mitchel is a stud. allstar effort. if he plays like that all year… we are gonna be SCARY.
also his postgame interview on the radio was solid. he sounds like a top quality guy. happy bday baldwin.
I think the question about PG has been answered with AUTHORITAI!!!
[i]Originally posted by Anborn[/i]@Nov 19 2004, 10:50 PM [b] mitchel is a stud. allstar effort. if he plays like that all year.... we are gonna be SCARY.also his postgame interview on the radio was solid. he sounds like a top quality guy. happy bday baldwin. [/b]
I was really impressed by his post game interview. Very well-spoken and you just have to like the guy. Great asset to the university.
But guys, this was LBSU…teams will learn and we’ll have to adjust. He’s not going to get by some of the better guards in C-USA as easily. Coaches like Huggins, Pitino and Crean will find ways to make it difficult.
[i]Originally posted by LeftyNiner[/i]@Nov 20 2004, 12:01 AM [b] But guys, this was LBSU...teams will learn and we'll have to adjust. He's not going to get by some of the better guards in C-USA as easily. Coaches like Huggins, Pitino and Crean will find ways to make it difficult. [/b]Party pooper. OK, we know, but let us have our fun....
[i]Originally posted by LeftyNiner+Nov 20 2004, 12:01 AM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (LeftyNiner @ Nov 20 2004, 12:01 AM) <!--QuoteBegin-Anborn[/i]@Nov 19 2004, 10:50 PM [b] mitchel is a stud. allstar effort. if he plays like that all year.... we are gonna be SCARY. also his postgame interview on the radio was solid. he sounds like a top quality guy. happy bday baldwin. [/b]
But guys, this was LBSU…teams will learn and we’ll have to adjust. He’s not going to get by some of the better guards in C-USA as easily. Coaches like Huggins, Pitino and Crean will find ways to make it difficult. [/b][/quote]
Just like Pitino “adjusted” for him last year?
Lefty, that comment doesn’t even make sense in your world.
And, BTW, the guy guarding Mitchell is regarded as one of the fastest players on the west coast, so there goes the rest of that theory.
RPI, that was dumb. Lefty’s exactly right!
No ones taking anything away from Mitch but the talent level tonihgt was HORRIBLE. That has to be taken into consideration.
That team was 6-21 last season and the guards WERE bad, but Mitch was Mitch. Save the three pointers he did about what I expceted. Great game for him but that team was BAD.
We will need more than 1 assist a game out of him. Just nitpicking though, he played a great game, that two handed slam was nasty.
[i]Originally posted by 82NinerAlum[/i]@Nov 20 2004, 01:23 PM [b] RPI, that was dumb. Lefty's exactly right!No ones taking anything away from Mitch but the talent level tonihgt was HORRIBLE. That has to be taken into consideration.
That team was 6-21 last season and the guards WERE bad, but Mitch was Mitch. Save the three pointers he did about what I expceted. Great game for him but that team was BAD. [/b]
Don’t bother arguing with PI…it’s a waste of time.
If PI likes someone (Mitch, Eddie, Picassos’s) they can do NO wrong…and I mean NO wrong.
If PI does not like someone (Plav, Demon, O’Charley’s) they can do nothing right.
In PI’s world…he is always right and anyone who has a differing opinion is plain stoopid. Accept it and move on. No need to argue. It is what it is.
ALL HAIL PI!!!
[i]Originally posted by KTown49er+Nov 20 2004, 02:57 PM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (KTown49er @ Nov 20 2004, 02:57 PM) <!--QuoteBegin-82NinerAlum[/i]@Nov 20 2004, 01:23 PM [b] RPI, that was dumb. Lefty's exactly right! No ones taking anything away from Mitch but the talent level tonihgt was HORRIBLE. That has to be taken into consideration.
That team was 6-21 last season and the guards WERE bad, but Mitch was Mitch. Save the three pointers he did about what I expceted. Great game for him but that team was BAD. [/b]
Don’t bother arguing with PI…it’s a waste of time.If PI likes someone (Mitch, Eddie, Picassos’s) they can do NO wrong…and I mean NO wrong.
If PI does not like someone (Plav, Demon, O’Charley’s) they can do nothing right.
In PI’s world…he is always right and anyone who has a differing opinion is plain stoopid. Accept it and move on. No need to argue. It is what it is.
ALL HAIL PI!!! [/b][/quote]
Shove it up your a$$ K-Mart. You’re just miserable because you live in that rat-infested town.
