[QUOTE=Roasty;168914]No insult intended, but you might also want to keep in mind that someone telling you to email a guy named âJimmyHatâ your pledge doesnât exactly reek of professionalism. It seems more like a âsend this to 30 people and youâll get $50â chain email. I think the response will be wildly different with a website to visit and tangible products/advertisements like t-shirts.
*edit, sort of: itâs good youâre using a new email address. The main point I was trying to make still remains.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Even though its different now, a .charlotte49erfootball.com email address (or something similar) would be best unless we could get a @uncc.edu address.
Both are easily possible. The email address from my domain wonât come about for a couple months to be sure, but by that time the website will at least be somewhat operational and remove the need to send in pledges via email.
[QUOTE=RWORKMAN09;168915]I havenât emailed you because Iâm still a student, but Iâd be in favor of adding up to 350 in student fees for football (our fees are nothing compared to other schools) and once I graduated (assuming I have a steady, decent paying job) I would be in 2 for season tickets and 2000 a year. Itâs so far off for me though and so many different things could happen that I cannot guarantee anything right now except for Iâm in support of raising fees.[/QUOTE]
In the immortal words of Paul Silas âAM I SPEAKING CHINESEâ!!!
Whether you are a current student or a alumnus, you need to sign up and the list to show the administration that YES you do want football at Charlotte. Again Football will not be a reality for 3 to 5 years so by then there is a good chance you wonât be a student anymore. Even if you are, I just need to know if you will support Football at this school. Please let me know if anymore clarification neccesssary.
[QUOTE=Roasty;168914]No insult intended, but you might also want to keep in mind that someone telling you to email a guy named âJimmyHatâ your pledge doesnât exactly reek of professionalism. It seems more like a âsend this to 30 people and youâll get $50â chain email. I think the response will be wildly different with a website to visit and tangible products/advertisements like t-shirts.
*edit, sort of: itâs good youâre using a new email address. The main point I was trying to make still remains.[/QUOTE]
Iâm sure if someone wanted they could think of plenty of EXCUSES not to get involved with bringing football to Charlotte it would be very easy, hell they have been doing it for the last 40 years⌠And Iâm sure you can come up with lots of reasons why people wonât get involved like they donât think condoms are professional. But the key to what Iâm trying to accomplish is a active campaign to inspire people to be proactive and let the powers that be know that they want and most importantly will support football at Charlotte.
The website will be a great tool, but the fact of the matter is it is a passive tool and as well all know people are lazy. Most people are less likely to act if they hear about some website, than if a friend of theirs tells them to sign up on a list to bring football to Charlotte.
[QUOTE=Jimmyhat49er;168920]
The website will be a great tool, but the fact of the matter is it is a passive tool and as well all know people are lazy. Most people are less likely to act if they hear about some website, than if a friend of theirs tells them to sign up on a list to bring football to Charlotte.[/QUOTE]
I think the next step is a step from exactly what weâre doing now. We still want to be proactive about it, but lead them to a site that seems completely (or mostly) legit.
[QUOTE=Jimmyhat49er;168920]The website will be a great tool, but the fact of the matter is it is a passive tool and as well all know people are lazy. Most people are less likely to act if they hear about some website, than if a friend of theirs tells them to sign up on a list to bring football to Charlotte.[/QUOTE]
Iâll take that bet. This is a competition that will only benefit us both.
Oh I'm not giving up. I'm committed to see this through for 1 year. And I firmly believe at the end of that year we will all know if we will ever have Football at Charlotte.
I am pleased with having 47 people firmly committed to help bring Football to Charlotte. But I am perplexed that at least 250 people have visited this thread and only 47 decided they wanted to get involved.
I hope to see this continue to gain momentum and I hope people will help get the word out so we can stop asking if weâll ever have football and start looking forward to when.
You have âsoldâ 125 season tickets in the rootiest of grass roots fundraising. Pledges in the 10âs of thousands of dollars is not insignificant.
My advice: Donât set up a bar for failure. I get the sense that thereâs been excitement generated over the past week or so.
[QUOTE=Roasty;168935]Iâll take that bet. This is a competition that will only benefit us both.[/QUOTE]
I donât think it is a competition. Once the Site is finished I will push people to it and I will probably get (or contribute to getting) business cards for the site and the list printed up so I(we) have something very easy to hand out to people, especially at basketball games.
[QUOTE=Jimmyhat49er;168919]In the immortal words of Paul Silas âAM I SPEAKING CHINESEâ!!!
