[opinion withheld until full staff is announced]
I have full confidence that Price knows about 10X more Basketball than Moton. Price is 51 and has been involved with basketball at ever level at the highest level. His Dad was a Coach, he was a borderline HOF NBA PG which is a coach on the court. I guarantee he will be successful and he is the best hire we could have made other than Hurley and Iâm not sure heâs not a better hire than Hurley.
All you people that keep questioning his coaching or lack there of just stop, you are just making yourselves look silly.[/quote]
I have full confidence in his teaching abilities. What is unknown is his head coaching ability and how he is at making adjustments in game and game planning. It might be awesome - he hasnât been in this situation before so I think it is fair to call that an unknown. I think we will be fine, but the part that makes me cautious is that.
if he hires a good staff that can coach and recruit, i will feel confident about this hire.
I think its a good hire. Just a year or two ago Price was considered for the Cleveland Cavaliers HC position and was probably gonna get a HC job in the NBA in the next few years. I know the demands and responsibilities are a lot different for NBA and College bball, but would you really say no to a NBA head coach?
For the guys worried about his Xâs and Oâs ability, do you understand what a NBA point guards role is? You donât run an NBA offense without knowing what the hell is going on out there. Xâs and Oâs are at the bottom of my list of concerns. To me the real question is gonna be can he recruit, and can he relate to kids. First thing he needs to do is ensure Izundu stay committed and then convince Willie and Throne to stay. If he does that, his job will be a lot easier this year.
I have full confidence that Price knows about 10X more Basketball than Moton. Price is 51 and has been involved with basketball at ever level at the highest level. His Dad was a Coach, he was a borderline HOF NBA PG which is a coach on the court. I guarantee he will be successful and he is the best hire we could have made other than Hurley and Iâm not sure heâs not a better hire than Hurley.
All you people that keep questioning his coaching or lack there of just stop, you are just making yourselves look silly.[/quote]
You shouldnât just state your opinions about things as fact. Hal Wissel probably knew more about basketball at the time we hired him than many other candidates we had at the time, but it didnât necessarily translate to success here. Many times itâs about how youâre able to apply what you know, in the position you are in. You just didnât like Moton as a candidate, so you try to ignore his success and minimize his potential. Forgive me if I take peopleâs opinions, like Coach K, about him over yours. So, when people say silly things like he wouldnât have been a good candidate, like Hurley, Underwood, Prohm, etc., I canât even take what they say on the subject seriously.
But, this is supposed to be about coach Price now, whom I will support fully. He always had a high basketball IQ, and has great potential as a coach. But bringing up his lack of head coaching experience is not silly, but a very valid concern.
[quote=âice_cold49er, post:25, topic:29516â]You shouldnât just state your opinions about things as fact. Hal Wissel probably knew more about basketball at the time we hired him than many other candidates we had at the time, but it didnât necessarily translate to success here. Many times itâs about how youâre able to apply what you know, in the position you are in. You just didnât like Moton as a candidate, so you try to ignore his success and minimize his potential. Forgive me if I take peopleâs opinions, like Coach K, about him over yours. So, when people say silly things like he wouldnât have been a good candidate, like Hurley, Underwood, Prohm, etc., I canât even take what they say on the subject seriously.
But, this is supposed to be about coach Price now, whom I will support fully. He always had a high basketball IQ, and has great potential as a coach. But bringing up his lack of head coaching experience is not silly, but a very valid concern.[/quote]
I agree with everything you say here.
But, I am also excited about Price. I think Moton is gonna do big things, but our fanbase is locked into a mentality of youâre either flawless or terrible.
Iâm waiting for the staff to be assembled.
As far as him for a coach, my worries would be in his coaching abilities, and being the head man. Heâs been an assistant and thatâs great, but can he handle the main chair? Getting a former HC in as an assistant is likely a must. That will make me feel a bit better about this concern.
As far as Xâs and Oâs, just because you understand them at a high level, doesnât mean you can teach it or relate it to someone at a high level. I want to believe he wonât have a problem with this part, but that remains to be seen.
[quote=âPowerbait, post:26, topic:29516â][quote=âice_cold49er, post:25, topic:29516â]You shouldnât just state your opinions about things as fact. Hal Wissel probably knew more about basketball at the time we hired him than many other candidates we had at the time, but it didnât necessarily translate to success here. Many times itâs about how youâre able to apply what you know, in the position you are in. You just didnât like Moton as a candidate, so you try to ignore his success and minimize his potential. Forgive me if I take peopleâs opinions, like Coach K, about him over yours. So, when people say silly things like he wouldnât have been a good candidate, like Hurley, Underwood, Prohm, etc., I canât even take what they say on the subject seriously.
But, this is supposed to be about coach Price now, whom I will support fully. He always had a high basketball IQ, and has great potential as a coach. But bringing up his lack of head coaching experience is not silly, but a very valid concern.[/quote]
I agree with everything you say here.
