Personally I think interviewing a high school sophomore about his college/NBA future is a bit premature anyway. I take everything that comes out of his mouth with a grain of salt.
[i]Originally posted by ninerID+Jan 25 2005, 08:04 AM-->
[b]QUOTE[/b] (ninerID @ Jan 25 2005, 08:04 AM)
Iāll take talent for one year, any day. If nothing else, I like seeing our name thrown into the recruiting mix with the perceived ābig boys.ā Itās big news when we land a kid of his calibre, regardless of how long he plays for us. One year is better than none and yes, you just simply recruit knowing you may only have him for one year.
It means weāre finally being seen on the big scene.
Last night had 36 points and 15 rebounds against a very good high school b-ball team. Thats pretty damn impressive.
Iām sorry if I missed it⦠but what is everyone complaining about?! I thought it was a good article.
[b]We're only going to have Marcus Bennett one year. I'd rather have him for a year than not at all.If youāre only going to have a guy for one year, you just recruit for the next year like heās a senior.
Year after Rodney, we went to the NCAA tournament with an at large bid. Terrible, I know. [/b]
The difference is that we know weāre only going to have Bennett for a year, you donāt necessarily know for sure with big-time freshman. What if he decides to stay for a 2nd or 3rd year? You canāt recruit someone to fill his shoes until you know heās going pro. Rodney didnāt decide until late March to turn pro. All through the previous recruiting season, we thought he would be back and so did any major PF recruits. Thus we missed out on anyone to fill his shoes for the next couple of seasons. We just happened to have Cam to step in and take his place the next year, but it really hurt us in 02-03. The plus out of Rodney leaving unexpectedly is that we got Withers because we didnāt get a PF the year before, but we had a down year while Withers was learning the ropes. If you know how long the player is going to remain, then you can recruit for it. If not, you and any potential recruits must assume the player is going to remain. When he leaves unexpectedly, unless youāre Dook, UNC, Kansas, etc., that void will not be filled right away. Iām all for getting big-time talent, but if youāre not an elite program itās like playing with fire.
[i]Originally posted by X-49er[/i]@Jan 25 2005, 11:53 AM [b][b]We're only going to have Marcus Bennett one year. I'd rather have him for a year than not at all.If youāre only going to have a guy for one year, you just recruit for the next year like heās a senior.
Year after Rodney, we went to the NCAA tournament with an at large bid. Terrible, I know. [/b]
The difference is that we know weāre only going to have Bennett for a year, you donāt necessarily know for sure with big-time freshman. What if he decides to stay for a 2nd or 3rd year? You canāt recruit someone to fill his shoes until you know heās going pro. Rodney didnāt decide until late March to turn pro. All through the previous recruiting season, we thought he would be back and so did any major PF recruits. Thus we missed out on anyone to fill his shoes for the next couple of seasons. We just happened to have Cam to step in and take his place the next year, but it really hurt us in 02-03. The plus out of Rodney leaving unexpectedly is that we got Withers because we didnāt get a PF the year before, but we had a down year while Withers was learning the ropes. If you know how long the player is going to remain, then you can recruit for it. If not, you and any potential recruits must assume the player is going to remain. When he leaves unexpectedly, unless youāre Dook, UNC, Kansas, etc., that void will not be filled right away. Iām all for getting big-time talent, but if youāre not an elite program itās like playing with fire. [/b]
Well that is where communication between the player and coach comes in to play. Iām sure Bobby would have regular conversations with Beasley about what his intentions for the next year would be, and would recruit accordingly. It sounds like he will only be here 1 year (barring an injury) if he comes at all, so I donāt think there would be any guessing game.
Also⦠the fans may have been kept guessing about Rodney until March, but I doubt if the coaches were. I donāt even think Rodney attended classes in the spring semester, so I think he made his intentions pretty clear.
You canāt just refuse to recruit players that may end up going to the NBA early if you want to build a successful team.
It was evident Rodney was one and done when I heard his mother took out an insurance policy against him being hurt. It was even more evident when he got hurt in the USF game that was it.
