clt provides more UNC CHeat scandal.

[quote=“NinerAdvocate, post:539, topic:28477”]Wow…

Former UNC CH basketball player (played for Dean Smith), Morehead scholar, andUNCCH Law School grad says fire everyone, including dadgum Roy.

With all due respect to men’s basketball coach Roy Williams, it is not about whether the “kids tried to do the right thing.” The problem is not what the “kids” did, but rather what the “adults” allowed, helped and even directed the kids to do.

Deflecting the attention to the “kids” is just an escape mechanism to deflect responsibility off the adults. The really sad part is that this deflection has been present for a long time. We have aided and abetted academic fraud.

•All non-clerical staff of any individual sports program in which any players were enrolled in any phony AFAM classes should be replaced. That includes all head and assistant coaches. They have succumbed to the disease of performance over academics that has led to the loss of all credibility, outside the community of the fanatic boosters of their respective or collective sports.

Donald P. Eggleston is a member of the UNC-Chapel Hill Class of 1971. He was a John Motley Morehead Scholar, a basketball letterman under Dean Smith (1967-71) and received his law degree from UNC in 1974.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/11/24/4350509_a-call-for-strong-action-at-unc.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

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He’s just mad because they did not have fake classes when he was in school and he had to go to class.

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Oh wow… trying to find some confirmation that this is true… if so… wow…

mrwufabc wrote: I don't know how to post .JPG on here so I can't post my FOIA reply but in short..

It says that the information regarding the criminal investigation can not be released. I called to confirm that there was indeed a criminal investigation underway and they replied yes, “yes the US Department of Education Inspector General is conducting a criminal investigation into unc CH”

SO, I can confirm 100% that U.S. Dept. of Education is conducting a criminal investigation into unc CHeat and Pell Grant Fraud.

Proof:

[quote=“NinerAdvocate, post:540, topic:28477”]Media sue over records of fired CHeat staffers

RALEIGH, N.C. — A coalition of North Carolina news organizations sued the state’s flagship public university Monday to force it to disclose the nine campus employees fired or disciplined for their roles in a scheme allowing fake classes and generous grades to persist for nearly two decades.

The Associated Press and nine other companies filed the lawsuit against University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Chancellor Carol Folt and Vice Chancellor Felicia Washington, whose job makes her the custodian of campus records.

University spokesman Rick White declined comment until the school is able to review the claims.

North Carolina’s public records law requires state agencies, including public universities, to make employee records available. That includes records regarding their dismissal, suspension, or demotion for disciplinary reasons. Campus officials have said the disclosure isn’t required until after an employee has finished appealing the decision.

An eight-month investigation by the Washington law firm of former U.S. Justice Department official Kenneth Wainstein reported last month that fake classes allowed 3,100 athletes and other students to earn artificially high grades from 1993 to 2011. While the sham courses were in one academic department, multiple people around campus knew of them or suspected something but said nothing, the report said.

On the day the report was released, Folt said four campus employees were fired and disciplinary actions started against five others.

Since then, UNC-CH has responded to public records requests for employee files of workers criticized in the report by providing their salaries and titles, historical information on hiring dates and salary raises, but not disciplinary information.

In one case, released employee records show the “end of employment” in April 2013 for Robert Mercer Jr. less than a year after he moved from a job as director of UNC-CH’s student-athlete academic support program to a $82,883 job as special assistant in the honors department.

In contrast to UNC-CH’s response for employee records, UNC-Wilmington issued a statement promptly upon media queries stating that Beth Bridger, one of the football counselors named in Wainstein’s report as steering players toward the bogus classes, lost her job the day the report was published, the lawsuit said. Bridger had started at UNC-Wilmington in January after leaving the Chapel Hill school after seven years in her job there.

State law allows the disclosure of a personnel matter in cases in which an institution’s integrity is at stake, the lawsuit said.

Other media companies participating in the lawsuit are Capitol Broadcasting Co. Inc.; DTH Media Corp.; WTVD Television LLC; The Durham Herald Co.; The News And Observer Publishing Co.; Media General Inc.; The Charlotte Observer Publishing Co.; TWC News & Local Programming LLC; and BH Media Group Inc.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/11/24/4349860_media-sue-over-records-of-fired.html?sp=/99/100/&rh=1#storylink=cpy[/quote]

clt says UNC CHeat is not a flagship.

The problem is, from some of the emails and the data, they appear to deliberately mask the level of athletic enrollment by boosting non-athletic ones to astronomical numbers (More than 400 Paper and Independent study enrollment for Spring 2005 at its height).

So the talking points need to be on the number of enrollments, here are some:

  1. In Fall of 1989 there were only 2 enrollment in Independent study. But the next semester there were 10 and 3 of them are Men’s Basketball players. In that summer 3 out of 5 enrollments were for Men’s Basketball. This is the beginning of Basketball involvement in the AFAM/AFRI scam.

  2. During the championship seasons Men’s Basketball enrollment in Independent Study or Lecture based paper class were 4 for Spring 1993 (6 in Summer 1992), 10 for Spring 2005 (9 in summer 2004), and only 1 for Spring 2009 (9 in summer 2008). Enrollments in the Fall is typically less, perhaps due to less game played.

  3. At the height of the scandal, 29 Men’s Basketball enrollments were found in a single semester of Spring 2004. (Including Rashad McCants, who was the only one honest enough to talk about his experience)

  4. At the height of the scandal, Women’s basketball saw 22 enrollments in a single semester of Spring 2006. This is also the first of back to back Final Four seasons.

  5. Time of first enrollment for each sport are: Men’s Basketball (Spring 1990), Football (Spring 1990), Women’s Basketball (Spring 1994), and Olympic Sports (Spring 2000).

