Nope. Fuck em all.
They are not here for the program or the school. They are gonna wear our laundry as long as we pay them more than someone else does to wear their laundry. Go get your bagâŚthen take my McDonalds order in a few years after 6 schools, no degree, and no chance of playing pro ball because you couldnât grow or develop while chasing brown bags and constantly changing coaches and systems.
Fuck em all.
I get where you guys are coming from but I am missing the point where players just started getting paid when NIL arrived. Players have been getting paid for 60 years. Is it just because you did not know the amounts?
A small percentage of college players were getting âpaidâ. Some were getting some benefits under the table. I know especially under Bobby we made sure some Players were getting what they needed to be able to eat or go home to see family.
There is a tipping point though where it has crossed a line. No one here was making bank strictly in return for their services of playing a sport for a single season, that is no longer the case. And now itâs isnât just a handful itâs half or 3/4 the roster - making this effectively a professional endeavor not an educational one.
No one player who will be playing for us is responsible for how screwed up the system has become. What are they supposed to do? Are they supposed to turn down money if itâs offered? I might boo if a guy is obviously not hustling and doesnât give a shit about helping the team. Otherwise, I wonât be doing it.
No the players are not responsible for the insanity of the current state, but they are now effectively professional players. Itâs just the reality. Most of them are now playing for the name on the back, not the front.
Iâm just saying for me personally something that i would absolutely never have done, is now on the table.
You understand that even before nil, kids didnt didnt go to a school because of the school. They usually went because of the coach but hey, your response sounds reasonable.
I donât think the difference is NIL, think itâs really about how quickly everyone transfers now. Players were getting paid before and some probably were transferring for better pay in the past. But not almost entire teams and particularly star players. That is what severs the attachment between fans and players, though you could argue this has been slowly getting worse for a really long time.
Still donât get booing a team youâre rooting for though, it doesnât help the team do better, so why do it? Just leave if youâre that pissed off, that sends a message too.
Jesus ChristâŚjust ignore the entire point. Some chose schools for the program/coach/style of play/conference/proximity to home/etc
But whatever reason they chose itâŚthey chose it to be their home for their college career.
Now âŚthey dont care about anything other than whoring out their services to the highest bidder from year to year.
That is NOT anything close to what college sports has been aboutâŚever.
You support that if you want to. But Iâd rather wipe wy ass and flush my money down the toilet than to give it for these entitled kids to have a shopping spree at the mall for shit theyâll be pawning for gas money in a few years.
I think the truth is somewhere between the extremes being debated here.
We would love our players to be true Ninerâs and love for the school and program for life.
Some still will. Some never have had that throughout the entire history.
Some will get a degree, some wonât.
Same thing with regular students.
Some get a degree some donât. Some are life long devotees to our university some arenât, despite getting the degree.
I donât really think things have changed that much in reality. We have always had players transferring out.
Itâs just more prevalent now and there is the transfer portal and NIL that add a layer of irritation on top of everything.
I do worry about degree progress for the vast majority of players who are transferring who are not getting significant NIL.
Completing a degree is a life time investment in yourself and I hope that players are smart enough to know that unless they are a no risk pro player they need to complete it.
If we lose the focus of degree completion for the vast majority of players who will be going pro in something other than sports (yes from the NCAA commercial) then this system has failed.
That should be the focus of the rules.
Any student can transfer as much as they want and so should the players but if they are getting grant in aid then the system needs to be oriented toward academic progress.
Call me old fashioned if you will but this still needs to be predominantly an academic exercise and if itâs not then we need to drop out of the rat race and join a coalition of the willing to continue this uniquely American tradition.
Am I going crazy or is an admin on this site deleting certain posts? Two of mine are gone.
No, definitely arenât being deleted. But they may have been moved to another thread to stay on topic. Sorry for the inconvenience.
What is going on shouldnât be called Name, Image and Likeness because it is not. The NIL was setup so players could make money when those things were used. What is going on now is straight up boosters paying for a kid to play at a school. I am all for these kids getting paid to do commercials and other advertisements. However, they have those opportunities at any school. I think bigger cities would be an advantage in that setup versus a school in the mountains or the plains.
So if the boosters are simply paying kids to come play then they are subject to the same reactions that we would give a coach or any other paid professional who is not pulling their weight. It is a lot different than just playing here on a scholarship in my opinion.
It doesnât really bother me that much because I donât care as much as I used to anyway. Almost Twenty years of not having much to cheer for will do that
I had someone yesterday mention that college sports was transformational. That is what was different from prosports, it was transforming the lives of kids into adults and the financial support was about assisting that transformation.
It is now transactional. You do this and you get this. Thatâs it. Some coaches still try to be transformative, Biff wants to be that so does Ron. The reality is though the climate has become very transactional and the relationship with fans and students will follow that shift.
If their tKing money, than i expect results. I understand a bad game happens, but i do expect results for the season overall. They want to get paid, so that means you need to show results reflected in the amount you get paid. That is the way it is for all of us that get paid. We have to show results.
The only time I would be negative at a game is if somebody is dogging it or just playing downright dumb.
If a kid is playing hard and just having a bad night Iâm not bagging on him for that. Off nights happenâŚ.