RPI numbers, 12/20/04

[SIZE=2]OUCH![/SIZE] They’re not getting better (for anyone), RPI is 171, SOS is 262.

49ers Non-conference Opponents
RPI 252, SOS 151 - Long Beach State, 1-5, last week: RPI 218, SOS 101
RPI 113 SOS 84 - Rutgers, 4-3, last week: RPI 89, SOS 67
RPI 141, SOS 16 - Valparaiso, 2-6, last week: RPI 130, SOS 12
RPI 100, SOS 23 - Louisiana Lafayette, 2-5, last week: RPI 100, SOS 21
RPI 43, SOS 98 - Alabama, 8-1, last week: RPI 28, SOS 98
RPI 198, SOS 165 - Davidson, 2-5, last week: RPI 182, SOS 107
RPI 230, SOS 173 - Georgia State, 2-5, last week: RPI 230, SOS 173
RPI 241, SOS 101 - UNC Asheville, 1-6, last week: RPI 217, SOS 99
RPI 181, SOS 46 - Indiana, 2-5, last week: RPI 90, SOS 19
RPI 170, SOS 92 - Yale, 2-6, last week: RPI 239, SOS 194
RPI 121, SOS 181 - Santa Clara, 6-4, last week: RPI 115, SOS 181
RPI 288, SOS 289 - Central Connecticut, 2-4, last week: RPI 273, SOS 264

Conference USA
RPI rank 10, SOS rank 14; last week: RPI rank 8, SOS rank 11
Non conference record 70-43 vs. Division I; last week 59-35 vs. Division 1

RPI 24, SOS 5 - Texas Christian, 5-4, last week: RPI 12, SOS 4
RPI 33, SOS 189 - Cincinnati, 7-0, last week: RPI 28, SOS 164
RPI 51, SOS 162 – Alabama Birmingham, 5-2, last week: RPI 31, SOS 75
RPI 38, SOS 78 - Marquette, 8-1, last week: RPI 16, SOS 113
RPI 62, SOS 52 - DePaul, 6-3, last week: RPI 23, SOS 25
RPI 79, SOS 86 - Louisville, 4-3, last week: RPI 45, SOS 97
RPI 103, SOS 93 - Memphis, 6-4, last week: RPI 77, SOS 65
RPI 112, SOS 215 - Houston, 7-3, last week: RPI 136, SOS 189
RPI 117, SOS 38 - East Carolina, 3-5, last week: RPI 116, SOS 70
RPI 171, SOS 262 - Charlotte, 6-2, last week: RPI 123, SOS 215
RPI 224, SOS 281 - Southern Mississippi, 5-2, last week: RPI 269, SOS 321
RPI 232, RPI 281 - South Florida, 4-4, last week: RPI 225, RPI 284
RPI 263, SOS 171 - Saint Louis, 2-7, last week: RPI 215, SOS 85
RPI 329, SOS 327 - Tulane, 2-4, last week: RPI 318, SOS 311

Atlantic 10 Conference
RPI rank 14, SOS rank 3; last week: RPI rank 12, SOS rank: 3
Non conference record 35-53; last week 31-47 vs. Division 1

RPI 8, SOS 14 - George Washington, 7-1
RPI 37, SOS 21 - Richmond, 4-3
RPI 58, SOS 3 - Temple, 3-5
RPI 90, SOS 58 - Saint Joseph’s, 3-3
RPI 94, SOS 65 - Massachusetts, 4-3
RPI 129, SOS 112 - Dayton, 4-3
RPI 174, SOS 129 - Fordham, 3-4
RPI 187, SOS 98 - Xavier, 2-4
RPI 242, SOS 128 - Rhode Island, 2-6
RPI 247, SOS 142 - Duquesne, 2-8
RPI 297, SOS 193 - La Salle, 1-6
RPI 326, SOS 276 - Saint Bonaventure, 0-7

Just for reference, here are our final RPI and SOS since the 199-2000 season…
1999-2000 – 17-15; RPI 57, SOS 14
2000-2001 – 21-10; RPI 48, SOS 77
2001-2002 – 18-11; RPI 35, SOS 16
2002-2003 – 13–16; RPI 95, SOS 41
2003-2004 – 21-8; RPI 34, SOS 58

Should we be concerned here ? Looks like the teams we play coming up have poor RPIs also, is this normal for this early in the season ?

