[i]Originally posted by TheShowDawg[/i]@Nov 30 2004, 10:59 PM [b] Grier looks like Princess Lea, Snoop Dogg, and Busta Rhymes had a three way and 9 months later out popped Vincent Grier. [/b]:lol: So true...
[i]Originally posted by forDniner[/i]@Dec 1 2004, 12:20 PM [b] most of the time he just went straight to the rim, but he did hit one three and almost hit another. He really started to cool off in the second half when he wasn't able to get to the rim and had problems with his mid-range jumper. I remember him shooting under 40% from the ft line his one year here, he was 4 - 5 from the line last night. [/b]He was 3/5 from 3pt range. 8/16 overall.
[i]Originally posted by forDniner[/i]@Dec 1 2004, 12:20 PM [b] most of the time he just went straight to the rim, but he did hit one three and almost hit another. He really started to cool off in the second half when he wasn't able to get to the rim and had problems with his mid-range jumper. I remember him shooting under 40% from the ft line his one year here, he was 4 - 5 from the line last night. [/b][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=243350135]Boxscore[/url]
Actually he was 3-5 from 3. He was 8-16 in 38 minutes. He was the go to guy for his team. His jumper still looked ugly but more went in. He also threw up some crazy stuff when he drove to the basket. They played zone primarily but when they went man, he often lost his guy and didnāt fight through picks. I guess he figured he was doing his part on the offensive end.
Remember Anthony Morrow. He was 2-4 in 11 minutes last night in GTās blowout. Both were threes. He will win a bunch of games but be a role player for most of his career.
[i]Originally posted by LutzFan+Dec 1 2004, 12:25 PM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (LutzFan @ Dec 1 2004, 12:25 PM)
[i]Originally posted by LeftyNiner[/i]@Dec 1 2004, 12:35 PM [b] Remember Anthony Morrow. He was 2-4 in 11 minutes last night in GT's blowout. Both were threes. He will win a bunch of games but be a role player for most of his career. [/b]Lefty, what's your point? I don't agree with your role-player assessment. He'll be getting 25 minutes next year, probably.
[i]Originally posted by Mike_Persinger+Dec 1 2004, 01:20 PM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (Mike_Persinger @ Dec 1 2004, 01:20 PM)
[i]Originally posted by LeftyNiner+Dec 1 2004, 01:29 PM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (LeftyNiner @ Dec 1 2004, 01:29 PM)
Mr Persinger I belive what Lefty is saying that Anthony would have been utilized much differently here at Charlotte than he is at GA Tech. If he was a Niner, we would include him in the majority of the offense, but at GA Tech, he will most likely not be the key to the offense, not because he is bad, but because we have a differnet offense than they do. I could be wrong tho, anyways I wish Anthony the best of luck in his career at GT
That whole team is filled with could/should have been Niners: Tarver, Morrow, Jack, etc. They made their choice, and I respect them. I may even root for them. But I do agree that Morrow would have had more PT here.
It hurt hearing Majerus saying he was from Charlotte. 
BTW - that was a great win for GT, but it also demosntrated that michigan cant shoot worth a lick. GT played man most of the night, but still packed it in and dared the Wolverines to beat them from outside. Only that one guy (Harris?) could. On offense, they tore up Michiganās man, and damn can they finish in transition & on motion plays, but Michiganās zone almost let them get back into the game until Elder started going off.
In praise of them thoug, I wish weād play a little more like GT. I wish Iti would be our Schenscher and i wish we had a ball handling floor general as dominant as Jack. We have some really talented players, but I donāt think we have a finisher as assertive as Muhammed & Jack & a single guard as dynamic as Elder. I also love how they get after it on defense and play as a team. Hewitt has made these guys super unselfish. Itās hard not to like them.
[i]Originally posted by LeftyNiner+Dec 1 2004, 02:29 PM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (LeftyNiner @ Dec 1 2004, 02:29 PM)
[i]Originally posted by Mike_Persinger[/i]@Dec 1 2004, 02:52 PM [b] And they're picked FOURTH in the conference, behind three schools from the Carolinas. [/b]In all honesty, I'll be shocked if they finish that low. The only things I haven't seen from them yet is the ability (or the need, so far) to defend the perimeter or a dominant big man. The ACC has lots of good 3 pt shooters but very few big men. It's becoming a model of a 3G team league. GT should fare well with the three guards they have.
I do not know how Morrowās career will turn out. I do know that G Tech is now signing top 10 recruits because of recent success and the ACC name. I also realize that a player in different systems could have totally different careers. All that being said, yes I would take a role player from G Tech (pure shooter) to go in Lutzās system. We are not replacing High school AAās with High School AAās year after year like the top 10 teams from the ACC. If Morrow signed at Charlotte I doubt we would have recruited another starting type 2 guard till he was ready to move on or graduate. I doubt G Tech could say the same.
