The problem is we accept too many students, so the end result is not enough quality students, all in our attempt to be the biggest campus in the state.
I agree with this. I'm all in favor of slowing or even halting undergrad growth and concentrating any growth on post-graduate curriculums.
It won’t do us one bit of good to be considered the state’s largest community college.
[QUOTE=77grad;414726]I’m pretty sure the success of an Accounting school is measured by the percentage of grads who pass the CPA Exam their first try.[/QUOTE]
Well, yes, you can measure a university curriculum by that provided that there is a professional test corresponding with that professional field (accounting, engineering, nursing, etc.). That still does not have anything to do with the freshman graduation rate. If the school is doing the right thing, it will weed out those who will not pass the professional test and should not allow them to matriculate through the program. Now, I know how difficult some of these professional tests are and that there are many a smart person that has failed them the first go-round, but matriculating students through a program just to get graduates in that field is not a good thing either. I would rather have the low graduation rate of freshman than have a low percentage of graduates passing these professional tests.
[QUOTE=Charlotte2002;414727]A lot has to do with what the students do when they get into the real world and how they perform.
For example, NYUs MBA Finance is second to none, it has an insane grading curve…if you get though it your grades may suffer, but you are well prepared for the real world and succeed. Then the translates back to the rep of the school.[/QUOTE]
I agree with that philosophy. Your college grades mean nothing once you land your first job. So long as you got a good educational footing for your field in college, the rest of your career is built on hustle and work ethic. Your transcript is usually just checked to make sure you got the degree you say you earned on your resume.
I had a friend that got into Harvard Business School. I still remember her telling me what one of her professors said to her. The prof said that merely getting accepted into HBS demonstrated exceptional networking skills, etc and that as long as they didn't screw up to bad, they had already earned their degree.
Yeah, most upper echelon grad programs getting in is the hard part…after that if you do what you need to do, the worst you are getting are Bs. That is basically how my grad program was.
The one thing that gets lost inthe shuffle, is IMO HS is an awful barometer to how one will do in college.
I hated HS with a passion, the only reason I went was because I played bball. I was smart enough to get good grades without much effort, but I never found it challenging or enlightening.
In comparison I excelled in college and grad school.
Sometimes the bs rules and limited creativity of HS makes it tough to show the potential of a student.
The problem is we accept too many students, so the end result is not enough quality students, all in our attempt to be the biggest campus in the state.
It is a bad policy IMO.
I don’t care for the policy, but we get mad shafted on funding and this is our solution to getting enough money. I think it will work out okay in the end. I don’t mind being a huge school.
I don’t know how many people look at graduation rates as a gauge or even how they would use that as a gauge, but I’d say it is in actuality somewhat of a good thing. At least we have a hard enough curriculum that about half the kids we are forced to accept can’t even handle it.
I'll be honest with you, I was shocked that some of my classmates at UNC Charlotte actually got into college.
I agree. I was actually pretty pissed. When the people you go to college with seem like retards, you question yourself a little. Good thing (as someone pointed out) most of these kids had failed out and moved to CC by Sophomore year.
The other thing that makes me mad is dumb people don’t usually think on their own nor do they have enough self respect to stand on their own, so they fall back on the ACC school of their choice rather than rooting for their own fricken school first.
That's an easy one. A Charlotte application. A 4.2 isn't getting you into Chapel Hill in a lot of cases. Maybe in some rural school where the majority of kids don't go to college or do well in school. Chapel Hill operates on a quota from each region. If they didn't, the vast majority of their students would come from Charlotte and Raleigh. To diversify, they set a limit on the number of students they'll take from each school system and each school itself. There was an article in the Observer probably two years ago now that highlighted two students and this issue. They both had GPA's in the 4.9-5+ range. One got in, the other didn't despite only a small difference in GPA and virtually identical SAT scores.
Wow that's weird. I know kids from my HS that got in with a 3.8. But this was 2004 and in Concord but that's very close to Charlotte still.