OT: GW A.D. on season tix, Smith Center overhaul

Not sure what to make of this, but Charlotte is mentioned.

[b]GW athletic director: "Change the culture" of basketball[/b]

By Jake Sherman
The GW Hatchet
September 21, 2006

(U-WIRE) WASHINGTON – The restructuring of the ticketing and admission procedure for men’s basketball games is a step towards changing the “culture” of GW basketball and preparing fans for a major overhaul of Smith Center seating, Director of Athletics Jack Kvancz said.

Within the next three years, barring any unexpected budgetary constraints, the University is planning to replace at least the upper portion of the student section with individual stadium-style seats – a project that is estimated to cost about $1.5 million, Kvancz said. The mechanism that collapses the bleachers is severely damaged and further harm to it could expedite the need to replace the bleachers with individual seats.

Replacing bleachers in the 31-year-old building is a repair that goes beyond the needs of the basketball programs, which use the building about 30 days each year for games. The building is also used for graduation, concerts and other privately operated events.

Arena-style seats would allow for a system where students purchase season-ticket packages for men’s basketball. Kvancz said he does not see that as a negative thing, as it is a policy most Division I athletic programs have in place.

“I would like to see a purchased season ticket at some point,” Kvancz said. “It wouldn’t hurt (the athletic department), but I’ve gotten along without it for years.”

Nationally, ticketing and admission policies differ greatly. Kvancz said he has been calling other schools around the country to inquire about methods to adopt at GW.

He said he’s heard an array of suggestions from different parts of the country, ranging from age-based systems to financially beneficial policies.

When Kvancz was a student at Boston College, where he graduated in 1968, football admission depended on your year in college. Seniors were allowed to purchase tickets Tuesday, juniors on Wednesday, sophomores on Tuesday and if any were left over, freshmen got a shot on Friday, he said.

Duke University, whose Cameron Indoor Arena seats only 9,314, opens doors before each game and seats are occupied at a first-come, first-served basis. Kvancz said he is not inclined to move toward a system that causes camping on the street.

As a contrast, Atlantic 10 programs have season ticket systems. The University of Dayton Arena seats 14,500 and only 500 seats are available for student prices. If the seats aren’t sold, they are released to the public at full price.

Charlotte has an online ticket portal where students request tickets. Students are permitted one ticket for each game after paying an athletic fee. Admission into the stadium is based on “loyalty points.” A student earns these points by attending other athletic department events such as soccer and volleyball games.

Xavier, a similarly popular program in the A-10, does not require students to pay for tickets but designates a two-day period where students must present their student identification card for tickets. The best seats are given out first and the ID cards are validated when tickets are picked up and when students enter the arena.

Kvancz said season ticket plans for students is a logical step for GW. With a 5,000-seat arena, GW is limited with its options, Kvancz said.

“It’s like ‘catching up with the Jones,’” Kvancz said.

This year, the University has no plans to make students pay for tickets, said Robert Chernak, senior vice president for Student and Academic Support Services. But Chernak and Kvancz are in agreement that with upgrades to the Smith Center seating, tickets are necessary.

Kvancz said the athletic department has never had to turn a student away from the Smith Center and said he never plans to. A season ticket program would ensure a seat for each person and room for others who want to buy tickets on a game-to-game basis.

The reason for “changing the culture” of basketball ticketing, Kvancz said, is multifaceted. Instead of instituting the changes all at once, Kvancz said he wants students to understand and become accustomed to picking up tickets.

The culture, which has been free admission since the program’s inception, will drastically change. Kvancz said he’s comfortable with it.

“It is inevitable that (purchasing tickets) would happen,” Kvancz said. “It’s our mission to serve students and I’ll do everything I can to do that.”


Link: Yahoo Sports

Only 500 tickets available for students? Wow, someone should be thankful. :49ers:

[QUOTE]The University of Dayton Arena seats 14,500 and only 500 seats are available for student prices. If the seats aren’t sold, they are released to the public at full price.[/QUOTE]
FWIW… they averaged 12,423 per game last season (6,900 enrollment).

HP, that whole piece is poorly written. Does UD have only 500 tix for students or does it mean that Dayton athletics sells 500 seats in UD Arena at a “student” price? BTW, UD Arena is listed as having a capacity of 13,455 at daytonflyers.com.

Hmmm…

run, their quick facts in the media guide say 13,266 capacity so who knows? They must seat a lot of overweight Flyer divas and lose a few spots.

Yes, they have a problem, there is no room on that campus to a build arena, ever.

I am suprised they don’t try to play in the MCI center like Gtown has to.

[QUOTE=amnesiac;189363]Yes, they have a problem, there is no room on that campus to a build arena, ever.

I am suprised they don’t try to play in the MCI center like Gtown has to.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, based on what I saw of their campus. The athletic department offices were across the street in what looked like a row house, 2 doors down from a fraternity house.

The Verizon Center (formerly) MCI Center would be tough to book with the Wizards, Capitals and Hoyas already filling the winter schedule.

What I don’t understand is the part about students “purchasing” tickets for GW games. Anyway, attendance figures for the Colonials last season in the Smith Center:

Kennesaw State: 2217
Norfolk State: 2292
St. Francis (PA): 2416
Boston U: 4009
Fla Int: 2827
Maryland-ES: 2952
Saint Louis: 2862
St. Joe’s: 4356
Stony Brook: 3234
Rhode Island: 5000
Richmond: 5000
Dayton: 5000
UMass: 5000
La Salle: 5000
Charlotte: 5000

It was darn full for our nightmare of a game for sure. There may have been a few more than the announced 5,000 but I’m looking forward to going back this year.

What it sounded like to me was that they might not pay an athletics fee. The reason I say that is they distinctly pointed out we got our tickets for free after paying an athletic fee at Charlotte, but did not mention anything about them already paying one, etc. To be honest, paying for season tix for men’s basketball is a more “fair” way to raise money than with an athletics fee - so many students pay the ath. fee and don’t go to games, etc. and never get their money’s worth.

[QUOTE=Brick Tamland, Weather;189401]What it sounded like to me was that they might not pay an athletics fee. The reason I say that is they distinctly pointed out we got our tickets for free after paying an athletic fee at Charlotte, but did not mention anything about them already paying one, etc. To be honest, paying for season tix for men’s basketball is a more “fair” way to raise money than with an athletics fee - so many students pay the ath. fee and don’t go to games, etc. and never get their money’s worth.[/QUOTE]

To bad, that is their choice. It is all part of the college experience. They may go see Joe Blow speak at the Cone Center for free instead. I don’t understand why it isn’t all just part of tuition, why have a seperate student fee BS???

Some schools have tried to make certain student fees optional and it never works, because students opt out. It’s like taxes, you would opt out if you could but you’d never give up sewers, paved roads, etc. etc. The reason that the fees are separate from tuition is generally that the fee is based on credit hours, so that full-time students pay more than part-time students. Also tuition is supposed to be for educational purposes, not entertainment.

I like the idea of making students buy season tickets instead of using the athletics fee (or, in addition to a smaller athletic fee if that fee does pay for the student rec center or something like that). I am just curious how many students would actually purchase student tickets at some schools. it’s definitely not for everyone. I know that at Charlotte it would go over like a ton of bricks. There are games you can’t get the place filled when its free, let alone if they had to pay to get in there. Makes me wonder if they started it at GW how it would go over.