Looking at our team FT% since Lutz has been here I see an awful trend.
99/00 70.5% team ft% (Including Diego, Jobey and an 80% Tramain Gardner)
00/01 68.5%
01/02 70.8%
02/03 63.4%
03/04 64.9%
04/05 60.1%
That is terrible. When we are constantly bad I have to look at the coach and ask what the heck are you doing?
If you go back 3-5 years you’ll see even better FT % numbers.
But then go back and compare our recruiting to what we have now. The trend is directly opposite.
We do need to find a different approach to practicing fundamentals though. It’s broken, and requires a fix.
[i]Originally posted by s9er[/i]@Dec 6 2004, 11:22 AM [b] Looking at our team FT% since Lutz has been here I see an awful trend.99/00 70.5% team ft% (Including Diego, Jobey and an 80% Tramain Gardner)
00/01 68.5%
01/02 70.8%
02/03 63.4%
03/04 64.9%
04/05 60.1%That is terrible. When we are constantly bad I have to look at the coach and ask what the heck are you doing? [/b]
Just like every other aspect of the game, free throw shooting is a “coachable” action. I believe coach when he says the guys are really trying hard or are practicing very hard, but what if they are practicing the wrong thing ? It all comes down to fundamentals, concentration, and mechanics.
I wish Lutz would bring in an outside specialist who could help each player with his free throw shooting (mechanics, release, posture, concentration, etc.). It doesn’t do any good to just shoot free throw after free throw at the end of practice if all aspects of the shot aren’t being practiced properly.
Make Plavich step back to right in front of the 3-pt line. That should help him tremendously.
The kids we used to recruit had limited athletic ability and strong fundamentals. Now, the opposite is true.
NA is correct, today’s players are athletes, not players and are no where close to being as fundamentally sound as players were even 10 years ago.
[i]Originally posted by NinerAdvocate[/i]@Dec 6 2004, 11:46 AM [b] The kids we used to recruit had limited athletic ability and strong fundamentals. Now, the opposite is true. [/b]Sad but very true.
I talked to Mitchell Baldwin once this summer and he said he was working out with Henry Williams. Perhaps they worked on his FT shooting b/c he is much improved. If that’s the case, then it would be great if Lutz could get Henry to work with the whole team.
Henry was an excellent free throw shooter. Stangely, a lot of our guards have not been good at the line.
Here are some FT numbers for the team’s leading scorer over the years. Note that these players may not have been the best foul shooter for that season, just scoring leaders of that season. For the most part, I believe you could say that they would’ve been near the top though. I was surprised that Dinkins was not a better FT shooter. DeMarco improved over his career from the line.
1967-68 Jerry Anthony, F – 70 of 120 .583
1968-69 Ben Basinger, C – 58 of 97, .598
1969-70 Norris Dae, F – 72 of 116, .679
1970-71 Norris Dae, F – 82-114, .719
1971-72 Robert Earl Blue, F – 148 of 191, .775
1972-73 Robert Earl Blue, F – 134 of 170, .788
1973-74 Robert Earl Blue, F – 74 of 95, .778
1974-75 George Jackson, G – 94 of 115, .817
1975-76 Lew Massey, F – 91 of 118, .771
1976-77 Cedric Maxwell, C – 202 of 263, .768
1977-78 Lew Massey, F – 102 of 134, .761
1978-79 Chad Kinch, G – 100 of 129, .775
1979-80 Chad Kinch, G – 87 of 110, .791
1980-81 Phil Ward, G – 72 of 112, .688
1981-82 Bobby Potts, F – 134 of 164, .817
1982-83 Melvin Johnson, F – 111 of 140, .792
1983-84 Melvin Johnson, F – 103 of 137, .752
1984-85 Clinton Hinton, F – 135 of 180, .750
1985-86 Michael Milling, F – 60 of 84, .714
1986-87 Byron Dinkins, G – 64 of 92, .696
1987-88 Byron Dinkins, G – 100 of 137, .730
1988-89 Byron Dinkins, G – 73 of 112, .652
1989-90 Henry Williams, G – 128 of 154, .831
1990-91 Henry Williams, G – 125 of 150, .833
1991-92 Henry Williams, G – 146 of 178, .820
1992-93 Jarvis Lang, F – 125 of 188, .665
1993-94 Jarvis Lang, F – 125 of 168, 744
1994-95 Jarvis Lang, F – 128 of 169, .757
1995-96 DeMarco Johnson, F – 109 of 164, .605
1996-97 DeMarco Johnson, F – 181 of 229, .790
1997-98 DeMarco Johnson, F – 159 of 204, .779
1998-99 Galen Young, G/F – 136 of 194, .701
1999-00 Jobey Thomas, G – 43 of 54, .796
2000-01 Rodney White, F – 114 of 160, .713
2001-02 Jobey Thomas, G – 98 of 109, .899
2002-03 Demon Brown, G – 34 of 57, .596
2003-04 Curtis Withers, F – 136 of 198, .687
By comparison, so far this season Withers is 11 of 24, .458. Baldwin and Drayton are the only two players shooting above 75% from the line.