Whether you are a current student or a alumnus, you need to sign up and the list to show the administration that YES you do want football at Charlotte. Again Football will not be a reality for 3 to 5 years so by then there is a good chance you wonât be a student anymore. Even if you are, I just need to know if you will support Football at this school. Please let me know if anymore clarification neccesssary.[/QUOTE]
I canât do that though because Iâm not going to say that I can guarantee money and season tickets when I havenât even graduated yet. I may end up getting a job in another state, then my promised contributions would never happen. I want to see football here, but I would never give money for it if Iâm not even going to live close enough to ever see it.
I can't do that though because I'm not going to say that I can guarantee money and season tickets when I haven't even graduated yet. I may end up getting a job in another state, then my promised contributions would never happen. I want to see football here, but I would never give money for it if I'm not even going to live close enough to ever see it.
That is the sorriest excuse I have ever heard! Come on RWORKMAN, Jimmyâs not asking for a financial commitment from current students, only support. I live in Boston and committed to 2 tix even though Iâll most likely go once a year. Have you no pride toward your school? The one thing truly holding back this University is the lack of school pride (see bball attendance) and a football team. I would have killed for Sat. afternoons in the Fall tailgaiting and rooting on the mighty Niners to victory. College football is the balls. Attend a USC Clemson game and tell me it doesnât generate huge amounts of school pride, (not to mention drunken brawls). Good stuff all!!
First of all, you need to play 1-AA for 5 years before you are allowed to move up to 1-A. So, you need to budget on this basis. To fund football, I suggest:
Start a womenâs crew team. This is the cheapest sport to add to comply with Title IX concerns. Some schools have as many as 100 rowers. Remember, Title IX has to do with participants, not scholarships. Others to consider include field hockey and equestrian.
The student senate needs to approve a $7 per credit hour activity fee. The would generate 19,000 students x 15 credit hours x 2 semesters x $7 = $3.99 million per year. This is enough to fund a 1-AA scholarship team and the crew team. Never refer to the fee as $100 or $200 per semester. The anti-football crowd will jump on that number. Its simply too large for the people who donât want football to swallow.
You need to set up a plan to jump to 1-A. You need to raise funds for facilities, and the added costs associated with playing at the 1-A level. For example, I would set an alumni goal of $10 million to start ( avery doable number in my opinion). You tell the alums that if we raise $10 million, we will start football at a non-scholarship level. The $10 million will generate $500,000 per year in added income. If you raise $30 million and sell 15,000 season tickets, you will play at the 1-A level. The $30 million will generate $1.5 million a year in added revenue. The 15,000 season tickets at say $20 each for 6 games per year will generate another $1.8 milliion. Now, you have an income stream of around $7.3 million (donât forget the activity fees) to play 1-A football, plus $30 million in the bank for unforseen emergencies. Note, I havenât included corporate sponsorships, parking and concession income, etc in any of my calculations. I want to be extremely conservative in my numbers.
Now, once the $10 million donation mark is hit, you immediately start collecting the activity fee for the first year, even if there is no football yet. Then, you play non-scholarship football for two years to build an initial next egg to build facilities. The money earned off the $10 million alumni endowment will be able to fund the program for the first 3 years, leaving the three years of activity fees (about $12 million) to be used for building up your facilities, e.g. practice fields, meeting and weight rooms, etc. In year 4, you step on the field as a 1-AA scholarship team. You continue to play at the 1-AA level until the endowment reaches $30 million. Once it hits $30 million and sell 15,000 season tickets, you make the next jump.
Its going to take 7-10 years to get to the 1-A level, but once there, the program will be on sound financial footing. It wonât have to struggle like UAB or others. But, you need to present a plan that puts the program on firm financial footing by taking baby steps to do it and by getting the students committed at the ground floor.
[QUOTE=RWORKMAN09;168959]I canât do that though because Iâm not going to say that I can guarantee money and season tickets when I havenât even graduated yet. I may end up getting a job in another state, then my promised contributions would never happen. I want to see football here, but I would never give money for it if Iâm not even going to live close enough to ever see it.[/QUOTE]
Why can you not support your school from a state other than N.C.? Iâve been supporting Charlotte for 17 years and I havenât lived in N.C. since I graduated in 1989.
I can't do that though because I'm not going to say that I can guarantee money and season tickets when I haven't even graduated yet. I may end up getting a job in another state, then my promised contributions would never happen. I want to see football here, but I would never give money for it if I'm not even going to live close enough to ever see it.