[i]Originally posted by amnesiac[/i]@Dec 20 2004, 11:27 AM [b] Should we be concerned here ? Looks like the teams we play coming up have poor RPIs also, is this normal for this early in the season ? [/b]
When your RPI drops 48 spots and you didn't lose you should be very concerned... I will say it now, if we lose to Indiana we will not make the NCAA's.
[i]Originally posted by Jimmyhat49er[/i]@Dec 20 2004, 10:41 AM [b] When your RPI drops 48 spots and you didn't lose you should be very concerned... I will say it now, if we lose to Indiana we will not make the NCAA's. [/b]
Agree completely.

Our OOC schedule this year left us no room for mistakes and we’ve made 2. Losing the AZ series really hurt us.

We’re going to have win out our OOC schedule and drop no more than 3 in conference to be guranteed a NCAA birth in my opinion. The RPI numbers just aren’t shaping up like they should for us to be able to make it with less. And other than Cincy no other conference team is doing what it will take to get our conference RPI up above 6 or 7 from what I can tell.

Hopefully the numbers will shake out better if we win at IU and then win out.

[i]Originally posted by Jimmyhat49er+Dec 20 2004, 10:41 AM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (Jimmyhat49er @ Dec 20 2004, 10:41 AM)

eh nevermind.

It concerns me because I don’t see C-USA’s numbers moving up, they fell 2 spots in this week’s conference rankings. Last season one team finished with an RPI of over 200, right now the conference has four and the 49ers are not far from it either. Thank goodness we only play Tulane once, they are 329 and lead only Army in the RPI rankings.

Last year’s final C-USA RPI and SOS numbers to compare with the above…

RPI 11, SOS 23, Cincinnati, 24-6
RPI 24, SOS 16 Louisville, 20-9
RPI 32, SOS 65, Memphis, 21-7
RPI 33, SOS 35, Alabama Birmingham, 20-9
RPI 34, SOS 58, Charlotte, 21-8
RPI 37, SOS 51, DePaul, 21-9
RPI 64, SOS 50, Saint Louis, 18-12
RPI 83, SOS 76, Marquette, 16-11
RPI 115, SOS 129, East Carolina, 12-14
RPI 120, SOS 49, Texas Christian, 12-17
RPI 123, SOS 71, Southern Mississippi, 12-15
RPI 181, SOS 106, Tulane, 10-17
RPI 187, SOS 86, Houston, 9-18
RPI 222, SOS 94, South Florida, 7-20

I don’t like our position so far either. There are several teams playing tough OOC scedules this year and doing much better with them than we are against our weak one.

I really hope our RPI improves, cause if it does not conference play is going to bring a lot more pressure.

Allowing teams to play non-Division I teams doesn’t help (the C-USA) RPI either. Every game should count IMO.

East Carolina – Belmont Abbey
Louisville – BYU Hawaii, Chaminade (due to losing)
Marquette – South Dakota State
South Florida – Grand Canyon
Southern Mississippi – Colorado Colorado Springs, Spring Hill
Texas Christian - Shawnee State
Tulane – Loyola New Orleans

We need to continue to win on the road, that will help. But the conference games are not going to help us as much as in the past.

Win AT Indiana is probably more important than beating Indiana, if that makes any sense.

The conference should madate that you can’t play non division 1 team(Chaminade being the only exception) The conference RPI is so terrible, there is non way to get it up this year. There really won’t be many “quality” win in conference because everyone has such a bad RPI. WHen you compare last year to this year it is terrible. Who would have thought that beating TCU would be so important???

HP, you can scratch Marquette from that list. South Dakota State is one of several schools playing their first season as Division I.

You guys are forgetting past opponents RPI. I agree that RPI is a reason for concern, but the quickest way for it to improve is through an opponents record. When/if La-La, Ga State, UNCA, Davidson, etc start to win games in their leagues, after taking it on the chin from the majors, our RPI will improve even if we don’t play another game.

The concerning thing is the next three games will be against teams with losing records, which could drive the RPI number down even more. Even if we had beaten Rutgers and Alabama, we may not have been in top 100. 2 more wins and the CURRENT RPI of the teams we’ve played may not have been enough.

Of course we need to WIN, and teams we have beaten need to win their conferences. It’s definitely a uphill battle from here.