Plavich

As much shit that is talked about Brendan, I havent heard a whole lot on here latley. He is a big time player that has played his ass off in big games. Sure he has had his moments, but this guy can get us a huge win in the up coming tourneys. He will be money down the stretch for us !! IU was a good win in that they are still a good team that lost to Carolina by 6 and had Uconn down until the final minutes. I love how the negativity can just fill these message boards! Lets get behind the Team like 90% of the niner fans do and screw Pino and the likes! Let them wacth us in the big dance on TV,no wait,they will be there cheering right?

i think the stat that impressed me the most, that i was not aware of, was that BP has scored 20 or more points in all three road games this year, and had three 20 point games last year, all on the road. It’s much easier to “show up” for a game at home with your fans behind you. But when you show up like BP does on the road in arenas such as Conseco Fieldhouse and the Carrier Dome, that is a true leader. I would bet that most of the players’ averages fall when comparing home vs. away. And Plav’s goes up by 5 ppg?? Jump on Plavich’s bandwagon that is gonna take us into the tourney…

has he ever done well at Halton?

Streak shooters usually don’t carry teams.
Eddie Basdens do.
Streak shooters compliment them.

I guess it all depends on whether you consider Plavich a “streak shooter.” I don’t believe that there is such a thing as a “pure shooter.” In todays college basketball games shooters like Plavich, Redick and McNamara are shooting contested jumpshots everytime. The fact that they have some “off nights” are largely in part due to the defense as much as themselves.

[i]Originally posted by NinerLoudNProud[/i]@Dec 28 2004, 01:42 AM [b] Streak shooters usually don't carry teams. Eddie Basdens do. Streak shooters compliment them. [/b]
This streak shooter label is the next to go. He's at 40-87, .460 from three. Sure he gets red-hot sometimes but he's been excellent this year. He wasn't hot vs IU, yet still buried the 2 daggers at the end.

People on this board are definitely the most opinionated of Niner fans…which explains the strong opinions that are often posted. I just hope prospective players, new fans, outsiders don’t get the wrong impression by the 3 or 4 more vocal detractors.

There is a semi-interesting Plavich discussion on the Indiana board.

[i]Originally posted by LeftyNiner[/i]@Dec 28 2004, 10:18 AM [b] This streak shooter label is the next to go. [/b]
So what do you wanna call him? A pure shooter? NOT!

Plavich’s FG% is .434 with 43-99. Thats behind everyone but Drayton (Sager, Miller and Gordon excluded). This puts him below the team percentage (.467). Hes only 3-12 in two point baskets. Thats dead last in 2-point FG%. He is also next to last in FT% at .353, ahead of only Iti.

When did we play at Conseco Fieldhouse?

my fault… assembly hall… i was thinkin pacers arena

[i]Originally posted by LutzFan[/i]@Dec 28 2004, 10:26 AM [b] There is a semi-interesting Plavich discussion on the [url=http://indiana.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=726&tid=45347831&sid=&style=2]Indiana board.[/url] [/b]
I like the part where he was compared statistically to Steve Alford.

Notice: Alford =IU hero, Plavich = Niner scapegoat for the know-it-all boo birds, clutch shooter to 90+% of Niner fans.

That about says it all about the respective fans.

I don’t think it’s fair to point to plavich’s overall FG% as a determinate of his value. Plavich is pure catch and shoot, he won’t be taking lay-ups or making dunks to boost his percentage. 46% from three is among the tops in the nation, better than JJ right now I believe. Every shot is contested from 20-30 feet and he’s making close to half? Whats the problem that he could make more than half? If you want to jump down his throat lets talk about FT shooting, now that should definately be more than half.

Plav is the man. Hooligan quit being a hater. We are 5-4 without him.

[i]Originally posted by JKniner[/i]@Dec 28 2004, 03:20 PM [b]Plav is the man. Hooligan quit being a hater. We are 5-4 without him.[/b]
How am I 'being a hater' when Im just telling you the numbers? And according to the numbers, without Plavich we would have still won at Indiana and Davidson, still average more than our opponent, still come up short vs. Alabama, but we would have would have also beaten Rutgers!

Try to follow along… Those of you ass kissing-love everyting or nothing at all-dorks need to take a hard look at this team and who you support. Anyone who sees a player (or coach) do well for a couple games a year and claims hes the greatest thing on the earth should get a clue.