[QUOTE=Beantown Bomber;168974]That is the sorriest excuse I have ever heard! Come on RWORKMAN, Jimmyâs not asking for a financial commitment from current students, only support. I live in Boston and committed to 2 tix even though Iâll most likely go once a year. Have you no pride toward your school? The one thing truly holding back this University is the lack of school pride (see bball attendance) and a football team. I would have killed for Sat. afternoons in the Fall tailgaiting and rooting on the mighty Niners to victory. College football is the balls. Attend a USC Clemson game and tell me it doesnât generate huge amounts of school pride, (not to mention drunken brawls). Good stuff all!![/QUOTE]
sure I have school pride. I just thought heâd want guarantees. Anyone can say theyâre going to do something, but whether they actually live up to the promise is another thing. Itâd make the initiative look kind of crappy if x amount of dollars were promised and then when collection time came around (If football was approved), only 1/2 of x was collected. You have to have solid committments for something like this, not bullshit maybes.
[QUOTE=UpState49er;168982]Why can you not support your school from a state other than N.C.? Iâve been supporting Charlotte for 17 years and I havenât lived in N.C. since I graduated in 1989.[/QUOTE]sorry, Iâm not into spending thousands per year and buying season tickets I would never use. Makes no sense to me. If I were going to donate money to the school, it would be for education over football unless I was actually around to watch the football.
First of all, you need to play 1-AA for 5 years before you are allowed to move up to 1-A. So, you need to budget on this basis. To fund football, I suggest:
Start a womenâs crew team. This is the cheapest sport to add to comply with Title IX concerns. Some schools have as many as 100 rowers. Remember, Title IX has to do with participants, not scholarships. Others to consider include field hockey and equestrian.
The student senate needs to approve a $7 per credit hour activity fee. The would generate 19,000 students x 15 credit hours x 2 semesters x $7 = $3.99 million per year. This is enough to fund a 1-AA scholarship team and the crew team. Never refer to the fee as $100 or $200 per semester. The anti-football crowd will jump on that number. Its simply too large for the people who donât want football to swallow.
You need to set up a plan to jump to 1-A. You need to raise funds for facilities, and the added costs associated with playing at the 1-A level. For example, I would set an alumni goal of $10 million to start ( avery doable number in my opinion). You tell the alums that if we raise $10 million, we will start football at a non-scholarship level. The $10 million will generate $500,000 per year in added income. If you raise $30 million and sell 15,000 season tickets, you will play at the 1-A level. The $30 million will generate $1.5 million a year in added revenue. The 15,000 season tickets at say $20 each for 6 games per year will generate another $1.8 milliion. Now, you have an income stream of around $7.3 million (donât forget the activity fees) to play 1-A football, plus $30 million in the bank for unforseen emergencies. Note, I havenât included corporate sponsorships, parking and concession income, etc in any of my calculations. I want to be extremely conservative in my numbers.
Now, once the $10 million donation mark is hit, you immediately start collecting the activity fee for the first year, even if there is no football yet. Then, you play non-scholarship football for two years to build an initial next egg to build facilities. The money earned off the $10 million alumni endowment will be able to fund the program for the first 3 years, leaving the three years of activity fees (about $12 million) to be used for building up your facilities, e.g. practice fields, meeting and weight rooms, etc. In year 4, you step on the field as a 1-AA scholarship team. You continue to play at the 1-AA level until the endowment reaches $30 million. Once it hits $30 million and sell 15,000 season tickets, you make the next jump.
Its going to take 7-10 years to get to the 1-A level, but once there, the program will be on sound financial footing. It wonât have to struggle like UAB or others. But, you need to present a plan that puts the program on firm financial footing by taking baby steps to do it and by getting the students committed at the ground floor.
MU88!!!
Glad to have you back! How goes your football endeavor over at Marquette? Personally, I donât want to rush into 1-A - but the schoolâs chancellor might be interested in what you said (Heâs thinking about bowl games).
Check out this .pdf if you havenât already. It might give you some ideas for your Golden Eagles football plan.
