clt says hpu is getting students from the northeast who have $, and decent grades
There are a ton of small private colleges in NC â mainly Christian (mostly Baptist). The Baptist schools have the benefit of tapping into NC Baptist Convention for support, but that is dwindling as well.
In terms of private colleges/universities with the most staying power, you have the âbigâ guys like Duke, Wake, Elon, Davidson, and Campbell. They likely arenât going anywhere with Campbell being the weakest. Then you have your second tier: Queens, HPU, Catawba, Gardner-Webb, Wingate, Meredith. Next is Tier 3, starting to get dicey: Johnson C. Smith, Salem, Peace, Belmont, Barton, NC Wesleyan, Mount Olive. Then your most in-need: Guilford, Mars Hill, Methodist, Montreat, Pfeiffer, Chowan, Shaw. Finally, everyone else: small Christian colleges, HBCUs, places like Warren Wilson, Lees-McRae, and Brevard.
Just my observation: Higher Education is overflowing with small private colleges established in late 1800s-1950s, usually linked to religious denominations, that are about to really struggle. These schools have sub-1,500 students, high tuition costs, poor finances, and aging infrastructure. We could see a lot of shrinkage in schools.
Great rundown ninernyc. Thank you.
Based on my anecdotal experience Iâm seeing more and more people start in community college. People are more cost sensitive as the cost of college has gone up.
Hard for those smaller privates to compete.
For my own situation I told my son no way Iâm paying for a private school unless he goes to a private school that is really good and moves the needle. Otherwise itâs a state school.
I also attended one those âtier 3â colleges and itâs still doing fine. Record enrollment and record alumni giving last I looked.
Just to clarify: Tier 3 doesnât mean anything in terms of quality, but rather scale and finances. They are all fairly small, private schools. Some are absolutely growing (I know Peace is expanding their campus to accommodate growth, as is JCSU). Salem is kind of just there. It has 700 students and its role as a female-only (grad programs are co-ed) seems to hurt its viability.
Community Colleges make a ton of sense for a lot of people. Very cheap the first two years Or learn a trade that make you very valuable these days.
College isnât for everybody and the cost is crazy. I know what we paid to get our kids through and itâs ridiculous. Our youngest is graduating from grad school in a couple of weeks but that was on her dime (kinda)
One size doesnât fit all. I went to Gaston College two years before I transferred to Charlotte back in the day. Saved a lot of money doing that. Then had to get a loan from College Foundation to finish with a B. A. Forever thankful for the success that followed for me.
My son, born in 1978, on the other hand, went to UNCW on a partial scholarship and graduated from there in 2001. Being a brilliant young man, he got his Ph. D. from Wake Forest on a totally free ride. Thank goodness for how that played out for him and us.
There are lucrative trades out there to be learned and practiced. Traditional college isnât for everyone, nor should it be. I wish nothing but success to students who follow whatever path they choose. There are many.
I knew UNCA was looking to build a new soccer stadium but 5,000 seats seems excessive for a school with only 2,800 students.
It is going to be a multi-purpose stadium from money a donor gave several months ago from what I saw in the Asheville paper.
My guess is Elon is thriving and Queens isnât. Elon just developed a law program in Charlotte and are going to take on a campus in one of the best hoods.
I graduate from Elon in 1985âŚas I mentioned in a different post, I think this is more about Queens issues than Elonâs.
Cureton also said degree requirements and the âday-to-day Queens experienceâ wouldnât change. It wasnât immediately clear what the schools plan to do with the Queens name, athletics programs, lion mascot and other Queens assets.
I will be shocked if they are able to continue operating with duplicate athletics programs. And in that case, D1 is about to lose a program in most of the core sports except football. That includes hoops, but also a lot of other programs like soccer and tennis which means a loss of scholarship opportunities.
We/Charlotte should have merged with Queens and put our nursing school there. It is a very nice campus and centrally located near hospitals.
That location would have been a fantastic medical school location. But we missed on this.
And how many Law Schools in Charlotte now? We drag our feet OR are prevented from being what we need to be byâŚâŚ
I havenât read everything on this, so I donât know if it has been addressedâŚ
I wonder if Elon is acquiring the deed to the property in the event they close the campus in the future? Letâs face it, prime real estate is the most valuable asset that Queens has.
Looks like a gradual merger. In time it will be one school with one name and one athletic program. In time.
We are odd that we keep growing enrollment.