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[QUOTE=DownwithNBA;221451]Man, the only thing worse than being cincinatti in the big east right now was being william and mary in the socon in the roaring 20ās. I know it was all pasty guys and the center was tall at 6ā5" but still, UNC, NCSU, Duke, Florida, Tenn, Alabama, Vanderbilt, GW, Maryland, Virginia, VT, put these teams in a conference together and i guaruntee that even the best pac 10 team couldnāt get to .500, 23 skiddo![/QUOTE]
But the landscape of college basketball was different then. W & M may have been the team to beat in the conference for some of those years. Many solid programs from that era are no longer that great today. Even San Francisco has 2 national titles. Back then, small private schools had a fairer chance to compete and there were fewer large public schools.
[QUOTE=Over40NINER;221457]But the landscape of college basketball was different then. W & M may have been the team to beat in the conference for some of those years. Many solid programs from that era are no longer that great today. Even San Francisco has 2 national titles. Back then, small private schools had a fairer chance to compete and there were fewer large public schools.[/QUOTE]
yes i realize the golden days of the san fran dons and all the wonder and glory of a george mikan, 6-10 man with glasses tearing up the floor. I was simply referring to what a ridiculous conference that would be today, at least 10 ncaa bids, hence that is why i said the players would be all pasty, it was segregated in the 20ās, and the center would be a towering 6ā5" on average. Hell larry miller, star forward for the heels in the 60ās was 6ā3".
Sorry to contribute to the hijacking of this thread, but back to the Southern Conference, hereās a snapshot of the conference in 1929:
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Florida[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1922-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Washington & Lee (1921-1958), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]South Carolina[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1922-1953), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Tennessee[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Tulane (1922-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]University of the South (1922-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Vanderbilt (1922-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Virginia[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1937), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]VMI (1924-2003), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]North Carolina[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]State[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1953), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Maryland[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1953), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Mississippi[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1922-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Mississippi[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]State[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]North Carolina[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1953), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Georgia Tech (1921-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Kentucky[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Louisiana[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]State[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1922-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Georgia[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Clemson (1921-1953), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Alabama[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Auburn[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] (1921-1932), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Duke (1928-1953),[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Virginia Tech (1921-1965), [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Iām not that great a counter, but thatās 23 teams. Iām sure it would be difficult for everyone to play eachother. Iād bet that they had a rather loose affiliation back then. Anyone old enough to clarify?[/FONT][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=austinniner;221495] Anyone old enough to clarify?[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
lol I dont think we have too many 80+ year old posters 
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Each team plays three games in three days next November at the University of the Virgin Islands Sports and Fitness Center on St. Thomas.I hope St. Thomas has a casino.
my grandfather graduated from davidson, so my father knew a lot about what was going on there - and a few months ago when we had our davidson game he was talking about how great they used to be. Apparently davidson ran real strong back in the day - and he mentioned the ACC when he was talking to me about it, so i believe those ārumorsā are true.
[QUOTE=austinniner;221495]ā¦Iām not that great a counter, but thatās 23 teams. Iām sure it would be difficult for everyone to play eachother. Iād bet that they had a rather loose affiliation back then. Anyone old enough to clarify?[/QUOTE]
Good point. I guess the conference systems meant something different than it does now.
University of the South (D-III) and Washington and Lee (D-II or III) have sure slipped.
[QUOTE=run49er;221429]
As I posted recently, the A-10 is going to re-visit the ā3-school partnerā scheme, so the Charlotte home-and-away versus Dayton, GW, and Richmond will change.
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Elaborate please or direct me to another thread where this was discussed alreadyā¦
I hope we keep home and home vs. GW. I think it would be a mistake to rotate the home and away seriesā to different teams. I think we have a little bit of a rivalry going with those three schools.
EDIT:
[QUOTE]NEW PARTNERS - Since expanding to 14 teams last year, each Atlantic 10 team plays 10 schools once and three twice during the regular season. Which teams meet twice has been somewhat determined by rivalries and geographic factors.
Commissioner Linda Bruno said the league plans to change the pairings for next season.
āWe are going to change it. We committed to it for two years and now weāre going to look at it again,ā Bruno said. āWe want to start to look at matching our top teams with our top teams. That will be who plays twice. Itās not going to be an exact science ā¦ TV will play into it too, because thereās some games they will want.ā[/QUOTE]
I found this in another thread. http://www.ninernation.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15533
It looks like we could still get a home and home with GW at least since we are sort of one of the best teams and I am sure geogrpahy will still play some role. I hope we will will home and home with them anyway since I am moving to DC upon graduation.