Year to Date – FG : 3pt : 2pt : FT-- Pts
Team-- 256-548 (.467) : 76-187 (.406) : 180-361 (.499) : 151-239 (.632) --739
Plav-- 43-99 (.434) : 40-87 (.460) : 3-12 (.25) : 6-17 (.353)
w/o Plav-- 213-449 (.4744): 36-100 (.36) : 177-349 (.507) : 145-222 (.6532) --723

Now taking the %without Plavich and multipling by the original number of attempted shots [ex. 3ptrs: ((.36*187) * 3)=201] gives 201 points from three pointers, 366 points from two pointers, 156 points from FT for a total of 723. Our opponents have a total of 636.

In the same manner

Rutgers – FG : 3pt : 2pt : FT – Pts
Team-- 26-55 (.47) : 9-20 (.450) :17-35 (.486) :10-26 (.632) – 71
Plav-- 3-10 (.30) : 3-8 (.375) 0-2 (.25) : 1-3 (.353)
w/o Plav-- 23-45 (.511 ) : 6-12 (.50) 17-33 (.507) : 9-23 (.6532) – 75
30 points from 3’s, 35 from 2’s, and 10 from FTs for a total of 75.

Indiana – FG : 3pt : 2pt : FT – Pts
Team-- 26-66 (.394) : 11-30 (.366) : 15-36 (.418): 11-16 (.688) – 73
Plav-- 6-18 (.333) : 6-17 (.352) : 0-1 (.000) : 3-4 (.750)
w/o Plav-- 20-48 (.417 ): 5-13 (.385) : 15-35 (.429) : 8-12 (.667) – 74
34 points from 3’s, 30 from 2, and 10 from FTs for a total of 74

Davidson – FG : 3pt : 2pt : FT – Pts
Team-- 33-64 (.515) : 10-21 (.476) : 23-43 (.534): 11-17 (.647) – 87
Plav-- 8-12 (.667) : 7-9 (.778) : 1-3 (.333) : 0-0 (.000)
w/o Plav-- 25-52 (.480 ): 3-12 (.250) : 22-40 (.55) : 11-17 (.647)-- 73
15 points from 3’s, 47 from 2, and 11 from FTs for a total of 73

Alabama – FG : 3pt : 2pt : FT – Pts
Team-- 34-73 (.466) : 10-29 (.345): 24-44 (.546) : 23-38 (.605) – 101
Plav-- 5-14 (.357) : 5-14 (.357) : 0-0 (.000) : 1-4 (.25)
w/o Plav-- 29-59 (.4915 ) : 5-15 (.333) : 24-44 (.546) : 22-34 (.647) – 101.5
28.971 points from 3’s, 48 from 2, and 24.586 from FTs for a total of 101.5.

Yes the numbers are correct, it was a slow day at work.

See if you can follow this Mr. Hater… He is our number one option on offense…I know that, you know that, the other team knows that. If you take all the attention that he draws from the other teams D and put it on Curt and Eddie then we are toast. Thats what make the go to guys that much more impressive. You think that coming off a double screen and hitting a big shot when everyone knows you are going to get it is as tough as Curt or Ed taking a wide open shot? He or any 1st option can not be judged on stats alone. Does Michael Vick compete with the other QB’s in the league as far as stats go??? No. Is he the main reason they are winning???Yes.

And you are a hater…If you wanna attack and put everyone in a box cause you think we are company yes men then go ahead. But if you want to say I will support or back someone with the same school affiliation you are dead on my man. Go Niners and keep on hating my man.

[i]Originally posted by 49erFan1[/i]@Dec 28 2004, 08:55 AM [b] I guess it all depends on whether you consider Plavich a "streak shooter." I don't believe that there is such a thing as a "pure shooter." In todays college basketball games shooters like Plavich, Redick and McNamara are shooting contested jumpshots everytime. The fact that they have some "off nights" are largely in part due to the defense as much as themselves. [/b]
[b]like Plavich, Redick and McNamara are shooting contested jumpshots everytime. [/b]

Are they contested from the FT line because McNamara and Redick shoot about 90% and and Plavich is less than half of that. What shooting guard in D1 doesn’t take contested shots?