You have to be realistic abouit our recruiting (I want players like Withers year in and year out) but until we break thru to that next level we have been talking about for a while now those players are hard to come by.
The badmouthing of the ACC boils down to one arguement. The Observer says it is a regional paper and must cover it and Charlotte fans say we are the hometown team and should take preference. Bottom line is the ACC conference is a 900 pound gorilla with a marketing machine (media) that is second to none and is always pushing forward.
I do not know about Morrow starting next year. The Fredrick kid will require a lot of shots and PT next yeat and I believe he is a freshman.
[i]Originally posted by TheShowDawg[/i]@Dec 1 2004, 02:27 PM [b] I do not know how Morrow's career will turn out. I do know that G Tech is now signing top 10 recruits because of recent success and the ACC name. I also realize that a player in different systems could have totally different careers. All that being said, yes I would take a role player from G Tech (pure shooter) to go in Lutz's system. We are not replacing High school AA's with High School AA's year after year like the top 10 teams from the ACC. If Morrow signed at Charlotte I doubt we would have recruited another starting type 2 guard till he was ready to move on or graduate. I doubt G Tech could say the same.[/b]
Mike, exactly what ShowDawg is saying here and what chisox says above. Different system and we donāt have a team of top 40ās. Morrow would be one of the go-to guys. At GT, heāll be one of the pieces.
And I think GT will finish in the top 2 in the ACC.
Can someone change the subject line to āwhat ifā. 
[i]Originally posted by TheShowDawg[/i]@Dec 1 2004, 03:33 PM [b] I do not know about Morrow starting next year. The Fredrick kid will require a lot of shots and PT next yeat and I believe he is a freshman. [/b]Murrow has looked much better then Fredrick and Fredrick will probably have to play PG with Murrow being a shooting guard.
Not to split hairs about your earlier post, but GT hasnāt had a top 10 kid since Chris Bosh. They have actually had tremendous success with kid who where not highly recruited. Jack was top 50, but Elder wasnāt highly rated, nor was Schensher, Muhammad or Mchenry. This year class consists of Murrow(rated 50 to 150), Fredrick(Rated 100), Dickey(Rated 50 range) and Smith (rated 75 range). They highest rated kid they signed this year is Lewis Clinch rated 50th.
I think you have to know what and who you are and I would be more than happy to go thru the ACC and pull one man a team from their benchesā¦especially this year. What ACC schools did Curtis get offers from?
I never have understood why a kid would want to sit on the end of a top 10 teams bench when he could go and play and possibly bloom somewhere else. Whether it was Curt for us or Greer for Minn. I think they made good decisions.
[i]Originally posted by JKniner[/i]@Dec 1 2004, 02:49 PM [b]I never have understood why a kid would want to sit on the end of a top 10 teams bench when he could go and play and possibly bloom somewhere else. Whether it was Curt for us or Greer for Minn. I think they made good decisions.[/b]That is what baffles me. I just don't understand how a kid can choose to sit on the bench of a top 10 school when there are probably 10-20 schools in the top 40 in the country who are interested in signing them and making them 3 or 4 year starters. A top 10 school may have a better record as far as sending players to the NBA, but how is their record on sending their bench players to the NBA? It becomes even more mind boggling when a guy like A. Gee chooses Alabama, a team loaded in the backcourt and who hasn't been better than us over the past few years(with the obvious exception of their NCAA run last season), when we are offering him 3 years minimum starting and he will be THE guy on our team by his sophomore year.
And thereās no real statistical backing to going to a top 10 school. Looking at 2004ās NBA draft, for every Duke or UConn player picked, there is a Colorado, Nevada or Minnesota player picked in the first round. Playing in a major conference(a top 10 conference) will get you some exposure, no matter who itās for. If you can goto a Minnesota team and be the man, paddinig all of your stats and showing off all of your skills, you have a 100 time better shot getting drafted than if you set on Dukeās bench for 3 years.
I guess there are a lot more politics that go into recruiting though, but when the choice comes down to 3/4 years starting at a top 40 team or 3/4 years on the bench at a top 20 school, I donāt really understand how so many guys choose the top 20.
Thatās the end of my rant :mellow:
[i]Originally posted by Butter49er+Dec 1 2004, 04:07 PM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (Butter49er @ Dec 1 2004, 04:07 PM)
ā¦but you donāt develope your game sitting on the benchā¦
game situations are different from practice