[QUOTE=lutz9er;221554]It looks like we could still get a home and home with GW at least [B]since we are sort of one of the best teams[/B] and I am sure geogrpahy will still play some role.[/QUOTE]
What are you smoking?
What are you smoking?
ummm its a kyle response i kind of stop wondering what he will say and just expect anything.
Elaborate please or direct me to another thread where this was discussed already....I hope we keep home and home vs. GW. I think it would be a mistake to rotate the home and away seriesā to different teams. I think we have a little bit of a rivalry going with those three schools.
EDIT:
I found this in another thread. http://www.ninernation.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15533
It looks like we could still get a home and home with GW at least since we are sort of one of the best teams and I am sure geogrpahy will still play some role. I hope we will will home and home with them anyway since I am moving to DC upon graduation.
congrats on getting engaged by the way. iām happy for you :toast:
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[QUOTE=zerogeneticsdc1;221548]my grandfather graduated from davidson, so my father knew a lot about what was going on there - and a few months ago when we had our davidson game he was talking about how great they used to be. Apparently davidson ran real strong back in the day - and he mentioned the ACC when he was talking to me about it, so i believe those ārumorsā are true.[/QUOTE]
Davidsonās heyday in college hoops was during Lefty Driesellās tenure as coach there, which was during the 1960s. The Cats made it to the Elite 8 in 1969, losing to Chapel Hole 87-85. After that season, Lefty was hired by Maryland. Since the ACC was formed in the early 50s, Iām going to have to have more āproofā that Davidson was ever even considered for membership.
[QUOTE=HP49er;221614]What are you smoking?[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing!
Davidson's heyday in college hoops was during Lefty Driesell's tenure as coach there, which was during the 1960s. The Cats made it to the Elite 8 in 1969, losing to Chapel Hole 87-85. After that season, Lefty was hired by Maryland. Since the ACC was formed in the early 50s, I'm going to have to have more "proof" that Davidson was ever even considered for membership.
Whatās Lefty doing now? I remember he went to coach at Georgia State (and subsequently beat us his first year there when we played them). But, I donāt think heās coaching there anymore.
Lutz was on WFNZ this morning (very good interview, btw) and said next yearās schedule will be the most challenging Out of conference schedule since heās been here. :wow:
Lutz was on WFNZ this morning (very good interview, btw) and said next year's schedule will be the most challenging Out of conference schedule since he's been here. :wow:
Wonder if thatās because the teams we will be playing will be better than the ones before or if our new team will present even more āchallengesā than this year.
[QUOTE=NinerATL2CHA;221676]Whatās Lefty doing now? I remember he went to coach at Georgia State (and subsequently beat us his first year there when we played them). But, I donāt think heās coaching there anymore.[/QUOTE]
Lefty retired in 2003. Michael Perry has been coaching there since.
[QUOTE=NinerATL2CHA;221680]Wonder if thatās because the teams we will be playing will be better than the ones before or if our new team will present even more āchallengesā than this year.[/QUOTE]
The OOC teams (if the contracts are signed) will most definitely be the toughest from top to bottom heās ever had to prepare for. No one can complain about the quality of the schedule, or the fact that the schedule will have a stong local flavor.
[QUOTE=NinerATL2CHA;221676]Whatās Lefty doing now? I remember he went to coach at Georgia State (and subsequently beat us his first year there when we played them). But, I donāt think heās coaching there anymore.[/QUOTE]
We never played Georgia State while Lefty was their coach.
BTW, when Lefty āretiredā in mid-season during the 2002-03 year, he was ony 14 games shy of the 800-win mark (786-394).
[QUOTE=HP49er;221614]What are you smoking?[/QUOTE]
Thanks Dax.
What am I smoking? Nothing. Charlotte has consistently performed in the top eschelon of the A-10, so I wanted to say we are one of the best teams, but that sounds arrogant when you are 6-8, so I said sort of. We are destined to be one of the top in the future, therefore being a logical fit for a 1 and 1 with GW, but saying we are one of the best teams felt weird at 6-8.
Maybe I should have said one of the best programs??? You get my point anyway.