product and carry our games, then they should show some class/professionalism by not biting the hand that helps feed them.

[i]Originally posted by Hooligan[/i]@Jan 27 2005, 08:05 PM [b] In case some one hasnt seen this.. Some WFNZ sponsors from their website:

scott.apsega@townandcountryford.com
sponsorships@charlotteknights.com
Kens Satellites - ZIGMAN@DIRECWAY.COM
sales@scottclarkstoyota.com
reservations@villaantonio.com
Sales@RockCarpet.com
store_manager@rmg3.com
jockscharlotte@mindspring.com
info@shopgolfcharlotte.com
ccg04@carolinagolf.com
kwtour2003@hotmail.com
tickets@gocheckers.com
sales@targetedgolf.com
redrocksca@aol.com
manager@thegrad.com
Rcaldwell@GreatGolfEvents.com
sgc@leroysprings.com

For mass email purposes, copy and paste

scott.apsega@townandcountryford.com, sponsorships@charlotteknights.com, ZIGMAN@DIRECWAY.COM, sales@scottclarkstoyota.com, reservations@villaantonio.com, Sales@RockCarpet.com, store_manager@rmg3.com, jockscharlotte@mindspring.com, info@shopgolfcharlotte.com, ccg04@carolinagolf.com, kwtour2003@hotmail.com, tickets@gocheckers.com, sales@targetedgolf.com, redrocksca@aol.com, Rcaldwell@GreatGolfEvents.com, manager@thegrad.com, sgc@leroysprings.com

My email (short and to the point):

[b][SIZE=2]The UNC Charlotte Community members have targeted your business for a boycott because of its sponsorship of WFNZ 610AM. Charlotte fans are upset at WFNZ and the abrasive antics of radio personality Mark Packer. We will not support his afternoon show or any businesses that choose to advertise on the station while the show is on the air. We encourage you to contact WFNZ about canceling Mark Packers radio show and to better use your advertising dollars elsewhere.[/SIZE][/b]

Dont call his show, dont email the studio, dont email the sponsers with a long rant about how Packer Sucks blah, blah, blah. Posting daily updates of what he said on his show just adds fuel to the ‘forty whiner’ fire since he undoubtedly patrols here sometimes. Just email the athletic department and the contact the sponsers saying that you do not support his show. [/b]


Hooligan is right on the money and I encourage everyone to copy and paste the sponsors and write a similar email.

Trashing Packer or citing instances in the email is unnecessary. Just state your purpose and name Packer’s behavior as the reason for the email.

How about a role call for everyone who has emailed Packer’s sponsors.

I sent mine out tonight. I think this is the best way to rattle his cage.

Sent mine to the whole gang.

[i]Originally posted by MeinShaft[/i]@Jan 27 2005, 07:47 PM [b]

Thank you for your email. I am sorry to hear you feel that way. But, you have to understand, if you listened to Primetime with the Packman, you would know that he is critical not just of Charlotte, but all teams that under perform, even my sales department. This includes UNC, Duke, South Carolina, Panthers, Clemson (his own alma matter), Wake Forest, etc. That is why his show is listener driven, it give those fans of the teams he is critical of a chance to call in and voice their opinion. It is what makes his show so popular.

[/b]


None of those other programs are hurting for drawing more fans. All have established solid alumni bases (except the Panthers, which are a pro team). Clemson is worthy of his criticism. I think our real beef here is that we are the underdog playing in the shadow of the ACC, and while it may be funny to kick the giants, it’s not funny to kick us, or have we finally arrived? I won’t say we’re there until Halton is sold out every game.

Since I’ve never listened to his show, someone answer me this: Does he ever pick on Davidson athletics? JC Smith? UNC Pembroke? Maybe we are fair game in his eye because we are one of the big guys. I just think public opinion is not to the point yet that it doesn’t hurt us when we’re kicked.

[i]Originally posted by austinniner[/i]@Jan 28 2005, 01:26 AM [b] Since I've never listened to his show, someone answer me this: Does he ever pick on Davidson athletics? JC Smith? UNC Pembroke? Maybe we are fair game in his eye because we are one of the big guys. I just think public opinion is not to the point yet that it doesn't hurt us when we're kicked. [/b]
No, we're fair game to Packer because he perceives our fans, historically, as whiners and having an ACC inferiority complex. And he doesn't believe we support our program based on our attendance and our lack of interaction with his radio show. He assumes that since no Niner fans call his show, that we are apathetic towards our team. And anytime we mention the ACC (like Bobby did in the paper), regardless of the context, he is going to rip us apart.

What bugs me is that he alternates between playing good cop and bad cop to save face. He has put us down countless times in the past but then when QCB tears into us, Packer tries to take our side so that he looks like the Niner friendly good guy. It’s just all so phony. And don’t say he was a supporter because he took part in the “Mini-Pack” tickets. At what price did that one come at to get him to promote the product?

I agree about the targeting the sponsors. Packer doesn’t care if we slam him personally or rip his show on a messageboard. Actually, he loves it and feels as though he’s accomplishing his goal of hitting a nerve in us all. You have to hit a guy like Packer where it hurts: ratings and sponsors. Don’t listen to the show and complain to the people that help fatten his wallet. Then maybe “the home of Charlotte 49er basketball” will exhibit an element of class by not degrading our program.