[QUOTE=Roasty;168805]Heās right. Thereās basically no difference. That money would bascially need to be handed to them from the alumni one way or the other. At the very least a PSL gives you rights your the same seat each year.[/QUOTE]
I do like how Mike re-worded itā¦it makes it sound better. Iām OK with the PSL idea. We gotta pay the bills.
C49er,
This is a bump for Lambda Chi ā¦ please explain?
And yea the PSL idea or something like it would be interesting. There definately should be different tiers of seating though. Sections for those who initially invested in the upstart and buiding of the program. Sections for those alumni who are already active in athletics, however didnt get in on the ground level of this movement. And those who are new donating but are getting in and making pledges to the football program should be rewarded with better seats as well.
There are so many different scenarios, and ways to do this. I curious where the pledge totals are at now. Any changes?
[QUOTE=UNCCLambdaChi767;168826]C49er,
This is a bump for Lambda Chi ā¦ please explain?
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We were just talking about getting the greeks involvedā¦so I bumped the thread back up if you had any ideasā¦thatās all.
Not a bad day, but we can do a lot better. Come on people, do you want football or not???
47 people signed up
$38,800 in initial donations
$22,000 in yearly donations
124 Season tickets sold
Remember people if you want footall simply click here: www.jimmyhat32@yahoo.com or send me a PM and tell me the following:
And please send a email out to ever niner you know to get them involved as well.
This will be a long process, or it might a short process. If we only have a 100 names after a month, then i guess weāll all know that there really isnāt the interest in bringing football to Charlotte.
[QUOTE=C49er;168842]We were just talking about getting the greeks involvedā¦so I bumped the thread back up if you had any ideasā¦thatās all.[/QUOTE]
Them choppers is slow. 
[QUOTE=NormanNiner;168887]Them choppers is slow. [/QUOTE]
Baby steps Norman, baby stepsā¦
I donāt know if anyone said this, but did we take into account Title IX? I imagine everyone knows what that is, but for those who donāt I will explain. First off I am not a girl, but I think everyone should know this. Title 9 requires equal opportunties for both males in females. This applies to athletics also. If we add football, we in essence would have to add another female sport (what, I donāt know). This way both males and females have equal opportunities.
Also with scholarship money we would have to provide an equal amounts for both genders. [FONT=Arial]For example, consider a college with 90 female athletes and 115 male athletes and a scholarship budget of $100,000. An equitable distribution of funds would award $44,000 in scholarship aid to female athletes and $56,000 to males.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]If we as a school do not adhere to this then we could lose federal funding (that would kill any chance of a football program, and may also kill basketball).[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]Just thought I would bring it up.[/FONT]
[QUOTE=UNCCShannon;168893]I donāt know if anyone said this, but did we take into account Title IX? I imagine everyone knows what that is, but for those who donāt I will explain. First off I am not a girl, but I think everyone should know this. Title 9 requires equal opportunties for both males in females. This applies to athletics also. If we add football, we in essence would have to add another female sport (what, I donāt know). This way both males and females have equal opportunities.
Also with scholarship money we would have to provide an equal amounts for both genders. [FONT=Arial]For example, consider a college with 90 female athletes and 115 male athletes and a scholarship budget of $100,000. An equitable distribution of funds would award $44,000 in scholarship aid to female athletes and $56,000 to males.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]If we as a school do not adhere to this then we could lose federal funding (that would kill any chance of a football program, and may also kill basketball).[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]Just thought I would bring it up.[/FONT][/QUOTE]
We have discussed this as well, and realize that the funds will have to be in place for both programs - menās and womenāsā¦that just makes the challenge all that more fun.
Thanks though. Keep posting your thoughts.
(I hope this didnāt sound like me being a smartass. I didnāt mean it that way, so hopefully it didnāt come across that way)
Not a bad day, but we can do a lot better. Come on people, do you want football or not????
This has ALWAYS been my point in why the Administration wonāt consider Football (the extremely apathetic fan base and lack of REAL support).
I love the enthusiasm of the people on this board but we really are the minority. I hope this Initiative continues to gain momentum especially once the website gets going and proves me wrong.