And get your facts right before you run your mouth about me.
[i]Originally posted by 82NinerAlum[/i]@Nov 20 2004, 01:23 PM [b] RPI, that was dumb.[/b]
Great comeback.
My name is PI, BTW and your post is a five line contradiction.
[QUOTE=KTown49er,Nov 20 2004, 02:57 PM] [/QUOTE]
Don’t bother arguing with PI…
No need to argue.
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Take you’re own advice K-Clown.
[i]Originally posted by 49erpi[/i]@Nov 20 2004, 10:33 AM [b] Just like Pitino "adjusted" for him last year? Lefty, that comment doesn't even make sense in your world. And, BTW, the guy guarding Mitchell is regarded as one of the fastest players on the west coast, so there goes the rest of that theory. [/b]Mitch scored 13 against UL last year. That's a far cry from the 25 he scored last night.
Second who cares if the guy that was guarding was the fastest in the world, that doesn’t in turn mean he can play a lick of defense. There’s a reason he’s at LBS.
I was as impressed with Mitch last night as anyone. He played fantastic and no one hopes that he can do it all year more than me. But it’s perfectly reasonable to withhold judgement until he plays some better competition.
Wade Helliwell scored 20+ points against Davidson when he was here, how’d he work out for us?
Don’t bother arguing with PI…it’s a waste of time.
If PI likes someone (Mitch, Eddie, Picassos’s) they can do NO wrong…and I mean NO wrong.
If PI does not like someone (Plav, Demon, O’Charley’s) they can do nothing right.
In PI’s world…he is always right and anyone who has a differing opinion is plain stoopid. Accept it and move on. No need to argue. It is what it is.
ALL HAIL PI!!!
Zig Heil!! Zig Heil!!
[i]Originally posted by KTown49er[/i]@Nov 20 2004, 10:08 PM [b] Don't bother arguing with PI...it's a waste of time.If PI likes someone (Mitch, Eddie, Picassos’s) they can do NO wrong…and I mean NO wrong.
If PI does not like someone (Plav, Demon, O’Charley’s) they can do nothing right.
In PI’s world…he is always right and anyone who has a differing opinion is plain stoopid. Accept it and move on. No need to argue. It is what it is.
ALL HAIL PI!!!
Zig Heil!! Zig Heil!! [/b]
K-Clown, You should upgrade to Gastonia before running that lame smack. Baby steps.
[i]Originally posted by MKNiner+Nov 20 2004, 08:54 PM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (MKNiner @ Nov 20 2004, 08:54 PM) <!--QuoteBegin-49erpi[/i]@Nov 20 2004, 10:33 AM [b] Just like Pitino "adjusted" for him last year? Lefty, that comment doesn't even make sense in your world. And, BTW, the guy guarding Mitchell is regarded as one of the fastest players on the west coast, so there goes the rest of that theory. [/b] Mitch scored 13 against UL last year. That's a far cry from the 25 he scored last night. Second who cares if the guy that was guarding was the fastest in the world, that doesn’t in turn mean he can play a lick of defense. There’s a reason he’s at LBS.
I was as impressed with Mitch last night as anyone. He played fantastic and no one hopes that he can do it all year more than me. But it’s perfectly reasonable to withhold judgement until he plays some better competition.
Wade Helliwell scored 20+ points against Davidson when he was here, how’d he work out for us? [/b][/quote]
Mitch’s point total from that Louiville game means nothing. Anyone who knows basketball and watched that game knows how great his effort was. He is the first player that I can remember that forced Pitino to call off the full court press. Do you remember any opponent or, one single player for that matter, that dictated how Pitino would trap?What does Helliwell have to do with anything? Mitchell was the NC player of the year and has shown he has amazing athletic ability and ridiculous speed. He worked hard in the off season to get back his outside shot and it seems to be paying off. Don’t compare him to a talentless hack, this transformation into a impact player has been expected by many who know more than you or I and is by no means a mistake like Heliwell.
I don’t think anyone should expect him to shoot lights out every night and go for 25 but what you can expect is a guy that can hurt the opponent in a variety of ways and will make life difficult on opposing coaches. This is a well rounded point guard.
[b]Anyone who knows basketball and watched that game knows how great his effort was. [/b]
I don’t think you saw say different did you? I merely drew the comparison to validate Lefty’s opinion to taper our expectations until we see him against some tougher competition.
