FIRE LAMBERT!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote=“ghostofclt, post:340, topic:31078”][quote=“NinerAdvocate, post:339, topic:31078”]http://www.forgotten5.com/2017/10/20/who-should-be-georgia-southerns-next-head-coach/

GSU site lists Mike Houston as their #1 target.[/quote]

clt says they cannot do that! We want him.[/quote]

Judy will wait until another school signs him before doing anything. There is no way she will allow people on a chat board to dictate who she selects as coach.

We will never hear about it, but if we let Lambert go one of our first calls should be to Scott Satterfield at App. He has a good thing going there, and App has a history and level of success that programs just 5 years in cannot match, but I think they are topped out. Their location, general suckage in all other sports, and no momentum for realignment these days means he will likely continue to win around 10 games per year and be the toast of Boone, NC as long as he wants to stay there. However, at Charlotte a coach like Satterfield could build a program that could become one of the best in NC and people would actually notice. I know he played at App, but the mantra there is “we are happy with who we are”, and I don’t think that will be enough to keep him there. The timing could be right for us, and nothing would make me laugh more than him in Green when we play the 'eers in 2018.

[quote=“Nugget, post:342, topic:31078”]We will never hear about it, but if we let Lambert go one of our first calls should be to Scott Satterfield at App. He has a good thing going there, and App has a history and level of success that programs just 5 years in cannot match, but I think they are topped out. Their location, general suckage in all other sports, and no momentum for realignment these days means he will likely continue to win around 10 games per year and be the toast of Boone, NC as long as he wants to stay there. However, at Charlotte a coach like Satterfield could build a program that could become one of the best in NC and people would actually notice. I know he played at App, but the mantra there is “we are happy with who we are”, and I don’t think that will be enough to keep him there. The timing could be right for us, and nothing would make me laugh more than him in Green when we play the 'eers in 2018.[/quote]drinking hard on a Monday nugget?

We would need to pay triple what we do now. He makes roughly the same as Brad. Not going to have that type of commitment to winning with this administration.

Leaving a great situation at your Alma mater for a move down in terms of tradition and football success, even if there is more potential would take a ton of money. Conference difference is somewhat negligible too unfortunately.

We would need to pay triple what we do now. He makes roughly the same as Brad. Not going to have that type of commitment to winning with this administration.

Leaving a great situation at your Alma mater for a move down in terms of tradition and football success, even if there is more potential would take a ton of money. Conference difference is somewhat negligible too unfortunately.[/quote]

Knowing he would have to work for Judy would also hurt our chances IMO.

Wow this is one of the most insane posts I’ve read on here in a long time. The is absolutely no reason to for him to even take the call. Another year or two at app like he has had or maybe just after this season some P5 school or AAC school will call him. Regardless of our potential his suitors are going to be far superior to anything we can offer.

Wow this is one of the most insane posts I’ve read on here in a long time. The is absolutely no reason to for him to even take the call. Another year or two at app like he has had or maybe just after this season some P5 school or AAC school will call him. Regardless of our potential his suitors are going to be far superior to anything we can offer.[/quote]
Oh, challenge accepted. I can do better.

Wow this is one of the most insane posts I’ve read on here in a long time. The is absolutely no reason to for him to even take the call. Another year or two at app like he has had or maybe just after this season some P5 school or AAC school will call him. Regardless of our potential his suitors are going to be far superior to anything we can offer.[/quote]
Oh, challenge accepted. I can do better.[/quote]

LOL A move from App to here isn’t even lateral. It would be downward. To work for an AD everyone wants out, for what would likely be not much if at all more money, when staying put and winning will enable him to make a bigger jump to a better conference, for far more money at a much more prestigious school with an AD committed to winning.

Honestly - I am not sure why any coach on an upward trajectory would want to come here, given the challenges we are currently facing.

[quote=“Tintin, post:175, topic:30932”][quote=“JaMiNNiNeR, post:174, topic:30932”]Duke talking Niner football on WFNZ.

[size=12pt]http://www.wfnz.com/articles/news/austin-duke-charlotte-49ers-program-coach-lambert-doing-it-right-way[/size][/quote]

I respect Austin and his points and his opinions. He was given an opportunity by Lambert (who I think is a wonderful human being, just not so great a football coach) and I have no problem with him remaining loyal to him. I also agree with him that we as fans need to be patient.
My problem with Lambert is that I don’t see the improvement I’d like to see five years in. Missed tackles, dumb penalties, blown coverages, poor special team play (with the exception of Arthur) and terrible play calling have not changed in five seasons.
He also doesn’t see that attendance is down and we as fans are becoming apathetic to the program. I don’t mind losing, the program is new and will take time to build, but I want to lose smarter.
It was nice that we won a Saturday, but we still had 15 penalties (three declined), a terrible blown coverage on their td pass, and a terrible run up the middle on fourth and one in the opening drive.
The players made the plays we needed and the 2 point conversion call was gutsy and awesome, but I still left the game thinking we got away with one.[/quote]

The goal of a coach is to have a Senior class as good or better than the previous Senior class. Considering the first Senior class was signed with no hint that we were going FBS one would think that future classes would be better. Granted every good coached team has down years due to injuries, players not panning out, etc… However, we went from bowl conversation to high fiving every fan because we just went 1-7 and we did it by converting a 2 point conversion in OT. The only way he should retain his position is if (a) they win out the season and (b) he agrees that a new OC will be brought in. I don’t think that they will come close to (a) and I am skeptical if he would do (b). It is time for change to progress the program forward.