But my gut feeling is that the apathy we always complain about is indeed far more widespread than Niner Pride.
This Initiative will prove somethingā¦thatās for sure. Either, there is a Pride and a real demand for moving forward as a programā¦or that the apathy is a real problem that is hard to solve (but the reason support for Basketball and now Football is so lethargic).
Cāmon guysā¦where are all of the Football fanatics we always hear so much about? Time to step up and prove it. This is a chance to make history and be a part of something monumental in the making!!! Solicit EVERYONEā¦and be creative in getting others involved.
That isā¦if there really is interest.
[QUOTE=UNCCShannon;168893]I donāt know if anyone said this, but did we take into account Title IX? I imagine everyone knows what that is, but for those who donāt I will explain. First off I am not a girl, but I think everyone should know this. Title 9 requires equal opportunties for both males in females. This applies to athletics also. If we add football, we in essence would have to add another female sport (what, I donāt know). This way both males and females have equal opportunities.
Also with scholarship money we would have to provide an equal amounts for both genders. [FONT=Arial]For example, consider a college with 90 female athletes and 115 male athletes and a scholarship budget of $100,000. An equitable distribution of funds would award $44,000 in scholarship aid to female athletes and $56,000 to males.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]If we as a school do not adhere to this then we could lose federal funding (that would kill any chance of a football program, and may also kill basketball).[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]Just thought I would bring it up.[/FONT][/QUOTE]
This issue is clearly addressed in the secret memoā¦
[QUOTE=KTown49er;168897]This has ALWAYS been my point in why the Administration wonāt consider Football (the extremely apathetic fan base and lack of REAL support).
I love the enthusiasm of the people on this board but we really are the minority. I hope this Initiative continues to gain momentum especially once the website gets going and proves me wrong.
But my gut feeling is that the apathy we always complain about is indeed far more widespread than Niner Pride.
This Initiative will prove somethingā¦thatās for sure. Either, there is a Pride and a real demand for moving forward as a programā¦or the apathy is a real problem that is hard to solve (but the reason support for Basketball and now Football is so lethargic).
Cāmon guysā¦where are all of the Football fanatics we always hear so much about? Time to step up and prove it This is a chance to make history and be a part of something monumental in the making!!! Solicit EVERYONEā¦and be creative in getting others involved.
That isā¦if there really is interest.[/QUOTE]
KTown, I hear ya. But realize - this push that we have going (on the board) has been going for whatā¦3 or 4 days? Itās Monday, so most of this was over the campus explosion / holiday, plus the weekend.
You canāt expect us to have thousands on board overnight. We have to get this off the ground and get the word out. Have faith. If it fails, then at least we gave it our all. If it succeeds, then we will have a football program in a few years.
Do what you can. If you havenāt asked all of your Niner friends to sign on, do it. If you have, how else can you help? Can you help us get a sponsor for t-shirts? The possibilities are endless.
There are a lot of people on the board (obviously) that havenāt even pledged to support a football team, or to contribute, and I honestly canāt explain it.
Letās see where this takes us, and ride it til the end. I think weāll (us and our athletics program) will come out better in the end, if nothing else weāll have learned a lot (and weāll have some new t-shirts).
[QUOTE=KTown49er;168897]This has ALWAYS been my point in why the Administration wonāt consider Football (the extremely apathetic fan base and lack of REAL support).
I love the enthusiasm of the people on this board but we really are the minority. I hope this Initiative continues to gain momentum especially once the website gets going and proves me wrong.
But my gut feeling is that the apathy we always complain about is indeed far more widespread than Niner Pride.
This Initiative will prove somethingā¦thatās for sure. Either, there is a Pride and a real demand for moving forward as a programā¦or that the apathy is a real problem that is hard to solve (but the reason support for Basketball and now Football is so lethargic).
Cāmon guysā¦where are all of the Football fanatics we always hear so much about? Time to step up and prove it. This is a chance to make history and be a part of something monumental in the making!!! Solicit EVERYONEā¦and be creative in getting others involved.
That isā¦if there really is interest.[/QUOTE]
The Truth hurts, especially when it comes in the form of a Revolutionā¦
There have been close to 2000 views for this thread and that has inspired a grand total of 47 people to sign up bringing football to Charlotte and several of those people arenāt even from the message board.
