Heās got the height and reach to run with either Klitschko. The problem is I donāt know that KP is seasoned enough yet to take on either. They both have 10 times more fights than he does between them.
Heās got the height and reach to run with either Klitschko. The problem is I donāt know that KP is seasoned enough yet to take on either. They both have 10 times more fights than he does between them.[/quote]
thereās an old saying, āeasy as it goes.ā i hope his handlers take heed. stay with the plan. donāt let your excitement bring you down. itās working; donāt abandon it now!
Wow, i was going to mention Price vs Brock, till I realized Brock has retired from boxing due to damage to his eye during a fight. Where the F was I? I never heard that until looking it up just now. 
Kelvin is about 35 right? Not a lot of time to stick to a plan unless its a fast-track.
The Klitschkoās more fights means more damage to them. I say take 'em out.
Thatās exactly what I was thinking. He kind of has to go fast track since he started late in his career. Itās more or less all or nothing for him the next couple of years. Wish he would have started sooner.
Thatās exactly what I was thinking. He kind of has to go fast track since he started late in his career. Itās more or less all or nothing for him the next couple of years. Wish he would have started sooner.[/quote]
WK is 34, Vitali is 38. In the heavy weight ranks I dontā think age is as much an issue as in the lighter divisions where speed is key. What makes both of them really good is their height and reach. Itās just really hard to break their defense. No fighter theyāve fought recently has been above 6ā4 I think. KP is 6ā7, so equal in height to both with the reach to match.
He has the physical tools but not the skill yet. Both WK and VK are seasoned pros who have lived boxing.
But in the end you have to take your shot when it comes. I still think KP needs to win against a ānameā guy before he gets there. Valuev, Chambers or Chagaev are the way to go before gunning for one of the brothers. Beat one of them, he pushes himself into the conversation.
MK, I agree. Age is less significant in the heavyweight division. But the difference with the Klitchsko brothers is they are already at the top at 35-38. When they were at Priceās experience they were probably around 27. Iām not saying KP canāt do it. Just saying if he is, itās probably got to happen in the next couple of years. Unfortunately he canāt take the ideal type of experience that would be best for his career, or he would be around 42 before he was truly ready for a title shot.
I do think he should take at least one more fight. Then if he wins, perhaps be in a title fight around the age of 37. Any sooner, he wonāt have enough experience. Any longer, heāll be too old.
Good luck KP- but Klitschko is a beast. I would want another couple of fights before that one
[quote=āNormmm, post:29, topic:23245ā]MK, I agree. Age is less significant in the heavyweight division. But the difference with the Klitchsko brothers is they are already at the top at 35-38. When they were at Priceās experience they were probably around 27. Iām not saying KP canāt do it. Just saying if he is, itās probably got to happen in the next couple of years. Unfortunately he canāt take the ideal type of experience that would be best for his career, or he would be around 42 before he was truly ready for a title shot.
I do think he should take at least one more fight. Then if he wins, perhaps be in a title fight around the age of 37. Any sooner, he wonāt have enough experience. Any longer, heāll be too old.[/quote]
Agree totally. He is on a time table given how late he got going. The ideal is for him to get more experience, but donāt know that the amount heāll need is realistic. Two more fights, beat a name guy, he would be at the best point he is going to be able to be at in my opinion.
hootie is right though, both the WK and VK are absolute beasts.
Couldnāt find his birth date anywhere, but he graduated HS in '94, so Iām guessing heās 34 years old. Not MUCH of a difference, of course, but every year counts for pro athletes, so take it for what itās worth. If his body can take 3-5 fights a year and he keeps improving and knocking guys out, thereās no reason to think a 37-year-old 20-0 or 19-1 heavyweight couldnāt get a shot at some belt. Am I off my rocker here, boxing fans?!
-G-
[quote=āGMadness, post:32, topic:23245ā]Couldnāt find his birth date anywhere, but he graduated HS in '94, so Iām guessing heās 34 years old. Not MUCH of a difference, of course, but every year counts for pro athletes, so take it for what itās worth. If his body can take 3-5 fights a year and he keeps improving and knocking guys out, thereās no reason to think a 37-year-old 20-0 or 19-1 heavyweight couldnāt get a shot at some belt. Am I off my rocker here, boxing fans?!
-G-[/quote]
You would have been way off back in the day but not now- as weak as the Hweight division is, thatās not out of the realm of possiblity
Makes me sad. I like boxing. Wish it were more popular and they would do what it takes to make it more accessible to average fans.
ā¦Stupid UFC with its guys rolling around on the ground, holding each other close.
[quote=āGMadness, post:32, topic:23245ā]Couldnāt find his birth date anywhere, but he graduated HS in '94, so Iām guessing heās 34 years old. Not MUCH of a difference, of course, but every year counts for pro athletes, so take it for what itās worth. If his body can take 3-5 fights a year and he keeps improving and knocking guys out, thereās no reason to think a 37-year-old 20-0 or 19-1 heavyweight couldnāt get a shot at some belt. Am I off my rocker here, boxing fans?!
-G-[/quote]
I donāt think youāre off your rocker, except I really doubt he does 3-5 a year. Heās only had 7 fights in 3 years.
After looking into it more, it looks really unlikely that Kelvin will ever have a chance at a top tier fight. The guys he fought before Hamer are 19-32. One of them is 2-12 and has been knocked out 10 times. According to one site, he moved up to the #69 US heavyweight contender, #181 world.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=398870&cat=boxer
But obviously I hope Iām wrong and wish him the best.
Makes me sad. I like boxing. Wish it were more popular and they would do what it takes to make it more accessible to average fans.
ā¦Stupid UFC with its guys rolling around on the ground, holding each other close.[/quote]
Yeah- I 'm not a UFC guy, but others simply love so Iām not gonna judge. I want to see Mayweather/Manny Pac.
clt is flashing back to signing in kp to the ho house back in the day.
Iām a little late, but congrats to KP!
Beating Tor Hamer at MSG is something to really take pride in. I knew it would be a big night for the winner!
[font=georgia][size=13px][font=verdana]"Tor is very similar to Joe Frazier, but he fights a little quicker and he's better. He hits as hard," Higgins says. (Hamer has actually trained with Frazier in Philadelphia.) "This summer, at the U.S. Championship, in the first round of a semifinal match, Tor knocked out his opponent and knocked his teeth out. Three or four of them. We felt terrible. People were saying Tor was a little too small for the heavyweight, but this opponent was from the Army, and he was wearing a mouthpiece and headgear. I've seen thousands of fights and, sure, I've seen a tooth get punched out. I'm talking teeth! I'd never seen that."Not surprisingly, Higgins is very optimistic about Hamerās future as a pro. āHe needs to build up the right way. Donāt fast-track him to where he is overmatched,ā he says. "I could see in three to four years, heāll be fighting for a world championship. Heāll get there. Heās not doing this to not be great at it.
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[font=verdana][size=12px]Whatever happens, happens - but I really think that Price will find opportunity knocking after this win. As far as age, I counted 22 American fighters ranked in the Top 50 whose age ranges from 34-47 (Kelvin is 33). link [/size][/font]
[font=verdana][size=12px]Iām surprised to hear people talk about Price fighting for Ruizā or Klitchskoās championship belt at 7-0, but thatās not anything to be ashamed of. I only hope he continues to do well.[/size][/font]
I hope youāre right about him only being 33. Thatās way more encouraging. He could take 2 fights a year, and be around 17-0 at 38. Thatās more reasonable.
It lists him as 34.
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