Kind of hard to argue with this…
Posted on front page of Charlotte observer online
Now at 6007, VCU and Temple home games will push it up.
No one likes it, winning will solve it.
Did anyone expect it NOT to be down?
We have an apathetic fanbase.
We haven’t been to the NCAAs in almost a decade.
We haven’t been past the round of 64 in over a decade.
We’ve been terrible the past two years.
People, and especially this city, care about winners.
We aren’t winners.
Also, kind of silly to judge this season vs past seasons when a few of our biggest games haven’t come to campus yet.
His numbers don’t include the UMASS game which will bring average attendance to 6,008 and on par with last year. I think by the time the season is over we could have the best attendance since 2008. I’m not crazy about the crowds I’ve seen in Halton this year but I wouldn’t get worked up over these numbers either.
Most NCAA Division I schools would kill to have 6008 as average attendance figures. Its good we have a higher standard, but its also good to keep thing in perspective. Does this figure also include the FSU game at TWC Arena or just Halton games?
Exactly- kind of sad not to include the sellout in your numbers just so you can make a point. “The Niners have struggled to pack the gym against Radford and Lamar. Despite the fact that they played a sellout 4 days ago, those numbers do not support my argument and, therefore, have not been included. Further, when the attendance is higher following the games against VCU and Temple, I will not write an article contrary to this, because my article is stronger when I can make the points about teams that the vast majority of students haven’t heard of. Thank you for your time.”
Exactly- kind of sad not to include the sellout in your numbers just so you can make a point. “The Niners have struggled to pack the gym against Radford and Lamar. Despite the fact that they played a sellout 4 days ago, those numbers do not support my argument and, therefore, have not been included. Further, when the attendance is higher following the games against VCU and Temple, I will not write an article contrary to this, because my article is stronger when I can make the points about teams that the vast majority of students haven’t heard of. Thank you for your time.”[/quote]
He’ll probably print an article saying it was this article that helped drive attendance up. :
Exactly- kind of sad not to include the sellout in your numbers just so you can make a point. “The Niners have struggled to pack the gym against Radford and Lamar. Despite the fact that they played a sellout 4 days ago, those numbers do not support my argument and, therefore, have not been included. Further, when the attendance is higher following the games against VCU and Temple, I will not write an article contrary to this, because my article is stronger when I can make the points about teams that the vast majority of students haven’t heard of. Thank you for your time.”[/quote]
He’ll probably print an article saying it was this article that helped drive attendance up. ::)[/quote]
he didn’t include it in the numbers because the article was written before the game was played. he even mentions that the numbers would probably go up after the umass/vcu games. also, note: can’t count on the attendance for the temple home game being high if we expect to go 0-4 in the upcoming games.
Exactly- kind of sad not to include the sellout in your numbers just so you can make a point. “The Niners have struggled to pack the gym against Radford and Lamar. Despite the fact that they played a sellout 4 days ago, those numbers do not support my argument and, therefore, have not been included. Further, when the attendance is higher following the games against VCU and Temple, I will not write an article contrary to this, because my article is stronger when I can make the points about teams that the vast majority of students haven’t heard of. Thank you for your time.”[/quote]
He’ll probably print an article saying it was this article that helped drive attendance up. ::)[/quote]
he didn’t include it in the numbers because the article was written before the game was played. he even mentions that the numbers would probably go up after the umass/vcu games. also, note: can’t count on the attendance for the temple home game being high if we expect to go 0-4 in the upcoming games.[/quote]
My point stands with the timing of the article. Don’t wait and write it after the big games, because then your point wouldn’t work. Write it after several whatever games so that you can say something like this. Kind of dumb to compare a schedule that hasn’t included many of the marquee home conference matchups or HOMECOMING, while being able to include those games in previous seasons. Acknowledging that the attendance will probably go up just acknowledges that the article’s timing is flawed and probably shouldn’t have been written, but was anyway because the point looks bigger now than it actually is.
We haven’t had an exciting home slate of games till Xavier (not including FSU). When ECU could well be discribed as the biggest name on the schedule, you know its not a list of barn burners you’ve put together for the OOC list. Our fans are fairly smart, they want to see good games against at least halfway decent teams. I think we’re doing well to be at 5700 before UMass.
its a hack article by a hack “writer”. Good luck in your chosen profession young man
There’s one paper where he’ll have an open position waiting.
What is particularly frustrating is that the article doesn’t put our situation in relative terms when looking at college basketball as a whole. As the article below from the end of last season (March, 2012) illustrates, college basketball attendance has been in a steady decline for some time. Although anecdotal, I have noticed it myself when viewing lots of empty seats at an ACC game that had more attendance in years past. The Nineronline article is simply lazy editorializing without putting things in proper perspective (or perhaps superior, slanted writing with an agenda, …depending on how you want to look at it I suppose). It may be that Charlotte has declined less than the rest of the college basketball world as a whole.
We were still top 100 in NCAA in avg attendance last year. I think we were around 85.
[quote=“49RFootballNow, post:5, topic:27455”]Most NCAA Division I schools would kill to have 6008 as average attendance figures. Its good we have a higher standard, but its also good to keep thing in perspective. Does this figure also include the FSU game at TWC Arena or just Halton games?[/quote]Exactly.
I’m not happy with where we are for attendance, but playing in a conference with unfamiliar names to casual fans with like 6 or 7 years without NCAA appearances will do that.
I see schools in CUSA that average less than 2000, which means they probably have less than 1200 in actual attendance. If we ever get to that point, please tear Halton down.
Perspective: http://billsportsmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ncaa_basketball-div-1-avg-attendance-leaders2010_top100_2a.gif
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Is this written by the student who started the anti Charlotte Blog? You know, the other lunatic who bent numbers and allegations to meet their own agenda. I am guessing this is the response to our Observer thread.
He’s apparently their “sports” writter:
There are some really ignorant comments on that article, as well. Haven’t won consistently since the early '90’s? REALLY. I mean, damn. Of course, the O doesn’t pick up the AP piece that was really nice that got picked up in San Antonio and Indianapolis, but they pick up that piece of crap.
Last year’s homecoming game had 8,108 against Rhode Island compared to this years game against Mass which was an “official” sell out at 9,105. Another direct comparison is Xavier. Saturday home games both years having attendance at 7,503 in 2012 vs. 7,280 this year. (I believe they were ranked last year though)
Let’s see how things play out. Three of our last four games are weekend games which draw bigger crowds.