But, I am also excited about Price. I think Moton is gonna do big things, but our fanbase is locked into a mentality of youâre either flawless or terrible.[/quote]
Iâm happy and excited with Price because I respected and loved his game as a player. Made very very few poor decisions on the court, and hopefully he can teach our guys to be more disciplined and fundamentally sound. Off the court, from everything I have seen, he is a good husband and father, and also a man of faith, so thatâs just bonus points.
[quote=âice_cold49er, post:28, topic:29516â][quote=âPowerbait, post:26, topic:29516â][quote=âice_cold49er, post:25, topic:29516â]You shouldnât just state your opinions about things as fact. Hal Wissel probably knew more about basketball at the time we hired him than many other candidates we had at the time, but it didnât necessarily translate to success here. Many times itâs about how youâre able to apply what you know, in the position you are in. You just didnât like Moton as a candidate, so you try to ignore his success and minimize his potential. Forgive me if I take peopleâs opinions, like Coach K, about him over yours. So, when people say silly things like he wouldnât have been a good candidate, like Hurley, Underwood, Prohm, etc., I canât even take what they say on the subject seriously.
But, this is supposed to be about coach Price now, whom I will support fully. He always had a high basketball IQ, and has great potential as a coach. But bringing up his lack of head coaching experience is not silly, but a very valid concern.[/quote]
I agree with everything you say here.
But, I am also excited about Price. I think Moton is gonna do big things, but our fanbase is locked into a mentality of youâre either flawless or terrible.[/quote]
Iâm happy and excited with Price because I respected and loved his game as a player. Made very very few poor decisions on the court, and hopefully he can teach our guys to be more disciplined and fundamentally sound. Off the court, from everything I have seen, he is a good husband and father, and also a man of faith, so thatâs just bonus points. [/quote]
You know ice, I was thinking about how similar he is to Lambert on a personal level. They also both have kids playing college sports. Lotâs of areas to bond and it has to help when you have a peer that you can use as a sounding board, or to give you some direction. I am sure that Major and Lambert were friends, but were they buddies? Not too much in common. Maybe this will go better.
[quote=âNugget, post:29, topic:29516â][quote=âice_cold49er, post:28, topic:29516â][quote=âPowerbait, post:26, topic:29516â][quote=âice_cold49er, post:25, topic:29516â]You shouldnât just state your opinions about things as fact. Hal Wissel probably knew more about basketball at the time we hired him than many other candidates we had at the time, but it didnât necessarily translate to success here. Many times itâs about how youâre able to apply what you know, in the position you are in. You just didnât like Moton as a candidate, so you try to ignore his success and minimize his potential. Forgive me if I take peopleâs opinions, like Coach K, about him over yours. So, when people say silly things like he wouldnât have been a good candidate, like Hurley, Underwood, Prohm, etc., I canât even take what they say on the subject seriously.
But, this is supposed to be about coach Price now, whom I will support fully. He always had a high basketball IQ, and has great potential as a coach. But bringing up his lack of head coaching experience is not silly, but a very valid concern.[/quote]
I agree with everything you say here.
But, I am also excited about Price. I think Moton is gonna do big things, but our fanbase is locked into a mentality of youâre either flawless or terrible.[/quote]
Iâm happy and excited with Price because I respected and loved his game as a player. Made very very few poor decisions on the court, and hopefully he can teach our guys to be more disciplined and fundamentally sound. Off the court, from everything I have seen, he is a good husband and father, and also a man of faith, so thatâs just bonus points. [/quote]
You know ice, I was thinking about how similar he is to Lambert on a personal level. They also both have kids playing college sports. Lotâs of areas to bond and it has to help when you have a peer that you can use as a sounding board, or to give you some direction. I am sure that Major and Lambert were friends, but were they buddies? Not too much in common. Maybe this will go better.[/quote]
I always thought it was good for the coaches of a school to have a good relationship with one another. Just having that support from someone else who understands what you go through as a coach of a university, and it builds more of a family atmosphere within the whole athletic program.
Iâm sure Price and Lambert will develop a great relationship and friendship.
I like it. I think he adds credibility to the program and has the potential to be very successful here.
I donât see Not Sure as an option?
I have full confidence that Price knows about 10X more Basketball than Moton. Price is 51 and has been involved with basketball at ever level at the highest level. His Dad was a Coach, he was a borderline HOF NBA PG which is a coach on the court. I guarantee he will be successful and he is the best hire we could have made other than Hurley and Iâm not sure heâs not a better hire than Hurley.
All you people that keep questioning his coaching or lack there of just stop, you are just making yourselves look silly.[/quote]
You shouldnât just state your opinions about things as fact. Hal Wissel probably knew more about basketball at the time we hired him than many other candidates we had at the time, but it didnât necessarily translate to success here. Many times itâs about how youâre able to apply what you know, in the position you are in. You just didnât like Moton as a candidate, so you try to ignore his success and minimize his potential. Forgive me if I take peopleâs opinions, like Coach K, about him over yours. So, when people say silly things like he wouldnât have been a good candidate, like Hurley, Underwood, Prohm, etc., I canât even take what they say on the subject seriously.