[QUOTE=MU88;168981]Then, you play non-scholarship football for two years to build an initial next egg to build facilities. The money earned off the $10 million alumni endowment will be able to fund the program for the first 3 years, leaving the three years of activity fees (about $12 million) to be used for building up your facilities, e.g. practice fields, meeting and weight rooms, etc. In year 4, you step on the field as a 1-AA scholarship team. [/QUOTE]
This is what a friend and I were just talking about (non-scholarship football to start). Could you not also add scholarships over a span of years (start with a few the first year, and add 10-15 per year until you reach the number you want)? And if so, would that also allow you to add necessary womenâs sports over the same span of time, as to not take such a huge financial hit in any one year?
Glad to have you back! How goes your football endeavor over at Marquette? Personally, I donât want to rush into 1-A - but the schoolâs chancellor might be interested in what you said (Heâs thinking about bowl games).
Check out this .pdf if you havenât already. It might give you some ideas for your Golden Eagles football plan.
Not too good on the football front. A friend of mine met with an assistant AD at MU. Evidently, MU believes the BE is going to split in 5 years, but with a kicker. The 8 football schools will take ND and 2 or 3 basketball schools. In other words, the football schools plan on cutting the dead weight. As a result, MU is pouring a ton of resources into being one of the 2 or 3 bball schools who get to tag along. They believe its a 3 horse race with VU and Georgetown. Consequently, MU will not even consider or even talk about adding football until the BE split occurs. On the plus side, MU now has the highest budget of any of the bball schools in the BE and its even higher than USFâs, $20+ million.
I hope Charlotte gets a team. I would love to take my son to a game when we are down there visiting grandpa. Heck, I would even make a donation if the school started a campaign.
[QUOTE=MU88;168981]First of all, you need to play 1-AA for 5 years before you are allowed to move up to 1-A. So, you need to budget on this basis. To fund football, I suggest:
Start a womenâs crew team. This is the cheapest sport to add to comply with Title IX concerns. Some schools have as many as 100 rowers. Remember, Title IX has to do with participants, not scholarships. Others to consider include field hockey and equestrian.
The student senate needs to approve a $7 per credit hour activity fee. The would generate 19,000 students x 15 credit hours x 2 semesters x $7 = $3.99 million per year. This is enough to fund a 1-AA scholarship team and the crew team. Never refer to the fee as $100 or $200 per semester. The anti-football crowd will jump on that number. Its simply too large for the people who donât want football to swallow.
You need to set up a plan to jump to 1-A. You need to raise funds for facilities, and the added costs associated with playing at the 1-A level. For example, I would set an alumni goal of $10 million to start ( avery doable number in my opinion). You tell the alums that if we raise $10 million, we will start football at a non-scholarship level. The $10 million will generate $500,000 per year in added income. If you raise $30 million and sell 15,000 season tickets, you will play at the 1-A level. The $30 million will generate $1.5 million a year in added revenue. The 15,000 season tickets at say $20 each for 6 games per year will generate another $1.8 milliion. Now, you have an income stream of around $7.3 million (donât forget the activity fees) to play 1-A football, plus $30 million in the bank for unforseen emergencies. Note, I havenât included corporate sponsorships, parking and concession income, etc in any of my calculations. I want to be extremely conservative in my numbers.
Now, once the $10 million donation mark is hit, you immediately start collecting the activity fee for the first year, even if there is no football yet. Then, you play non-scholarship football for two years to build an initial next egg to build facilities. The money earned off the $10 million alumni endowment will be able to fund the program for the first 3 years, leaving the three years of activity fees (about $12 million) to be used for building up your facilities, e.g. practice fields, meeting and weight rooms, etc. In year 4, you step on the field as a 1-AA scholarship team. You continue to play at the 1-AA level until the endowment reaches $30 million. Once it hits $30 million and sell 15,000 season tickets, you make the next jump.
Its going to take 7-10 years to get to the 1-A level, but once there, the program will be on sound financial footing. It wonât have to struggle like UAB or others. But, you need to present a plan that puts the program on firm financial footing by taking baby steps to do it and by getting the students committed at the ground floor.[/QUOTE]
This should be our manifesto. Thanks for your post and support.
Remember people if you want footall simply click here: charlotte49erfootball@yahoo.com or send me a PM and tell me the following:
Who you are, how I can reach you and what year did you(or will you) graduate?
How much you would contribute to the start up of football (Keeping in mind you will need to actually come up with this money in 3 to 5 years)?
How much would you contribute yearly(above and beyond, what you already give.)?
How many season tickets would you buy??
And please send a email out to ever niner you know to get them involved as well.
This will be a long process, or it might a short process. If we only have a 100 names after a month, then i guess weâll all know that there really isnât the interest in bringing football to Charlotte.