College basketball scandal

Mike Decourcy and Gary Parrish with their respective thoughts about the current state of college hoops.

Sportingnews.com: NCAA HAS TO KNOW WHAT THE GAME’S PROBLEMS ARE IF IT WANTS TO TRY FIXING THEM

CBSSports.com: College basketball is broken and here’s the only way the NCAA can fix the sport

More from Eisenberg.

Yahoo.com: Arizona is daring NCAA to do something about it by playing Deandre Ayton

[quote=“Nugget, post:119, topic:31097”]If this is as big as Yahoo says it is, two things come to mind:

  1. Everyone that gets busted and punished is going to hate CHeat more than we do.
  2. Alan Major may find an empty seat at the coaches table![/quote]

clt says Notre Dame recently blasted CHeat. They are the most hated university in college sports.

Clt loves his Walmart team that he never went to.

[quote=“ghostofclt, post:123, topic:31097”][quote=“Nugget, post:119, topic:31097”]If this is as big as Yahoo says it is, two things come to mind:

  1. Everyone that gets busted and punished is going to hate CHeat more than we do.
  2. Alan Major may find an empty seat at the coaches table![/quote]

clt says Notre Dame recently blasted CHeat. They are the most hated university in college sports.[/quote]

Not only did the blast cheat but they are preparing a lawsuit for NCAA for equal treatment based on chapel hills lack of punishment. If almost any other school did this I’d say whatever but ND has the financial resources and political clout. If they move forward could be interesting. I think what all the P5 schools want is to be treated equal if they get caught cheating.

State’s could be a big deal[/quote]

Not really, as it wasn’t done by the school or anybody on the staff, and wasn’t an impermissible benefit provided by a booster, etc., in an attempt to give the school a competitive advantage. There’s a big difference in these types of violations. It’s certainly an impermissible benefit (a benefit not available to the student body at large), but it wasn’t done to recruit the athletes, keep the athletes eligible, etc. These were players already in school to whom the Agency was giving money in order to encourage the player to sign with the agency when he jumped to the NBA. This didn’t provide any advantage to an “offending” school over a non-offending school in recruiting, play, etc., and, at least thus far, does not appear to have been perpetrated by anyone affiliated with the schools, their coaching staff, their boosters, etc. (though I’m sure some knew about it).

That’s a big difference from what Louisville, CHeat, etc., were doing.[/quote]

That’s why I used the word could. If they find out State was involved it could be a big deal. They do have emails between Gottfried and staff with that agency.

Newsobserver.com: Report says former NC State coach Mark Gottfried was in contact with associate tied to FBI probe

FWTW…

Clay Travis @ClayTravis

Wow, great stuff from @DanWetzel just now on @Outkick on college basketball scandal. Asked to set over/under on Big 5 conference coaches who could lose their jobs over this FBI case, he set it at 20. Twenty!

State’s could be a big deal[/quote]

Not really, as it wasn’t done by the school or anybody on the staff, and wasn’t an impermissible benefit provided by a booster, etc., in an attempt to give the school a competitive advantage. There’s a big difference in these types of violations. It’s certainly an impermissible benefit (a benefit not available to the student body at large), but it wasn’t done to recruit the athletes, keep the athletes eligible, etc. These were players already in school to whom the Agency was giving money in order to encourage the player to sign with the agency when he jumped to the NBA. This didn’t provide any advantage to an “offending” school over a non-offending school in recruiting, play, etc., and, at least thus far, does not appear to have been perpetrated by anyone affiliated with the schools, their coaching staff, their boosters, etc. (though I’m sure some knew about it).

That’s a big difference from what Louisville, CHeat, etc., were doing.[/quote]

That’s why I used the word could. If they find out State was involved it could be a big deal. They do have emails between Gottfried and staff with that agency.[/quote]

Exactly. You peg it to a coach, assistant, booster, etc., and it changes the game. Sean Miller is a great example. They’ll need more to peg Gottfried/Early because right now its just an email saying Gottfried/Early called him about something, but doesn’t talk about what it was. It’s not a good look, though, because there are only a couple of legitimate reasons for a coach to call an agent.

What annoys me is how quickly these players are “cleared” after a “thorough investigation.” Basically, they don’t want to have to tell the P6 that they’re all ineligible.

CBSSports.com: You’d be foolish to think college football is not as crooked as college basketball

Bloomberg.com: College Hoops-Scandal Leaks Draw Foul Call From U.S. Prosecutors

Newsobserver.com: NC State subpoenaed by Justice Department amid investigation of college basketball

Yahoo.com: NCAA corruption probe: What March Madness sponsors say

clt says pack pride may implode if they get hit hard and CHeat walks.

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/nc-state/article205489139.html

clt expects the death penalty for NCSU while CHeat gets additional scholarships.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/page/the_loyalty_game.html

http://amp.si.com/college-basketball/2018/03/28/marvin-bagley-iii-nike-aau-team-sponsorship-investigation

clt is SHOCKED