But, this is supposed to be about coach Price now, whom I will support fully. He always had a high basketball IQ, and has great potential as a coach. But bringing up his lack of head coaching experience is not silly, but a very valid concern.[/quote]
On a side note, before we hired Pratt in 82, we interviewed Gary Williams as well. He interviewed with Duquesne, Charlotte and Seton Hall. He said Charlotte and Duquesne were willing to pay and would likely have went to 1 of the 2 if the BC job had not opened. As we all know he left American and went to BC. What couldâve beenâŚ
But I digress. Mark Price is a good but risky hire. I hope he does well. I think staff will mean a lot.
I have full confidence that Price knows about 10X more Basketball than Moton. Price is 51 and has been involved with basketball at ever level at the highest level. His Dad was a Coach, he was a borderline HOF NBA PG which is a coach on the court. I guarantee he will be successful and he is the best hire we could have made other than Hurley and Iâm not sure heâs not a better hire than Hurley.
All you people that keep questioning his coaching or lack there of just stop, you are just making yourselves look silly.[/quote]
You shouldnât just state your opinions about things as fact. Hal Wissel probably knew more about basketball at the time we hired him than many other candidates we had at the time, but it didnât necessarily translate to success here. Many times itâs about how youâre able to apply what you know, in the position you are in. You just didnât like Moton as a candidate, so you try to ignore his success and minimize his potential. Forgive me if I take peopleâs opinions, like Coach K, about him over yours. So, when people say silly things like he wouldnât have been a good candidate, like Hurley, Underwood, Prohm, etc., I canât even take what they say on the subject seriously.
But, this is supposed to be about coach Price now, whom I will support fully. He always had a high basketball IQ, and has great potential as a coach. But bringing up his lack of head coaching experience is not silly, but a very valid concern.[/quote]
On a side note, before we hired Pratt in 82, we interviewed Gary Williams as well. He interviewed with Duquesne, Charlotte and Seton Hall. He said Charlotte and Duquesne were willing to pay and would likely have went to 1 of the 2 if the BC job had not opened. As we all know he left American and went to BC. What couldâve beenâŚ
But I digress. Mark Price is a good but risky hire. I hope he does well. I think staff will mean a lot.[/quote]
It was actually after Pratt, we hired Wissel instead. Worked out great for us, the program got so bad that we resorted to hiring a Car Dealer with no previous coaching experience.
The Price is Right. I like his fundamentals. Who knows if he can coach college ball. I do like the hire. Weâll see. Wasnât he like 90% or something career from the line? At a minimum weâll hit our FTs. Go Niners. Go Coach Price.
Sorry, didnât know women posted here.
(Jk women)
I also canât really say I like it or not without seeing the assistants he brings on. Iâm leaning towards not liking the hire, because it seems risky to me, even though I definitely see the potential for it to work out well too.
If he can bring in and work well with some high quality assistants that would help with recruiting and program management, then Iâll like it better and feel itâs not as risky. Iâm not worried that Price understands the game of basketball, heâs got extensive experience at almost every level, itâs more that Iâm not sure what heâll do running a program (which requires a lot of different skills and decisions than just understanding how to prepare to play basketball).
of course hope he does wellâŚbut as many of you are saying here, one year as a college assistant (was he part time? even) doesnât give you a lot of exposure to the other broad requirements of being a college HC, but of course played/practiced/was coached at the game at the highest level⌠still tough to take that mid February trip down to La Tech riding a 3 game losing streak and keeping everyoneâs spirit up, to get that tough win.
Many of todays best current HCs come from Kenyon College, Wash U, Randolph Macon etc⌠so different perspective.
Just curious what you think led Judy to this decision, the Mullins analogy ? or something else, would be good to know so we get that perspective, we may be missing some pieces here.
Is Mark Price considered to come from the Bobby Cremins coaching tree? And if so, what other coaches worked with Cremins? Only one I know that comes off my mind is Ben Jobe (coached the #13 Southern Jaguars to an upset of #4 Georgia Tech and Bobby Cremins in the NCAA Tourney)
1993: No. 13 Southern over No. 4 Georgia Tech 93-78: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ5HwOYzemE
I like the hire. I wonât âloveâ the hire until we are dancing again. I was in the Moton camp, for the energy I thought he would bring, but this hire is a ballsy hire. Not in so much of the unknown of what we can expect, but for the fact that he his a name that many people know. I am little concerned that many 18 year olds wonât know who Mark Price is, thank God for the internet and youtubeâŚBut how many coaches were college greats, and NBA all-stars? That alone will carry some significant weight in recruiting. And itâs recruiting that separates the men from the boys. When we see his staff, then I may re-adjust my excitement meter. But for right now, itâs a good day to be a Niner! 8)