[b] I'm sorry if I missed it... but what is everyone complaining about?! I thought it was a good article. [/b]
What he said.
[i]Originally posted by Anborn[/i]@Jan 25 2005, 11:52 AM [b] I'm sorry if I missed it... but what is everyone complaining about?! I thought it was a good article. [/b]I have to agree.....and would even add that what is said is what I would really expect. If nothing else, all the pub on the kid can only help Charlotte basketball recognition on a national level. Thanks for the article Jana and Mike!
look at the recruits cuse gets now after carmello, it could help to put us on the map.
[b]it could help to put us on the map.[/b]
We still have this yearās team to do that for us.
[b]You can't just refuse to recruit players that may end up going to the NBA early if you want to build a successful team. [/b]
I donāt disagree at all, but you have to also accept the negatives that come with it when he leaves early if youāre rooting to go after them initially. With all the bad-mouthing of Rodney that happens on this messageboard, itās obvious that many of our fans donāt like the idea or have double-standards.
[b]Also... the fans may have been kept guessing about Rodney until March, but I doubt if the coaches were. I don't even think Rodney attended classes in the spring semester, so I think he made his intentions pretty clear.[/b]
I donāt know anything about the ānot attending classesā, but I donāt think it was set in stone until it was realized that he was going to be a lottery pick. By then, it was too late to try to find some big shoes to replace him.
Quit complaining, the kidās a beast and we ALL want him, no matter how long.
Article was good, I thought it would give me something I didnāt know, but it didnāt.
Except for that whole macaroni and cheese detail which I was dying to knowā¦
Iāll take that kid for a year and then Iāll hate him after that.
[Rodney didnāt decide until late March to turn pro. All through the previous recruiting season, we thought he would be back and so did any major PF recruits. Thus we missed out on anyone to fill his shoes for the next couple of seasons.]
I can tell you first hand, Rodney knew he was one and done at the beginning of the year. He said if they made it deep into NCAA tournament than he would be gone, the decision was cemented after the injury against USF. Winning CUSA tourney and going to 2nd round was enough exposure for him.
[i]Originally posted by finalfourtyniners[/i]@Jan 25 2005, 12:34 PM [b] look at the recruits cuse gets now after carmello, it could help to put us on the map. [/b]??? The Cuse was an elite program long before Carmello. They were getting McD's AA's when he was in diapers.
[b]I can tell you first hand, Rodney knew he was one and done at the beginning of the year. [/b]
If he did, the coaches didnāt know it until later on in the season.
[b]He said if they made it deep into NCAA tournament than he would be gone, the decision was cemented after the injury against USF. Winning CUSA tourney and going to 2nd round was enough exposure for him. [/b]
Thatās correct, but all that didnāt happen until after the major PF recruits from that year were already signed or committed to another school. We had no chance of getting somebody near as good as Rodney to fill the hole he left in our lineup. Cam filled the position well, but he was already in the lineup.
[i]Originally posted by X-49er[/i]@Jan 25 2005, 01:35 PM [b][b]You can't just refuse to recruit players that may end up going to the NBA early if you want to build a successful team. [/b]I donāt disagree at all, but you have to also accept the negatives that come with it when he leaves early if youāre rooting to go after them initially. With all the bad-mouthing of Rodney that happens on this messageboard, itās obvious that many of our fans donāt like the idea or have double-standards.
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I see what youāre saying. But whatās our best team and best player in most recent history? I think it was Rodney White and the '01 team.
Iād also say that we should be careful how much we hype up this guy, only to possibly be dissappointed again. Heās only in 10th grade, who knows what will happen. Iāve read threads about how thereās a 60% chance heāll go straight pro, heās a beast, heās one and done. Letās just wait and see. All the other talk just feeds to the fire of what we complain about (getting into kids heads). I would venture to guess nobody on here has even seen him play, yet weāre talking about when he goes to the pros. The first we heard of him he was the #1 or 2 ranked player in the country. Now the article in the Observer quotes Gibbons as saying heās top 20.
[b]Anyone know when the Bojangles shootout is on Charlotte?[/b]
1st weekend of the year at Latin. Dell Curry tourn.