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Would you really want Huggins to coach your kid?

Courtesy of LH over on the A-10 boards

[B]Re: Now i understand why temple wanted no part of thuggins[/B] Here you go dog. The list needs some cleaning up and so additions like Tyree Evan (UC recruit under Huggins in 2005 that is facing rape charges.) and Roy Bright (fired a gun, A GUN on capus at UC).

1.) Recruits Dontonio Wingfield. Wingfield fails out of his hometown high school and Huggins moves him to Cincinnati to attend a local high school so that he is eligible to play for UC the next year. Wingfield beats up his grandmother, destroys part of her house and is arrested on assault charges. Huggins and UC reward Wingfield with a full scholarship. In his first season, Wingfield spends his holiday in jail as part of his punishment for beating up his grandmother. He is allowed to play on the team. When it is convenient for UC and Wingfield, he spends time in jail. Wingfield leaves UC early and is drafted in the second round to the NBA. He rides the pine, is eventually cut. He is then cut from his CBA team. Wingfield is currently in jail.

2.) Recruits Damon Flint after Ohio State is put on probation for their recruitment of Mr. Flint. Huggins and UC give Flint a full scholarship. While at UC, Flint beats up his girlfriend and steals her purse after an argument. He remains on the team. After four years of eligibility expire Flint moves on from UC, without a degree.

3.) Recruits Art Long. Long, a convicted drug dealer is awarded with a full scholarship by Huggins and UC. While at UC, Long is questioned by police outside of a local bar. Long subsequently punches the police officers horse. Long remains on the team. When Long’s eligibility expires, he moves on, without a degree.

4.) Recruits Darnell Burton. Burton is given a scholarship. While Burton is at UC, he breaks the university’s drug policy. Instead of being punished for breaking this policy, UC changes the drug policy to accommodate Burton and the team.Burton goes unpunished and remains on the team. Burton’s eligibility expires, he moves on, without a degree.

5.) Recruits Ruben Patterson. Patterson is given a scholarship. While at UC, Patterson is caught driving a car and living in a condo that he did not pay for. Clear violations of NCAA rules. Patterson is allowed to continue playing for UC.

6.) Charles Williams is recruited by UC. Williams is given a scholarship. While at UC, it is discovered that Williams was not fully eligible after leaving JC. The NCAA finally steps in and puts UC on probation. Huggins is clearly to blame for the breaking of the NCAA rules but uses his assistant coach as a scape goat. Nothing more happens to Huggins.

7.) Recruits Donald Little. Little is given a scholarship. While at UC, Little is pulled over in his car and is cited for DUI, driving without a license and possession of an illegal substance. He pleads the charges down and remains on the team. A few months later, Little beats up a woman bar tender at a local bar and Little is charged with assault. Little is kicked off the team. The charges are again pleaded down. Meanwhile, BJ Grove leaves the team for personal matters and UC has a real problem with a lack of big men for next year’s team. Even though Little plead guilty to numerous charges, he is allowed back on the team.

8.) Recruits B.J. Grove. Grove is given a scholarship by UC. While at UC, Grove beats up his 9 month pregnant girlfriend, throws her into the bath tub and whips a beer bottle at her when she is down. Grove is arrested for assault but the charges are dropped when Grove’s girlfriend refuses to testify. It would be hard for Grove to provide for his girlfriend and new baby if he was in jail. Grove is allowed to remain on team.

Anything new you ask? Well let’s revisit Donald Little shall we. After being let back on the team, Little plays out the season. On April 1, 2002, Donald Little calls up his roommate and invites him over to a friends house. There, Little begins to beat his roommate along with others, throws weights on his head, stabs him and burns him before asking his friends to take his roommate to Columbus to kill him. He is arrested and after a few days pass, Little is once again removed from the team. While “off the team”, Little is invited back for awards night where he takes home an award. Even though he is supposedly off the team, there he is right there with the team participating in a team event. Little is currently still facing the charges of assault and attempted murder. He will no doubt be brought back on the team if his charges are dropped, reduced or if he escapes prison.

