A Sporting News article today (April 15 issue) detailed the proposed NBA age-limit agreement to be included in the next Collective Bargaining Agreement and it will do nothing to divert Highschoolers thru the College game.
Both sides have basically already agreed to it in principle.
If the minimum age requirement is set at 20, then obviously a player will not be allowed into the NBA until he is that age. However, if a kid wants to come out of Highschool and enter the draft, he still can. He can enter the draft, be drafted AND collect their full rookie-scale salaries…but they will have to play in the expanded NBDL until the age limit is reached.
This way, teams can still draft “projects” based on “potential” but they can place them in the “development” league (minor league) for a few years to practice and develop under slightly inferior competition with more “hands on” coaching.
So they don’t go directly to the NBA but they go to the NBA’s developmental league…the NBDL. Either way, they can earn their money in the NBDL or go to College.
If you’re Beasley…do you go to Charlotte to wait until you’re 20…or do you enter the draft, start earning Millions of dollars and play in the NBDL.
If that article is true then Stern and company have just f*cked college basketball. What kid does NOT think that he can play in the NBA. So your choices are going to college and having to go to class or concentrating on basketball 24/7 and also getting paid a little for it.
The college game is really looking like a league of Vermont /Bucknell type teams if this keeps building steam.
[i]Originally posted by TheShowDawg[/i]@Apr 7 2005, 03:33 PM
[b] If that article is true then Stern and company have just f*cked college basketball. What kid does NOT think that he can play in the NBA. So your choices are going to college and having to go to class or concentrating on basketball 24/7 and also getting paid a little for it.
The college game is really looking like a league of Vermont /Bucknell type teams if this keeps building steam. [/b]
This is how Baseball does it, I don’t know how well it works, because I don’t watch baseball.
this is the first i have heard of the set up. Might be reading it wrong but it doesn’t sound any worse than the status quo. They still have to be good enough to be drafted. There is no mention of the draft being expanded. And if they are good enough to get drafted and get paid to sit the bench they can do the same thing but play in the nbdl. Doesn’t seem like it will help or hurt to me
The problem is a lot of these kids are already making bad decisions without this added incentive.
What happens if a kid makes a bad decision and declares for the draft out of high school and things do not work out and he then decides to come to college and play basketball? Will the NCAA allow that? The same NCAA that decided on Marcus Bennett’s eligibility! The kid could be forced to DII and then you are getting watered down at the DI level on at least 2 fronts.
I know why Coach Lutz wants to go to one of the top 4 conferences if all this comes down. I would to if my job revolved arounding recruiting in the A10 compared to the SEC. The top 4 conferences will still have a place for the top talent.
Can kids declare for the draft and still come to college instead of the NBDL and not lose eligibility?
[b]If the minimum age requirement is set at 20, then obviously a player will not be allowed into the NBA until he is that age. However, if a kid wants to come out of Highschool and enter the draft, he still can. He can enter the draft, be drafted AND collect their full rookie-scale salaries....but they will have to play in the expanded NBDL until the age limit is reached.[/b]
Wow.
If that is the structure, I can see it surving the court system. (something I was highly dubious of).
What the NBA had to avoid was de facto wage scaling for minors & denial of opportunities. (AKA Age discrimination of the most obvious type).
The only caveat here is if the league somehow renegotiates the draft’s structured salaries - then they will be walking on eggshells.
It’s ingenious, but I hate it. If the average inner-city kid (which is the stereotype for high profile recruits) is presented with the choice of 1) free education or 2) pay for play… which are they gonna choose?
why can’t the nba turn into hockey nowhere to be found. Attendance is down in the nba maybe they will start losing money. Oh yea can we trade the bobcats for a football team?
[i]Originally posted by TheShowDawg[/i]@Apr 7 2005, 03:57 PM
[b] Can kids declare for the draft and still come to college instead of the NBDL and not lose eligibility? [/b]
I'm assuming that will continue to work like it does today. If you declare but pull out without signing with an agent, you can then go to college without losing eligibility.
The basis behind this structure of the age limit helps the NBA but only the NBA. The kids can now get coached more, get PT against bigger competition (than HS or college) and get better before coming into the NBA. Plus, the Union is OK with it since the kids will still be able to earn their FULL rookie-scale money based on thier draft position.
[i]Originally posted by NinerPride[/i]@Apr 7 2005, 03:51 PM
[b] They still have to be good enough to be drafted. There is no mention of the draft being expanded. [/b]
I could easily see them expand the draft to more rounds and redo the wage scale. You could then have 4 rounds of high school kids getting drafted and sent to the NBDL to get paid to play. Where is college basketball then?
I believe this is different than how baseball does it. I believe baseball players can be drafted out of hight school but it is their choice whether or not to sign. If they decide to go to college I don’t think they can reenter the draft until after their junior year in college. This is just how i believe the rules currently work and may be totally wrong. However I still think this is a good way to go with college basketball whether it’s the way baseball does it or not. Leave the NBDL out of it, don’t you won’t to see a bunch of high school kids play with ex-draft picks such as Kirk Haston, Omar Cook, and every one on this boards favorite player the legend that is Mahktar N’diaye (spelling?).
How does this discourage the Korleone Young’s of the world? This does nothing but encourage more kids to take a gamble. This is worse than the old plan. This encourages more teams to take High School kids because now they can stuff them away for a year or two in the NBDL. This is awful. The NBA is greed, pure greed. I hope it goes bankrupt.
i’m sure the nba views the ncaa as a competitor, whether or not they would like to pull a Wal-mart and destroy competition is anyone’s guess. they are playing a risky game if they are.
combine this with the big confernces talk of breaking away from NCAA, signs on the wall do not look good for the Niners.
EUREKA, I’VE GOT IT!!! How about we all say f### watching and attending all sports. Let’s get active again, play a little rec league b-ball and softball. Maybe take the kids to the park, play a liitle golf with them and spend our money on something crazy, like charity.
Just a thought, would never work. Besides, TSD kicked me off of a softball team once because I drank too much. Or maybe it was a lack of talent, I forget. I’m still wounded however.
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