Part of me feels bad about this because Lambert is a good guy and has represented us well during these important years. The other part thinks he has made around $3.5 million in his 7 years with us, and that is more than most of our fans will make in their lifetime, plus he is guaranteed to make at least $225,000/year until 2020 so nobody should feel sorry for him. I am going with the second part.

He gets paid to win games. He doesn’t win. I get fired for not doing my job (Without severance). Give me a break.

So we agree, right?

[quote=“Dowless, post:349, topic:31078”][quote=“Tintin, post:175, topic:30932”][quote=“JaMiNNiNeR, post:174, topic:30932”]Duke talking Niner football on WFNZ.

[size=12pt]http://www.wfnz.com/articles/news/austin-duke-charlotte-49ers-program-coach-lambert-doing-it-right-way[/size][/quote]

I respect Austin and his points and his opinions. He was given an opportunity by Lambert (who I think is a wonderful human being, just not so great a football coach) and I have no problem with him remaining loyal to him. I also agree with him that we as fans need to be patient.
My problem with Lambert is that I don’t see the improvement I’d like to see five years in. Missed tackles, dumb penalties, blown coverages, poor special team play (with the exception of Arthur) and terrible play calling have not changed in five seasons.
He also doesn’t see that attendance is down and we as fans are becoming apathetic to the program. I don’t mind losing, the program is new and will take time to build, but I want to lose smarter.
It was nice that we won a Saturday, but we still had 15 penalties (three declined), a terrible blown coverage on their td pass, and a terrible run up the middle on fourth and one in the opening drive.
The players made the plays we needed and the 2 point conversion call was gutsy and awesome, but I still left the game thinking we got away with one.[/quote]

The goal of a coach is to have a Senior class as good or better than the previous Senior class. Considering the first Senior class was signed with no hint that we were going FBS one would think that future classes would be better. Granted every good coached team has down years due to injuries, players not panning out, etc… However, we went from bowl conversation to high fiving every fan because we just went 1-7 and we did it by converting a 2 point conversion in OT. The only way he should retain his position is if (a) they win out the season and (b) he agrees that a new OC will be brought in. I don’t think that they will come close to (a) and I am skeptical if he would do (b). It is time for change to progress the program forward.[/quote]

The lack of a solid recruiting coordinator really has hurt us recently. I’m not a Lambert apologist by any means, but I don’t think this has been talked about enough.

[quote=“CivilNiner, post:353, topic:31078”][quote=“Dowless, post:349, topic:31078”][quote=“Tintin, post:175, topic:30932”][quote=“JaMiNNiNeR, post:174, topic:30932”]Duke talking Niner football on WFNZ.

[size=12pt]http://www.wfnz.com/articles/news/austin-duke-charlotte-49ers-program-coach-lambert-doing-it-right-way[/size][/quote]

I respect Austin and his points and his opinions. He was given an opportunity by Lambert (who I think is a wonderful human being, just not so great a football coach) and I have no problem with him remaining loyal to him. I also agree with him that we as fans need to be patient.
My problem with Lambert is that I don’t see the improvement I’d like to see five years in. Missed tackles, dumb penalties, blown coverages, poor special team play (with the exception of Arthur) and terrible play calling have not changed in five seasons.
He also doesn’t see that attendance is down and we as fans are becoming apathetic to the program. I don’t mind losing, the program is new and will take time to build, but I want to lose smarter.
It was nice that we won a Saturday, but we still had 15 penalties (three declined), a terrible blown coverage on their td pass, and a terrible run up the middle on fourth and one in the opening drive.
The players made the plays we needed and the 2 point conversion call was gutsy and awesome, but I still left the game thinking we got away with one.[/quote]

The goal of a coach is to have a Senior class as good or better than the previous Senior class. Considering the first Senior class was signed with no hint that we were going FBS one would think that future classes would be better. Granted every good coached team has down years due to injuries, players not panning out, etc… However, we went from bowl conversation to high fiving every fan because we just went 1-7 and we did it by converting a 2 point conversion in OT. The only way he should retain his position is if (a) they win out the season and (b) he agrees that a new OC will be brought in. I don’t think that they will come close to (a) and I am skeptical if he would do (b). It is time for change to progress the program forward.[/quote]

The lack of a solid recruiting coordinator really has hurt us recently. I’m not a Lambert apologist by any means, but I don’t think this has been talked about enough.[/quote]

Lambert has coached a long time this shouldn’t be big surprise. Our recruiting is very subpar when you are getting punked by A&T, GA State, and EMU there is a problem.

Just going to put this right here:

The fact that his buyout is that cheap, and he still has a job as of this moment does not bode well.

Wow this is one of the most insane posts I’ve read on here in a long time. The is absolutely no reason to for him to even take the call. Another year or two at app like he has had or maybe just after this season some P5 school or AAC school will call him. Regardless of our potential his suitors are going to be far superior to anything we can offer.[/quote]
Oh, challenge accepted. I can do better.[/quote]

You guys should consider A&T’s Rod Broadway. With far less resources he’s managing to beat fcs and fbs teams,… including Satterfield.

Agree. Broadway knows how to do it and how to do it the right way.

I like Broadway a lot, there was zero doubt as to who the better coached team was when we played A&T. The only drawback could be his age, but I almost would rather have an older coach than a younger one. If he got things turned around here his age would keep him here, whereas if a younger coach got it rolling they would jump at the first bigger job.

Just an FYI UF(Florida) Admin is actively looking to Fire Jim McElwain with clause(not pay buyout) after 2 SEC east conference champs, but we need to manage our expectations