Besides the charges that face Little, there is a question of how Little was able to obtain $2,500.00 in cash that was the source of the beat down Little gave to his roommate. Drug dealing has not been ruled out nor has the rumor that Huggins pays his players like Ruben Patterson.

That would be enough for 2002 but there is more. UC recruit and current student Erik Hicks was shot in the leg after he was involved in a drug deal or gang fight gone bad. Whichever it was cannot be determined because Hicks refused to identify the shooter, probably because Hicks shot him first. The matter is still unresolved.

This is all before the 2002-2003 season begins. God only knows what other problems and trouble will come starting in November. Which current Cat do you all think will be the first to be arrested this season?

How about Robert Whaley, who raped a 13 year old and is now facing new felony charges. Good pick-up!

I’d rather give TMB and co. reasons why they should come to Charlotte as opposed to reasons to not go elsewhere.

interesting statements

This is not relevant. I have never read anything about Michael Beasley, at all, that questions his integrity of character. Give this young man a break.

Folks, lighter up.

This thread should be deleted. Please Mr. Moderator- do your thing.

[QUOTE=NinerLoudNProud;165211]I’d rather give TMB and co. reasons why they should come to Charlotte as opposed to reasons to not go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

How about these for a start: (1) there’s an NBA presence in this town 24/7.
(2) ESPN U is here
(3) several high profile, national sports commentators LIVE here.
(4) No dust storms
(5) The air does not smell like cow $4!+

clt adds enlightment. dont forget about that.

[QUOTE=77niner;165270]This is not relevant. I have never read anything about Michael Beasley, at all, that questions his integrity of character. Give this young man a break.

Folks, lighter up.

This thread should be deleted. Please Mr. Moderator- do your thing.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with Bealsey. The thread was started to show the type of “father figure” he would be playiing for in Manhattan.

How about these for a start: (1) there's an NBA presence in this town 24/7. (2) ESPN U is here (3) several high profile, national sports commentators LIVE here. (4) No dust storms (5) The air does not smell like cow $4!+

Well there Captain Ignorant how are you doing today?

1, 2 and 3 sure.

4 and 5 show your a dumbass

[QUOTE=Nosales;165310]Well there Captain Ignorant how are you doing today?

1, 2 and 3 sure.

4 and 5 show your a dumbass[/QUOTE]

Why are you here?

He’s a KSU fan…what the hell else is he gonna do? The final four banners from the 50’s need dusting!

And how many final four banners does UC have?? Well, I see that the meltdown is still going on today. The whole list of Huggins recruits is irrelevant to KSU. There are problems at every school, even UC. I still find it strange that it is somehow unethical for Huggins to hire an asst coach who is a good recruiter and has personal connection to good players. The decision is really up to the player. He may want to go play for a coach and he may not. But, really, every one here just goes on dissing Manhattan when they’ve never been there. KU certainly hasn’t had anyone decide they don’t want to live in Kansas for four years. There certainly isn’t any valid reason that anyone wouldn’t want to drive 70 miles on down the road. Come on…I’m sure than UC is a very nice school… but it is hardly big time. It isn’t in a major conference. I think that Beasley was ONLY considering UC because of Hill. If the kid is that good, why isn’t he going to Duke, or NC, or Wake?

[QUOTE=77niner;165270]This is not relevant. I have never read anything about Michael Beasley, at all, that questions his integrity of character. Give this young man a break.

Folks, lighter up.

This thread should be deleted. Please Mr. Moderator- do your thing.[/QUOTE]

???

How does it question his integrity? He would just be following Hill…wouldn’t it question Hill’s for working for a guy like that?