[b]What does Helliwell have to do with anything?[/b]
I was drawing the illustration that there are many times we’ve seen players go lights out against inferior competition and then never be heard from again, ala Helliwell. The fact is Mitch lit up inferior competition on Friday night and it’s not unreasonable, or stupid, or moronic or any other adjective you’d like to assign to it, to say let’s guard our expectations of Mitch until we see him against better competition. Not to do so isn’t fair to him.
[b]this transformation into a impact player has been expected by [b]many who know more than you or I[/b][/b]
Such people exist? :o
[b]I don't think anyone should expect him to shoot lights out every night and go for 25[/b]
I believe that was the point Lefty was making before you jumped his case.
sure teams will adjust, the fact is when we see teams like marquette and louisville, mitch isnt going to be our leading scorer, against rutgers he probably wont be, offense (scoringwise) is run through plavich and withers for the most part. I was more impressed with the things that we expect mitch to do (control tempo, burn people to the hole, play D) it was great that he has developed a shot, and can score 25. this isnt the last bad set of guards we will see, there will be some teams with good front courts and bad backcourts, for those we’ll need such performances from mitch. i am just happy to see that he could possibly be a weapon in the future.
do i expect it everynight? No.
Do i hope he scores 25 every game? yes, if we win and its b/c thats the offense bobby needs to run.
Do i think it will happen? No.
[i]Originally posted by MKNiner[/i]@Nov 21 2004, 12:47 PM [b][b]Anyone who knows basketball and watched that game knows how great his effort was. [/b]I don’t think you saw say different did you? I merely drew the comparison to validate Lefty’s opinion to taper our expectations until we see him against some tougher competition.
[b]What does Helliwell have to do with anything?[/b]I was drawing the illustration that there are many times we’ve seen players go lights out against inferior competition and then never be heard from again, ala Helliwell. The fact is Mitch lit up inferior competition on Friday night and it’s not unreasonable, or stupid, or moronic or any other adjective you’d like to assign to it, to say let’s guard our expectations of Mitch until we see him against better competition. Not to do so isn’t fair to him.
[b]this transformation into a impact player has been expected by [b]many who know more than you or I[/b][/b]Such people exist? :o
[b]I don't think anyone should expect him to shoot lights out every night and go for 25[/b]I believe that was the point Lefty was making before you jumped his case. [/b]
And my point is that you and Lefty are both naive if you think point total has anything to do with whether or not a college point guard is effective. Stating that “Helliwell scored 20 one night”, in comparision to Mitchell’s game, is completely irrelevant unless you are going to add that he played lock down man defense, solid team defense, dictated the game tempo, forced the opponent out of their full court pressure, ran the half court offense and dominated the floor in transition. Otherwise your comparision is is absurd.
How about we agree to disagree because this horse is dead and Rutgers tomorrow will be a good early season test for Mitch.
[i]Originally posted by 49erpi[/i]@Nov 21 2004, 09:52 PM [b] And my point is that you and Lefty are both naive if you think point total has anything to do with whether or not a college point guard is effective. [/b]And I think your reading comprehension skills are highly suspect if you can pick that assertion out of anything Lefty or I said. Show me once where either of us stated that Mitch's point total had anything to do with whether or not he was effective.
I’m not speaking for Lefty but my point, and I think his as well, was we shouldn’t expect those kinds of numbers from Mitch night in and night out. Never once did Mitch’s effectiveness enter the conversation.
[b]How about we agree to disagree because this horse is dead and Rutgers tomorrow will be a good early season test for Mitch. [/b]
I don’t think we are in disagreement at all. I think you were looking for one when you came on here and conveniently found it by taking our comments further than we ever intended.
In fact, I think you did a fine job summing up my point when you said,
[b]I don't think anyone should expect him to shoot lights out every night and go for 25[/b]
[i]Originally posted by 49erpi[/i]@Nov 21 2004, 09:52 PM [b] How about we agree to disagree because this horse is dead and Rutgers tomorrow will be a good early season test for Mitch. [/b]I agree with that. Much different than your first rebuttal, though.
And regarding Pitino, if he knew how fast and effective Mitch is at breaking a press…before the game, I think he would have made adjustments. Remember how Plavich hit 10 threes against Syracuse because they didn’t respect him. Teams will take things away. Mitchell and teammates will need to adjust. Fortunately this year, we won’t have to depend on only two or three guys to score.