NC ACC football teams are awful

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It is hard to recruit for basketball in this state but football might be a different story. Does any team in this state have a good coach?

Duke is just plain terrible. I know people joke about them never being good but honestly they are worse than an 0-3 record. The pieces i watched on that game made it look like i was VT playing a video game set to very easy where i rout the team 113-0.

Amato is gone, and I mean before the 06 elections. Southern Miss is good, but did they have a first round draft pick last year? did they have a draft pick? Lets say Southern Miss is better, are they really 20 points better?
Wake played another cupcake, but at least they are 3-0 agaisnt them not 1-2 like the above.

UNC…okay for all you people that say we would get steam rolled the first years in college football, please tell me you saw the score of this game. UNC by a field goal, are you kidding me? there is not one player on furmans team that was like, “man i dont know, NCSU, Wake, UNC, or should i be a paladin” Furman actually lead with 5 min to go in the game and put up 42 points on UNC.

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This should seriously be another part of CFI’s arguments for football. We should put something about this on the website. For people who say we won’t be ok in our first years, atleast we might be the best football team in all of NC. Imagine if we had that title under our name that soon in our football program’s life. It would be huge for us but we need to move fast so that we can be sure to take advantage of this.

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How funny would it be if these NC ACC schools accused their students/fans of being Charlotte 49er Football Wal-Mart fans?

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Go Hokies! hahahaha …that’s the reason the north carolina schools look like crap…beamer ball.

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We would still be behind the 8-ball in football recruiting as well because of the ACC hype machine. And even moreso than basketball, Virginia, Clemson, Tennesee, and South Carolina would hurt us severely in football recruiting. We can compete with them for basketball recruits despite their big-conference affiliations, but would have a near impossible time competing for football recruits. The Big 4 teams get beat yearly in recruiting by those teams, so we would likely fair even worse. It would take quite a while to even top a Big 4 team in recruiting, but at least none of them would have National Champion banners to point at when they were showing recruits around their facilities.

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We would have a chance of being the best D1A team in the state this year even if it was our first year in D1A.

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We would still be behind the 8-ball in football recruiting as well because of the ACC hype machine. And even moreso than basketball, Virginia, Clemson, Tennesee, and South Carolina would hurt us severely in football recruiting. We can compete with them for basketball recruits despite their big-conference affiliations, but would have a near impossible time competing for football recruits. The Big 4 teams get beat yearly in recruiting by those teams, so we would likely fair even worse. It would take quite a while to even top a Big 4 team in recruiting, but at least none of them would have National Champion banners to point at when they were showing recruits around their facilities.

Indeed. I do think that we could be competitive on the I-AA level within a few seasons. If Coastal Carolina can do it…:smile:

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We would still be behind the 8-ball in football recruiting as well because of the ACC hype machine. And even moreso than basketball, Virginia, Clemson, Tennesee, and South Carolina would hurt us severely in football recruiting. We can compete with them for basketball recruits despite their big-conference affiliations, but would have a near impossible time competing for football recruits. The Big 4 teams get beat yearly in recruiting by those teams, so we would likely fair even worse. It would take quite a while to even top a Big 4 team in recruiting, but at least none of them would have National Champion banners to point at when they were showing recruits around their facilities.

bullcrap. The big four all have a history of being good basketball programs and kids grew up watching them for basketball. They are all four terrible in football and for the most part always have been. Plus there is maybe one local football game on a week for jefferson pilot and this past week it was VT Duke, who wants to watch that? and now the ACC is spread so wide that it will rarely involve two teams from NC. The involvement of cable television is also going to help us as college sports becomes more national and kids aren’t born and raised on Jefferson Pilot as much. If we some how got our act together and were able to get big games in BoA ever so often it would really help. Pitt and South Florida both play in NFL stadiums so it does happen.

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Other than WF, the other 3 suck.
We could hire assts. from FL, TX, & CA, so we can recruit in those states.
And hire a Samoan to recruit linemen. They’re big, & most go to U of Hawaii because they’re a similar race. If we had a Samoan asst., the big boys of blocking would come here.

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[QUOTE=ninerID;188785]If we some how got our act together and were able to get big games in BoA ever so often it would really help. Pitt and South Florida both play in NFL stadiums so it does happen.[/QUOTE]

And folks think we have trouble getting big names into Halton when we have 5-6 non-conference dates to get those games, and a good program to boot. No big football school is going to play us on our home field and pad our gate in football until we win something. Their fans would likely outnumber us for a while even playing the Apps and Furmans of the world, but the big programs certainly aren’t going to give a home game away to an upstart program.