[QUOTE=kanman;165313]And how many final four banners does UC have?? Well, I see that the meltdown is still going on today. The whole list of Huggins recruits is irrelevant to KSU. There are problems at every school, even UC. I still find it strange that it is somehow unethical for Huggins to hire an asst coach who is a good recruiter and has personal connection to good players. The decision is really up to the player. He may want to go play for a coach and he may not. But, really, every one here just goes on dissing Manhattan when they’ve never been there. KU certainly hasn’t had anyone decide they don’t want to live in Kansas for four years. There certainly isn’t any valid reason that anyone wouldn’t want to drive 70 miles on down the road. Come on…I’m sure than UC is a very nice school… but it is hardly big time. It isn’t in a major conference. I think that Beasley was ONLY considering UC because of Hill. If the kid is that good, why isn’t he going to Duke, or NC, or Wake?[/QUOTE]

Ok…I won’t get into a pissing match with you on tradition…your school has some early tradition…ours more recent. It really doesn’t matter.

Look…you guys are gonna catch some crap…face it. You hired a soul eating slimeball to run your program. A guy who WE have MAJOR history with. Then…to make matters worse…he comes by and pulls this backstabbing bullshit against his “good friend”. We are kinda mad. Thats the reality. If you don’t like it…go post with the other 12 KSU fans on your board.

Its nothing personal…just some healthy venting.

Anyway…good luck…I’m sure it will be nice not being the door mat of your conference anymore!

Really, how horrible…a player actually wanting to play for a coach that he knows and admires. If the coach changes school, why wouldn’t the kid want to change too. Early commitments are broken all the time. There is nothing unethical about the entire thing. Huggins hired Hill and if players want to give them a recruiting look, more power to them.

[QUOTE=kanman;165313]And how many final four banners does UC have?? Well, I see that the meltdown is still going on today. The whole list of Huggins recruits is irrelevant to KSU. There are problems at every school, even UC. I still find it strange that it is somehow unethical for Huggins to hire an asst coach who is a good recruiter and has personal connection to good players. The decision is really up to the player. He may want to go play for a coach and he may not. But, really, every one here just goes on dissing Manhattan when they’ve never been there. KU certainly hasn’t had anyone decide they don’t want to live in Kansas for four years. There certainly isn’t any valid reason that anyone wouldn’t want to drive 70 miles on down the road. Come on…I’m sure than UC is a very nice school… but it is hardly big time. It isn’t in a major conference. I think that Beasley was ONLY considering UC because of Hill. If the kid is that good, why isn’t he going to Duke, or NC, or Wake?[/QUOTE]

ummm yea uc is in the big east(major conference), and i didn’t know beasly ever considered them???

It’s not so much that huggins broke some NCAA rules…which he hasn’t…YET.

It’s more that Lutz and Huggins have a history…Lutz stood by huggins during that UC crap…and then huggins kicks him in the gut.

But who care’s…huggy will pollute your campus like he did UC…

and he will look terrible in purple…everybody does.

So, I get it… you want to insult my school and my coach, but if I point out the ridiculousness of your accusation, I’m wanting a ‘pissing contest’. I really don’t give a darn about the baseless INACCURATE rants about KSU, Manhattan, or Kansas in general. One recruiting visit by any player will prove those things entirely wrong. Now, you can call Huggins any name your want…it doesn’t make it true. I think you are right about one thing… Huggins will NEVER be given the same consideration for the same actions as every other coach. KU hired players fathers, juco coaches and breaks rules all the time… yet old Roy Williams gave them the ‘aw shucks’, 'I didn’t realize it was wrong" and everyone buys it. Every single thing Huggins does will be questioned… Fine… the us against the world attitude may win a lot of games, so I’m fine with it.

Huggins ‘kicks him in the gut’… what? By offering a good asst. a job at a bigger conference with more exposure. Maybe Hill thinks that being an asst. for Huggins in the Big 12 is a stepping stone to a head job. It happens every day to every school. Why so sensitive?

Go for it man…love huggins…you guys gotta find SOME way to gets some games in March.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9343554

There is nothing unethical about the entire thing.

Read something from someone with a little more sports/basketball knowledge than yourself… definitely in the area of ethics.