Why doesnāt Charlotte have a football team??? The answer is all to obvious, apathyā¦
47 is pretty good considering its been two days, and that few people visit this board during the basketball offseason. Give it time before you give up.
KTown, I hear ya. But realize - this push that we have going (on the board) has been going for what...3 or 4 days? It's Monday, so most of this was over the campus explosion / holiday, plus the weekend.You canāt expect us to have thousands on board overnight. We have to get this off the ground and get the word out. Have faith. If it fails, then at least we gave it our all. If it succeeds, then we will have a football program in a few years.
Do what you can. If you havenāt asked all of your Niner friends to sign on, do it. If you have, how else can you help? Can you help us get a sponsor for t-shirts? The possibilities are endless.
I hope youāre right about the weekend but usually with any type of new/fresh/exciting ideaā¦the bulk of your activity will come from the first week. We had a great first dayā¦then it has trickled into a little more than nothing.
As far as what can I doā¦I sent Jimmy my informationā¦and I was actually the one who started this whole football thing last week when I suggested the Web Site idea as a way to see if there really is interest in this football initiative.
I WANT footballā¦Iāve said it for yearsā¦but Iāve also said we are not ready for it. That we have a much too apathetic fanbase to consider football. I always get labled as a pessimist or not a true fan simply because I state the obvious (thus the start of the Truth Revolution).
-I WANT football.
-I started the Web Site idea which has gotten us this far. BUT,
-I still believe we are too apathetic, as a fanbase (not those on this boardā¦which are the minority), to even have a prayer of supporting football right now.
-We donāt support basketball when weāre GOOD, what makes you think we can support a program that costs 10X as much?
-This is why the Administration has turned a deaf ear to the few that ask for footballā¦they know we canāt support it.
Itās sadā¦but, so far, it appears to be the Truth.
Like Jimmy saidā¦this board is full of the most diehard of Niner fansā¦and only 47 have committed to support football monetarily (when NO actual money is involved!!!). That is SAD. Thatās 47 of the die hard community. What does that tell you about the commitments that will come from the apathetic fans?
Againā¦prove me wrongā¦PLEASE!!!
[QUOTE=Hollywood;168903]47 is pretty good considering its been two days, and that few people visit this board during the basketball offseason. Give it time before you give up.[/QUOTE]
Oh Iām not giving up. Iām committed to see this through for 1 year. And I firmly believe at the end of that year we will all know if we will ever have Football at Charlotte.
I am pleased with having 47 people firmly committed to help bring Football to Charlotte. But I am perplexed that at least 250 people have visited this thread and only 47 decided they wanted to get involved.
I hope to see this continue to gain momentum and I hope people will help get the word out so we can stop asking if weāll ever have football and start looking forward to when.
We definitely shouldnt limit our advertising to this board. We should all make posters or flyers to place around campus. This would more likely attract the attention around campus.
can we get some forms of advertisement made to hand out, hang up, or whatever else to get the word out to the area?
What if all of our current students asked all their professors if you could make a brief announcement before class. Then announce you are part of a group trying to bring a football team to Charlotte and write Charlottte49erfootball@yahoo.com on the chalk board or white board and tell them to send a email saying they support it.
This would be a great way to get a little public speaking experience and your Professors will respect you because your doing something proactive to benefit the school. Its a win, win.
Who would be willing to do it??
No insult intended, but you might also want to keep in mind that someone telling you to email a guy named āJimmyHatā your pledge doesnāt exactly reek of professionalism. It seems more like a āsend this to 30 people and youāll get $50ā chain email. I think the response will be wildly different with a website to visit and tangible products/advertisements like t-shirts.
*edit, sort of: itās good youāre using a new email address. The main point I was trying to make still remains.
I havenāt emailed you because Iām still a student, but Iād be in favor of adding up to 350 in student fees for football (our fees are nothing compared to other schools) and once I graduated (assuming I have a steady, decent paying job) I would be in 2 for season tickets and 2000 a year. Itās so far off for me though and so many different things could happen that I cannot guarantee anything right now except for Iām in support of raising fees.