Wow, I guess Notre Dame really has fallen if they aren't even considered "Legit" anymore.....
that makes zero sense. Wiess and 99% of NFL and NCAA coaches have coached a yr in HS, but you need a few years of NCAA experience. Knotts is not a good fit- at all.
plus if he did 49er football interviews in those stupid muscle shirts, Iâd have to kill him.:lmao:
[QUOTE=metro;263257]that makes zero sense. Wiess and 99% of NFL and NCAA coaches have coached a yr in HS, but you need a few years of NCAA experience. Knotts is not a good fit- at all.
plus if he did 49er football interviews in those stupid muscle shirts, Iâd have to kill him.:lmao:[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the fact that Notre Dame hired High School coach Gerry Faust to coach the most high profile football program in the country and he had absolutely no college or pro experience.
I was referring to the fact that Notre Dame hired High School coach Gerry Faust to coach the most high profile football program in the country and he had absolutely no college or pro experience.
I donât think comparing 1981 and 2007 are apples to apples. Anyway, it didnât work out too good, he ran the program in the ground. So I stand by my thoughts that hiring Tom Knotts would be a disaster, and legit progams (in 2007) donât hire high school coaches. If Notre Dame tried that today, theyâd be the laughing stock of football.
Yes, we could, but I donât think that would be a good hire. We need someone with D1A experience (atleast assistant coaching experience in D1A). Like USF got with Leavitt.
[QUOTE=919R;263297]Yes, we could, but I donât think that would be a good hire. We need someone with D1A experience (atleast assistant coaching experience in D1A). Like USF got with Leavitt.[/QUOTE]
Are you people serious? Whereâs all of this money coming from? Donât forget
what itâs gonna cost just to get a football team on a field. I like high
standards, too. But you gotta learn how to walk before you try to run.
Thinking of candidates like a âBobby Bowdenâ type is a pipe dream.
Get real.
It would be crazy to start a football program with someone that hasnât had some success at the college level. Knotts helped at Duke shortly and came back, it certainly wasnât success. If he wants to coach, we need to say thanks but no thanks and go find someone with experience. Putting him on the staff wouldnât necessarily be bad, but not as the head coach. He is a heck of a high school coach, and he may even have some recruiting experience but this would be an entirely different monster. I like the idea of the Catawba coach, but my suggestion would be Scott Satterfield, the OC at Appalachian State.
Who said anything about a âBobby Bowden type coachâ? We certainly donât need to hire a hs coach (with VERY limited college experience/success), as head coach though! Now as an assistant (ie;QB coach, or MAYBE offensive coordinator) I think Knotts would probably be a good selection and certainly would give us some end-roads to some quality recruits!
[QUOTE=dax;263298]Independence coach coached at duke for a year.[/QUOTE]
I had not mentioned that on purposeâŚ
[QUOTE=ninerball49;263315]all i know is weâre talking about getting a new football coach on this boardâŚand thatâs the coolest thing iâve seen in a long time.[/QUOTE]
I agree. This is so awesome!
[QUOTE=survivor45;263342]How 'bout someone like this? Is familiar with the region (born in East Spencer) and his re-hiring might not stir up much of a fuss by the UNC system.
I would love to have Him(Torbush) as Def. Coordinator and Knotts as Offensive Coordinator, then maybe Danny Ford as head coach. I would like our chances to be ranked very quicklyâŚ
What about�
Tyrone Nix, defensive coordinator at South Carolina. Jim Leavitt was defensive coordinator at KSU for 4 years before going to USF. Great defense down in columbia, Spurrier trained, defensive coordinator at southern miss before that, so he would be familiar with CUSA.
Satterfield (OC at App State) would be a good choice with the type of âhigh octaneâ offense he likes to run. Someone with Knottsâs offensive mind would support/buy into that style of play and is obviously a local connection. "Nas"Carl Torbush would be a good addition on the defensive side - heck, if he can do it at UNC-CH, then there is hope for him every where! Initially, weâve got to have someone in here that would exhibit an all out offensive attack - to put butts in the seats, but over the years the defense will âcatch upâ and would be formidable in itâs own right. All 3 would be taking a âstep upâ
[QUOTE=Jimmyhat49er;263343]I would love to have Him(Torbush) as Def. Coordinator and Knotts as Offensive Coordinator, then maybe Danny Ford as head coach. I would like our chances to be ranked very quicklyâŚ[/QUOTE]
Danny Ford? :ohmy::unsure:
I would rather not be on probation for our inaugeral home game.
[QUOTE]Ford had a 96-29-4 record at Clemson, including the 1981 national championship, but his teams were [B]twice[/B] placed on probation for rules infractions. Ford was implicated personally in the first, but was cleared of any direct involvement in the second.[/QUOTE]
Thatâs not to mention that many of his players had run-ins with the law during his tenure. After leaving Clemson, he went to Arkansas where he amassed an impressive 26-30-1 record in five seasons. If his shady recruiting history does not scare you, I hope his record at Arkansas does. Houston Nutt has amassed a 70-47 record post-Ford at Arkansas.
I would rather not be on probation for our inaugeral home game.
Thatâs not to mention that many of his players had run-ins with the law during his tenure. After leaving Clemson, he went to Arkansas where he amassed an impressive 26-30-1 record in five seasons. If his shady recruiting history does not scare you, I hope his record at Arkansas does. Houston Nutt has amassed a 70-47 record post-Ford at Arkansas.
Danny Ford would never leave the farm for Charlotte.
You are looking for the wrong kind of coach, folks. Youâve got to find a coach that WANTS to be on the ground floor. He knows he likely will not win in his tenure. He knows how many jock straps to purchase, how many sets of pads are needed to begin. We need an organizational guru as the first coach to get it started. If he wins a game along the way, all the better.
Danny Ford would never leave the farm for Charlotte.
You are looking for the wrong kind of coach, folks. Youâve got to find a coach that WANTS to be on the ground floor. ⌠We need an organizational guru as the first coach.
Right. The first 2 years are likely to be critical for the program and for the first head coach - and there wonât even be any games to coach! Getting a top recruiter is paramount, but you would also need a tireless organizer and ambassador of the program. Extra points for anyone who really knows the local landscape.
Which is why I think this is the right person to be our football Bill Foster (the link in bold is a great read - but get a clothespin handy for your nose :lol:. The site has a stinky banner.). Heâs willing to coach at the Division II level and Iâm sure he would one day like to write a Walt Disneyesque cliched sports story of how a former head coach of a school in the Top 10 made his remarkable comeback. Seems like one of the âgood guysâ of the game, too, and a proud North Carolinian.
Knotts would make a great âassociate head coachâ. Itâs a happy marriage of a team that needs an offensive guru/local recruiter and a coach that needs to show off his chops at the collegiate level. If Torbush finds a better situation, he could step into the head coaching role without anyone questioning his lack of experience.
I donât think Torbush would be the answer for the Head Coaching position. I think we can all probably agree that Mack Brown is a pretty good recruiter⌠and the best record that Torbush could achieve is 7-5 at Carolina. That was the year after Mack Brown left, so you know there were some of Mackâs recruits still around. If you read Carlâs bio, it heavily documents his success as an assistant coach/coordinator. Note that the accolades pretty much stopped after he took the HC position. I think he would be a fine Def. Coordinator, but not Head coachâŚ