How many seats do you want the football stadium expanded to after this next expansion?
- 25,000
- 30,000
- 35,000
- 40,000
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If the original plans are a true option for expansion, I believe 27,500 could be an option? If so, that would probably be my vote.
Bump⌠30k leading the way so far with 40%
Doesnât matter until they vote with their checkbook.
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Nah, gonna take much much more than our check books
would not be surprised if the unc system is working against us again
Can you redo the poll and have âno expansionâ as an option? The reason I ask is because some of the comments in the other thread read as if they believe thereâs a large # against expansion. I donât believe the issue is whether or not to expand, but rather how much to expand.
Since we donât fill up Halton every game we should move back to Belk Gym.
This thread in a nutshell.
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Perfect.
You just responded in the manner I was referring to. I donât think there are very many who believe we shouldnât expand at all. The debate is how big should the expansion be.
No, what you are saying is a strawman argument. Itâs a passive aggressive dismissal of very valid points about why we shouldnât settle for a half-assed expansion.
I pointed out a flaw in the basis of the logic you and others are employing.
If you are basing what the correct size of our stadium is on current attendance during Covid, current program status, etc, then your logic dictates that there is no reason for FAU or UTSA to improve their facilities, and likewise, Halton is more than sufficient. In fact, Belk would be a better fit.
But back to half assed expansions. People thinking like you are why ODU didnât get invited to the AAC. They only built half of the expanded stadium they advertised to donors / season ticket holders. At this point, itâs highly questionable whether they will ever build the 2nd stage of their expansion plan. Which is a shame, because it would make their stadium look and feel like a proper FBS stadium.
They didnât build all of this. Shame.
I donât want to make the same mistake ODU did. Thatâs what you and some others are advocating.
My GF and I are having this expansion argument as well. I say the current situation is fine. She wants an expansion.
Geez, a difference in opinion means passive aggressive and strawman? Mmm, ok. I donât know how more aggressively you would like for me to say that I think 35k is too big. lol. Your Halton analogy is flawed because Halton is already built. If you believe Halton was built with todayâs crowds in mind, youâre lying to yourself.
In regards to strawman, the argument for smaller than 35k isnât anymore strawman than the argument for 35k. Youâre kidding yourself if you think you know what our attendance figures will be in the future. Trust me, I want to believe youâre correct. I would like for nothing more than for Healy to make us a top 30 program and for the ticket demand to out weigh the supply. But Iâm not sure what out of the past 2 decades (18 of which without Covid) of Niner fandom gives you this confidence. We beat our first P5 program this season, an in state one at that. The attendance for the next home game actually dropped.
I also believe that an empty stadium is used against a program just as much, if not more than a small stadium is used. If thatâs not the case, then why are stadiums traditionally expanded gradually over time? Why not make every stadium 100k and be done with it? Because stadium expansion is speculative at best, and there is a reasonable number that is determined for the near future. Again, if we go the 35k route, I hope Iâm wrong about my speculation.
And youâre wrong about ODU. The stadium may have been a small factor. But the larger factor is that the AD wanted to stay in a more regional conference and quite frankly the fanbase seemed to rally behind that as well.
Man, sorry, I am not buying anything you are saying.
I do not want to repeat ODUs mistake.
Itâs really that simple.
I agree with your point but at least ODU did something with their stadium instead being silent for years and subverting the issue.
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Not sure stadium size was ODUâs Achilleâs Heel for getting into the AAC. It might have played a tangential part because of costs and ODU not feeling they could commit to raising their budget after financing a stadium build.
That said, they paid for demo, and basically a new stadium build after that and only got to $29.5M for 22k seats. We wouldnât need to pay anywhere near that to add 10k or 15k or even 20k to our stadium.
Yet the Draft AFMP (at 15k addition Phase I) has us paying $65M for that 15k?
I suspect âamenitiesâ vs seat numbers isnât an issue for us.
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clt says the Rich is going to be NICE
Well, the good news is, we canât make ODUâs âmistakeâ, weâre already in the AAC. 
To me the biggest thing with seat capacity are just the demographics that attendance is trending down and young people and students are less interested in football and sports than previous generations. Iâm less concerned about having what is perceived as a smaller stadium if itâs a really nice stadium. That is 3/4 full for all games and full for big ones.
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UNC chapel hill cut seating a few years back didnât they? To go smaller but nicer?
Whatever we do letâs keep it nice and donât get into so much debt we kneecap the department.