[QUOTE=ninerID;188785] bullcrap. The big four all have a history of being good basketball programs and kids grew up watching them for basketball. They are all four terrible in football and for the most part always have been. Plus there is maybe one local football game on a week for jefferson pilot and this past week it was VT Duke, who wants to watch that? and now the ACC is spread so wide that it will rarely involve two teams from NC. The involvement of cable television is also going to help us as college sports becomes more national and kids aren’t born and raised on Jefferson Pilot as much. [/QUOTE]

Besides VTech and Charlotte fans, who’s going to tune in to see Charlotte against VTech? Even though UNC and State have not played well lately, they’re still getting Top 25 recruiting classes most every year according to reputable recruiting sites (I used Scout.com). They may not be showing it on the field, but they are landing the recruits. Wake is getting recruits that fit their program, and Grobe is redshirting most all of his freshman every year. That’s how they’re staying competitive. We should be able to out-recruit Wake and Duke within 5 years of turning D1, but I would not count on it. It will take a lot longer to top UNC and State. I don’t give a crap how bad they’ve been on the field, a recruit will still choose them over us because of the ACC. Clemson, South Carolina, Virginia, and Virginia Tech are proving this in basketball. They have been terrible at times over the last 10 years, yet we are still getting beat by them with regularity when we face them head-to-head for regional recruits. The only thing they have over us is ACC or SEC, nothing else. Not better facilities, not better coaches, not a great history. They are simply in a more publicized conference.

Below are the recruiting rankings from the teams we would be competing against for football recruits regionally each year. Below those are the teams UAB competes against every year for a comparision of how they’ve stacked up over the last four years.

[B][U]2003 Recruiting Rankings (Scout.com)[/U][/B]

Tennessee #7
NC State #9
Georgia #11
North Carolina #13
South Carolina #15
Virginia #17
Virginia Tech #21
Georgia Tech #34
Wake Forest #42
Clemson #43
Duke #76
East Carolina #81

Alabama #45
Auburn #16
Mississippi #32
Mississippi State #20
Memphis #68
Vanderbilt #61
Southern Mississippi #78
Troy State #72
UAB #97

[B][U]2004 Recruiting Rankings (Scout.com)[/U][/B]

Georgia #6
Tennessee #9
North Carolina #18
NC State #20
Virginia #25
Virginia Tech #26
South Carolina #30
Georgia Tech #35
Clemson #40
Wake Forest #61
Duke #65
East Carolina #73

Alabama #19
Auburn #31
Mississippi #39
Mississippi State #60
Memphis #80
Vanderbilt #62
Southern Mississippi #69
Troy State #74
UAB #101

[B][U]2005 Recruiting Rankings (Scout.com)[/U][/B]

Tennessee #1
Georgia #4
Virginia #14
Virginia Tech #18
Clemson #19
South Carolina #21
NC State #23
Duke #31
North Carolina #34
Georgia Tech #48
Wake Forest #60
East Carolina #84

Alabama #16
Auburn #22
Mississippi #29
Mississippi State #39
Memphis #72
Vanderbilt #76
Southern Mississippi #66
Troy State #68
UAB #87

[B][U]2006 Recruiting Rankings (Scout.com)[/U][/B]

Georgia #4
Clemson #22
Tennessee #24
North Carolina #25
Virginia Tech #31
South Carolina #33
Duke #36
NC State #42
Georgia Tech #49
Virginia #53
East Carolina #64
Wake Forest #65

Alabama #18
Auburn #9
Mississippi #15
Mississippi State #39
Memphis #67
Vanderbilt #67
Southern Mississippi #90
Troy State #89
UAB #68

[B][U]2003-2006 4-Year Average Recruiting Rank[/U][/B]

Georgia = 6.25
Tennessee = 10.25
North Carolina = 22.5
NC State = 23.5
Virginia Tech = 24
South Carolina = 24.75
Virginia = 27.25
Clemson = 31
Georgia Tech = 41.5
Duke = 52
Wake Forest = 57
East Carolina = 75.5

Alabama = 24.5
Auburn = 19.5
Mississippi = 28.75
Mississippi State = 39.5
Memphis = 71.75
Vanderbilt = 66.5
Southern Mississippi = 75.75
Troy State = 75.75
UAB = 88.25

If we should start a program, we should first try to outrecruit ECU, Wake, and Duke. UAB probably thought they would be outrecruiting Ole Miss and Mississippi State pretty quickly, and catch Auburn and Alabama not long afterwards. Not hardly. They did not even out-recruit lowly Troy until last year. Though their in-state competition is more tradition-rich than ours, they only have three teams to compete against for recruits. We have 5, and Clemson and South Carolina are just as close to us. Despite what some think, we won’t be outrecruiting the ACC schools as soon as we become D1, whenever that is.

Spare me the comparisions to South Florida. The leftovers in the state of Florida are way better than what we will get in our first five year of D1. Apples and oranges to try to compare their recruiting to what ours will be.