  6. Time of first significant enrollment, defined here as when enrollment normalized by available scholarship is greater than 0.40 are: Men’s Basketball (Summer 1992), Women’s Basketball (Spring 2000) and Football (Spring 2003).

  7. From Fall 1989 to Summer 1997 AFAM/AFRI independent study averaged 11 enrollments per term (Summer sessions are joined as a single term). From Fall 1997 to Summer 2006 independent study averaged 75 enrollments per term.

I posted that data discussion above so I can read it later. It certainly seems to blow holes in the Roy didnt know defense.

Check this out too… this guy has been a reliable source before:

Rumor alert : Source unc

SACS is highly agitated at UNC and the SACS lady of the day wants the following and is discussing now.

a. Assurance that unc has identified all the shadow classes and has taken proper action on individuals (non athletic) involved.
b. SACs wants an outside (non unc) employee on campus to oversee the academic rigor and structure of classes in three different departments. This person is to be informed of all athletic enrollments in paper classes by sport but not by name. Person to be paid by SACS.
c. SACS is suggesting a probation period of 3 years. They are trying to define a type of probation that indicates the serious nature of this kind of academic massive cheating.

clt says espn should take a look at this.

[quote=“cltniners, post:547, topic:28477”]clt says espn should take a look at this.[/quote] Clt can dream, can’t he?

@jaysmith711 RE: McAdoo. Paper was for a third level foreign language class, yet was written in English. [b]Clay Reynolds (a former UNC athlete):[/b] they need to look into French 40 and French 41. Test reviews for the whole class were held at Kenan. Jay Smith ‏(UNC history professor fighting the good fight): Indeed, these were notorious courses. There are others to add to the list. clay reynolds: no athletes I know got below an A or B in either class. The answers to the tests were given at the reviews. Jay Smith : I wish we had interviewed you for the book! Knew the reviews were in Kenan, did not know about the answers. Professor Wolf ‏: Well, it is part of the public record now. We need more athletes from all institutions to share those stories. clay reynolds ‏: my roommate took it. Also oly ath. Questions were given then Answered by prof. Write his answers at test=A clay reynolds: is Dr Vogler still teaching at UNC? Jay Smith : Fascinating. Thanks for sharing. I do wish others would come forward. Athletes speaking out can change system. Jay Smith : He passed away a few years back, retired around 2007. clay reynolds ‏: sad to hear that. I have a degree of sympathy for profs at these $ports factories. Almost an untenable position. Jay Smith ‏: He was certainly a nice man, well meaning. Probably thought he was being helpful. Also true of Boxill. clay reynolds ‏: I also took 2 AFAM classes. Lectures syllabi etc. easy class but real. Like I said we oly ath didn't know in 97 about the shadow classes like AFAM. We knew about French 40/41. Drama 15/16. Most of ESS and sport ethics Jay Smith ‏: EDUC 41? clay reynolds ‏: I don't remember the course number for that one. I could never get in to any of those classes Bc they would fill fast with athletes. I knew gymnasts, volleyball, other wrestlers, baseball etc in them. It was a race to see if you could get in to see your advisor quickly enough. Then there would be 20 ath asking for an add sig after the classes filled up. clay reynolds ‏: btw Rob Mercer was my advisor frosh and soph year. Couldn't have picked a better yes man for ath adv head. my mom a college assoc dean met him my freshman year and told me he was incompetent before we got out of ath cent

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/12/04/4376880_federal-legislation-would-create.html?rh=1

Dan Bonner: ‘All Fingers Pointed At Roy Williams’

http://feinstein.radio.cbssports.com/2014/12/04/dan-bonner-all-fingers-pointed-at-roy-williams/

BoG approves yet another PR spin position for CHeat:

http://lockerroom.johnlocke.org/2014/12/04/does-unc-really-need-another-cheerleader/

This is a dump for later… McCants fake classes, by year/coach:

The scandal captured in one email.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/12/09/4390204_the-unc-academic-scandal-told.html?sp=/99/100/&rh=1

Congressmen seek answers from NCAA president Mark Emmert in letter about academic oversight in wake of UNC scandal: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2014/12/10/ncaa-unc-north-carolina-congress-tony-cardenas-elijah-cummings-mark-emmert/20192585/

NCAA EXTENDS SUSPENSION OF GEORGIA SWIMMING COACH THROUGH 2014-15 SEASON

The NCAA has extended the suspension of Georgia swimming coach Jack Bauerle through the 2014-15 season and imposed a $5,000 fine for major rules violations involving star Chase Kalisz.

In a ruling issued Tuesday, the Division I infractions committee governing body ruled that Bauerle “did not promote an atmosphere for compliance” when he made special arrangements for Kalisz to enroll in an independent study course to maintain his eligibility.

According to documents from the NCAA released by Georgia, Bauerle allegedly made special arrangements with a professor to add Kalisz to a course after classes had ended. The NCAA says Kalisz was given a passing grade even though he didn’t complete any work for the course.

From the Georgia story:

"The NCAA said Bauerle made arrangements for Kalisz to receive an incomplete for the course until Kalisz could make up the work. According to the NCAA findings, the instructor “made a clerical error and provided the student-athlete with a passing grade for the course.’’”

This exact same practice is seen multiple times in the Wainstein emails from UNC folks…

Keep in mind that using an AB instead of an IN is even more shady because it stands in as a temporary grade for someone absent from the final examination… for many of these classes, of course, such exam

This will be more ammunition if the NCAA doesn’t do **** to UNC for far worse than what the Georgia guy did.

clt says UGA and the SEC will be watching.

http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/college/T014-S003-10-best-values-in-public-colleges-2015/index.html

Wonder how much this cost them?

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/charles-barkley-paying-auburn-recruits-161849446.html

Has no respect for the NCAA. Knows that Roy Williams is lying.