[i]Originally posted by HP49er[/i]@Dec 6 2004, 12:29 PM [b] 1981-82 Bobby Potts, F – 134 of 164, .817 1982-83 Melvin Johnson, F – 111 of 140, .792 1983-84 Melvin Johnson, F – 103 of 137, .752 1984-85 Clinton Hinton, F – 135 of 180, .750 1985-86 Michael Milling, F – 60 of 84, .714 [/b][font=Times][SIZE=3]WHO????[/font][/SIZE]
Mike Pratt and Hal Wissel, you two ROCK. :rolleyes:
[i]Originally posted by BofANiner[/i]@Dec 6 2004, 11:40 AM [b] Just like every other aspect of the game, free throw shooting is a "coachable" action. [/b]I disagree. The Lakers brought in how many specialists to help Shaq with his free throw shooting. They even had then GM Jerry West, the best free throw shooter in the history of the NBA work with him. If free throw shooting is coachable, then Shaq would be the best free throw shooter in the NBA.
[b]I talked to Mitchell Baldwin once this summer and he said he was working out with Henry Williams. Perhaps they worked on his FT shooting b/c he is much improved. If that's the case, then it would be great if Lutz could get Henry to work with the whole team. [/b]
Mitch also said in the postgame that he worked with his Dad on free throw shooting on Saturday morning, and he seemed to have found something that worked.
[i]Originally posted by Smoothieking+Dec 6 2004, 01:53 PM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (Smoothieking @ Dec 6 2004, 01:53 PM)
Why bring in a specialist? Use Sager to help the guys. He is ice water on the line.
[i]Originally posted by 49erFan1[/i]@Dec 6 2004, 02:05 PM [b] Use Sager.... [/b]Sager should have been in there for that reason in any late-game situation. I know he's not shot many FTs in his Charlotte career (22 of 24, 91.7%) but I'll take my chances with him holding the ball until proven otherwise.
I guess the only reason I suggested bringing someone in from the outside is maybe they can spot something about our players shooting mechanics, etc. that our coaches for whatever reason just are not seeing.
Heck, it certainly wouldn’t hurt as nothing else seems to be working…
These numbers aren’t good, dead last in the conference in free throw shooting.
Cincinnati, .761, 86 of 113
Marquette, .750, 129 of 179
South Florida, .743, 101 of 136
Louisville, .710, 98 of 138
Saint Louis, .700, 42 of 60
DePaul, .692, 72 of 104
Southern Mississippi, .691, 103 of 149
Tulane, .685, 50 of 73
Memphis, .682, 107 of 157
Houston, .669, 109 of 163
Alabama Birmingham, .660, 66 of 100
Texas Christian, .617, 79 of 128
East Carolina, .604, 81 of 134
Charlotte, .601, 89 of 148
C-USA Totals, .683, 1212 of 1775
C-USA Opponents, .707, 1104 of 1561
[i]Originally posted by HP49er[/i]@Dec 6 2004, 03:12 PM [b] These numbers aren't good, dead last in the conference in free throw shooting.Cincinnati, .761, 86 of 113
Marquette, .750, 129 of 179
South Florida, .743, 101 of 136
Louisville, .710, 98 of 138
Saint Louis, .700, 42 of 60
DePaul, .692, 72 of 104
Southern Mississippi, .691, 103 of 149
Tulane, .685, 50 of 73
Memphis, .682, 107 of 157
Houston, .669, 109 of 163
Alabama Birmingham, .660, 66 of 100
Texas Christian, .617, 79 of 128
East Carolina, .604, 81 of 134
Charlotte, .601, 89 of 148C-USA Totals, .683, 1212 of 1775
C-USA Opponents, .707, 1104 of 1561 [/b]
Second, although he can’t shoot for them in a game, he can teach proper technique and clearly he is not. I know it has been posted already but we have guys on this team that use a different pre-shot routine everytime to the line. You have no chance with that approach and that is on the Coaching staff.