Former player discussion

How has Rodney White been a good pro? He was drafted high but was a complete bust in the NBA. Kicked off a crappy team in Italy and cut from a team in Israel before the season started.[/quote]

Rodney White had an NBA career. That is better than anyone else in the Mullins era. Say whatever you want about his career, but he made the league and played for years. Playing for 20 years overseas wouldn’t be a better pro career than 5 in the league. Ask anybody playing basketball. You want to be in the NBA.[/quote]

Comparing Rodney to Jobey is too funny. Two complete different people. One with marginal talent that busted his ass to become the best player he could be and one with awesome talent who was too lazy to to become the player he could have been. Jobey had way more heart and desire than Rodney, but Rodney sheer athletic ability took him to a level that Jobey’s could not meet.[/quote]

I’m not comparing them as people or players, merely their NBA careers. Context fella, look into it.[/quote]

Yeah I got ya - that was why I was saying it was too funny. Clearly Rodney is one of the top players we have ever had because he made it to the big time. What sucks is I really think Henry and Eddie could have, they just did not make it to the right team. Jobey on the other hand, just didn’t have the skill set. He is the personification of the great college basketball player.

Henry was before my time, but I didn’t think Eddie had much of a shot. 6’5" without much of a jumper will not get you far in the league.

Agreed - didn’t think it would get him far. Just thought he brought enough to make a team, same with Henry. Neither had the potential that Rodney had, but I thought both brought enough to make a roster.

Just had a little discussion about this in the shoutbox. I agree about Eddie. I thought Galen had a slightly better chance. Eddie was the better college player for sure. But I thought Galen had the better skill set to get an NBA shot.

Eddie’s freedom to take chances in Lutz’s zone defenses got him the Defensive POY the year and was the main reason people thought he had a chance in the NBA (and to be fair, he did make a team as an undrafted FA, which is impressive). But defensive specialists in the NBA have to be lockdown one-on-one defenders which Eddie wasn’t, they also usually bring something on the offensive end such as being a decent spot-up 3 point shooter. He was a fantastic college player, but I agree that he just didn’t have the right skill set to succeed in the NBA.

Now Curtis Withers is another story, if Jason Maxiell can find consistent minutes in the NBA, Withers should have been able to do the same.

I always thought Demarco Johnson would’ve had a better career if he had come into the league at a different time.

This discussion depresses me. I hope Nickerson becomes the next Niner great… or someone on this team or in this next recruiting class… and we go to the tournament.

I think Braswell has a chance to be special if Major can light a fire under him. And Deuce might end up being the best player to come through since at least Withers if Major can find the right combination of guys to go alongside an attacking PG.

I think Braswell has a chance to be special if Major can light a fire under him. And Deuce might end up being the best player to come through since at least Withers if Major can find the right combination of guys to go alongside an attacking PG.[/quote]

I agree with you on both accounts. Braz has a great skill set but seems to lack intensity and physical toughness… which is exactly what the HS scouting reports said, surprisingly. I am thankful Deuce and Braz are only sophomores! I can’t wait to see what Coach can do with these guys.

I agree with you on both accounts. Braz has a great skill set but seems to lack intensity and physical toughness… which is exactly what the HS scouting reports said, surprisingly. I am thankful Deuce and Braz are only sophomores! I can’t wait to see what Coach can do with these guys.[/quote]

Braz definitely needs to raise his level of intensity and develop a better than average jump shot. Deuce has the skill set and talent to be an A10 POY candidate by his senior year. However I am not sure Major being a 1st year coach knows exactly what to do with a kid like him. When you have a supremely talented PG that is your first or second best offensive weapon you sometimes have to just let him play and allow him the freedom to create for himself and others ala Kemba Walker (UCONN),Kevin Anderson(UR) TU Holloway(XU).

You could clearly see that Briscoe’s aggressivness offensively was being harnessed by the coaching staff against CC as Briscoe only took 4 shots. He never even looked to attack the seems against the 1-3-1 as he tried to be a passive pass first PG. Thinking to much, hesitating and not playing on instinct led him to brutal turnovers which ultimatly hurt the team.

I hope coach Major grows up fast and learns how to exploit our teams strengths rather than pigeon hole them.

[quote=“sokool, post:30, topic:24395”]Braz definitely needs to raise his level of intensity and develop a better than average jump shot. Deuce has the skill set and talent to be an A10 POY candidate by his senior year. However I am not sure Major being a 1st year coach knows exactly what to do with a kid like him. When you have a supremely talented PG that is your first or second best offensive weapon you sometimes have to just let him play and allow him the freedom to create for himself and others ala Kemba Walker (UCONN),Kevin Anderson(UR) TU Holloway(XU).

You could clearly see that Briscoe’s aggressivness offensively was being harnessed by the coaching staff against CC as Briscoe only took 4 shots. He never even looked to attack the seems against the 1-3-1 as he tried to be a passive pass first PG. Thinking to much, hesitating and not playing on instinct led him to brutal turnovers which ultimatly hurt the team.

I hope coach Major grows up fast and learns how to exploit our teams strengths rather than pigeon hole them.[/quote]
I agree. Like you said, he’s a first year coach, I’m sure he’ll find the right balance of attacking and facilitating soon enough. Major has seen a lot of talent come through Matta’s teams, he has to recognize he has something special in Deuce. I think Major is caught between playing to the teams natural strengths and trying to run the system he has in mind.

[quote=“CMack124, post:31, topic:24395”][quote=“sokool, post:30, topic:24395”]Braz definitely needs to raise his level of intensity and develop a better than average jump shot. Deuce has the skill set and talent to be an A10 POY candidate by his senior year. However I am not sure Major being a 1st year coach knows exactly what to do with a kid like him. When you have a supremely talented PG that is your first or second best offensive weapon you sometimes have to just let him play and allow him the freedom to create for himself and others ala Kemba Walker (UCONN),Kevin Anderson(UR) TU Holloway(XU).

You could clearly see that Briscoe’s aggressivness offensively was being harnessed by the coaching staff against CC as Briscoe only took 4 shots. He never even looked to attack the seems against the 1-3-1 as he tried to be a passive pass first PG. Thinking to much, hesitating and not playing on instinct led him to brutal turnovers which ultimatly hurt the team.

I hope coach Major grows up fast and learns how to exploit our teams strengths rather than pigeon hole them.[/quote]
I agree. Like you said, he’s a first year coach, I’m sure he’ll find the right balance of attacking and facilitating soon enough. Major has seen a lot of talent come through Matta’s teams, he has to recognize he has something special in Deuce. I think Major is caught between playing to the teams natural strengths and trying to run the system he has in mind.[/quote]

CMack U ARE SOOOO RIGHT ON POINT!!!