I thought Lutz was great at recruiting when he had a solid conference. Absolutely terrific.
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Iāve got concerns about Bobby recruiting, I think Marshall is untouchable from recruiting pov just toxic
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Before I mute this topic I just have to ask.
Why does this thread exist?
Bobby is not coming back to be our coach.
Never going to happen.
WHY do some people persist in bringing up this fantasy over and over?
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Just wait until basketball seasonā¦
He was great at recruiting when Rob Moxley was on staff. I think Moxley went to Maryland in 2006 and recruiting was never the same since.
āā¦During his time at Charlotte, Moxley helped land four Top 20 recruiting classes for the 49ers and was instrumental in signing 2001 ESPN.com National Freshman of the Year Rodney White and 2003 All-Conference USA choice Demon Brown. Moxley helped attract Marylandās 18th-ranked 2006 recruiting class (Rivals.com) and recruited 2010 ACC Player of the Year and 2010 NBA first round pick Greivis Vasquez.ā
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Yep----and its pretty well know that Vasquez would have been a Niner if Moxley would have still been at Charlotte. Trivia question----why did Vasquez say he selected uniform number 21?
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Stumbled upon this recent interview with Bobby. He was asked if he still wants to get into coaching as the final question in this interview. He said heād love to be a HC again in the right situation and has one option that heās actually considering right now.
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How do you turn alerts for this damn thread off?
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Correct Mr. Bo.
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Says heās ānot in peopleās thoughtsā now that heās retired. Obviously does not read this fuckinā thread.
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Want to know where Charlotte 49ers decline began? At the same time we fired Bobby Lutz, speaking of the Indiana win.
Charlotte wanted a different coaching style on the sideline. Charlotte leadership, probably directed by the UNC system, wanted someone that presented a different image in the sideline than Bobby. Winning was way down the list of requirements. Winning on the national stage should be left to UNC and NC State, not schools like Charlotte.
Eerily similar to our desire to start football, the general public got to see first hand the push back on Charlotte success and growth. A billionaire, former UNC system president told us to play our role and allow the Big Boys to play football. Another former president made similar comments along with many other system leaders. Football would help bring Charlotte relevance and they did not want that.
You will never get fired at Charlotte for being āok.ā Just play your role and do not take too much attention away from the flagship.
Many more examples of the above can be shared.
It happens elsewhere, as well. Just research how Alabama shut down UAB football as Alabama needed more oxygen and room to grow.
Another, look at the P5 vs G5 battle today.
Another, look at the history of Charlotte being one of the largest universities in the UNC system (4th) yet dead last in receiving funding for many years. Thankfully, that has recently changed somewhat but we will never get those years back.
Medical school, law school, etc. Te city of Charlotte was by far, and for many years, the largest city in the nation without a med school. For many years, the UNC system said Charlotte did not need one even though we always did. Once they worked behind our back and found a way for UNC Chapel Hill to steal our opportunity, the demand was certainly there and Charlotte got left behind. Shame on them!
I think our leaders are cognizant of this and constantly have to choose between the hard way and the easy way. No need to bring negative attention to yourself. It takes a special person to lead and challenge the system for Charlotteās best interest.
Look at Dubois, his famous comment was, āitās more about the UNC system than UNC-Charlotte.ā Is there any reason he got the job and stayed here so long? A good leader during his time would have brought a med school, law school, more students, and greater overall success.
For those of us that still care, we must demand more from our leadership. When the leadership blames the fans, students, alumni, boosters, and community for our lack of relevance, I wonder if they ask themselves why that is. Isnāt it their job to stimulate the support institutions, give us hope and a reson to invest? If the support bodies are not responding, shouldnāt that be a reflection on their leadersip.
Perhaps if they put Charlotte first, and stood up to the UNC system while being vocal about it they would be overwhelmed at the support they would receive. I, for one, am tired of the complacency of this university and am ready for a change in attitude and leadership style.
I seriously doubt that the āsystemā wanted to fire Bobby to put Charlotte back in its place.
Spanglerās comments about football were arrogance personified, but I think Friday was urging caution with starting football. He warned about itās costs and possible negative consequencesā¦personally, with Dubois sitting there, I think Spanglerās idiotic comments galvanized Dubois to say FU to him and helped get us football. Thatās just my take on it.
I have a lot to complain about Dubois and his leadership, agree the failure to push for either a med or law school is baffling, but you canāt say āmore studentsā given the expansion and growth of the university from 20k (or so) to 30K during his tenure and the infrastructure expansion as well. I do feel Dubois time as Provost here cemented a small-time mentality that āwe arenāt NC State or Chapel Hill, so donāt upset the political balanceā (again, my take). His comment about the āUNCā label is evident of that and rankled a lot of faculty and alumni, but one also has to admit that there is opposition to abandoning that among both alumni and faculty/administration, though I think Gaber is cut from a different cloth.
My own view, is the name change to U of Charlotte is necessary, the institution has matured significantly since the 1990s, as has the cityā¦the perfect time to do that, IMO, was during the CUSA 1.0 days when we associated with Louisville, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, etc. It was ideal, but for whatever reason, university leadership decided not to fight for it. It was a mistake. Again, Gaber is cut from a different cloth and I do think itās on the agenda, though I canāt say if thereās a specific timeline.
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The whole insinuation that the UNC system wants to hold Charlotte back athletically is about the silliest thing Iāve ever heard. If that was the case I bet theyāre pissed at ECU baseball and I bet they sent a hit squad to Boone a few years ago when App beat them in football.
Weāve done a fine job of sucking on our own, we havenāt needed any help.
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Donāt kid yourselves. Itās about a holistic approach.
Maybe not more students but rather a higher % of students that are more likely to attach to the university, engage in student life and athletics. There is correlation between med and law schools and alimni loyalty.
I know for a fact there has been an over reach by the UNC system to bully our leaders to āstay in our lane.ā
Charlotte is a threat to the flagships because of our city, etc. Boone and Greenville, NC are not a threat. Our potential in Charlotte is much greater!!
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To derail this thread even furtherā¦ R1 status next year puts many administration positions into automatic higher pay ranges, like double. It will be interesting to see if they change the rules once we make it there or allow us to join under the same rules.
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I think Iāve worked at the university long enough to understand the āholisticā approachā¦Iām aware of the way that the UNC system governs the university and other institutions not named Chapel Hill or State. I have no idea what you mean by āover reach,ā unless you mean Chapel Hill attempting to impose its will on the system at the expense of other institutions in the systemā¦if it was always successful, Charlotte wouldnāt have PhD programs as I know Chapel Hill opposed several program developments but failed. But Chapel Hill has succeeded in other ways to limit the growth and expansion of programs, particularly in graduate programs. Where our leadership has failed is to make the persuasive argument for expanded graduate programs, including a Med and Law school, which I regard as a serious mistake and short-sighted.
Also, Med and Law students are grad studentsā¦grad students are less likely, for a variety of reasons, to engage in the same sort of student life and athletics you describeā¦many do, particularly if they happen to be alums already.
I agree that Charlotteās potential has grown, considerably in the years Iāve been hereā¦itās potential continues, but this constant victim-hood at the evil hands of the system is tiresome. Look at where the university was in the 1990s and where it is todayā¦still a lot of work to do, but vastly different than it was.
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