[quote=“Gassman, post:40, topic:28540”][quote=“Gassman, post:39, topic:28540”][quote=“Charlotte2002, post:30, topic:28540”]Ultimately the writing is on the wall that the charade that is college athletics will cease to exist within the next decade. What will happen? I am not quite sure, but it will be vastly different than what we have now.
It is like what Mark Cuban said about the NFL, “pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered”, which is what is happening to college athletics now. The funny thing is, if it becomes a true minor league, who is going to be that interested? No one watches minor league baseball, NBDL, or any other farm-type leagues, I imagine if you take away the collegiate affiliation no one will watch either.[/quote]
Won’t all the colleges simply move to the D3 model and have no scholarships or assistance to avoid all this? Wouldn’t we still go to watch the niners? I don’t think it would be a “minor league” exactly. Hell most of the level of play in the NCAA is minor league anyway (from a level of play perspective) except for elite basketball and football teams and millions still go to watch their teams.[/quote]
I guess what I was trying to say is a lot of people support their schools athletics and enjoy attending games and have no expectation that the players are top level. They just enjoy the experience and enjoy watching them compete.[/quote]
[quote=“Gassman, post:40, topic:28540”][quote=“Gassman, post:39, topic:28540”][quote=“Charlotte2002, post:30, topic:28540”]Ultimately the writing is on the wall that the charade that is college athletics will cease to exist within the next decade. What will happen? I am not quite sure, but it will be vastly different than what we have now.
It is like what Mark Cuban said about the NFL, “pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered”, which is what is happening to college athletics now. The funny thing is, if it becomes a true minor league, who is going to be that interested? No one watches minor league baseball, NBDL, or any other farm-type leagues, I imagine if you take away the collegiate affiliation no one will watch either.[/quote]
Won’t all the colleges simply move to the D3 model and have no scholarships or assistance to avoid all this? Wouldn’t we still go to watch the niners? I don’t think it would be a “minor league” exactly. Hell most of the level of play in the NCAA is minor league anyway (from a level of play perspective) except for elite basketball and football teams and millions still go to watch their teams.[/quote]
I guess what I was trying to say is a lot of people support their schools athletics and enjoy attending games and have no expectation that the players are top level. They just enjoy the experience and enjoy watching them compete.[/quote]
You just described how I feel about our football program
What I haven’t heard much about is how all these proposed changes are going to affect the non revenue sports? Is whole system going to come crashing down and screw up all the assistance (I know they don’t all get full rides like FB and BB but it’s something) that these athletes are getting?
I mean if your lucky enough to get an athletic scholarship of any kind and your ACTUALLY THERE TO PURSUE A DEGREE (like the vast majority of NCAA athletes) then it’s kind of going to suck if this whole system falls apart.
[quote=“Gassman, post:43, topic:28540”]What I haven’t heard much about is how all these proposed changes are going to affect the non revenue sports? Is whole system going to come crashing down and screw up all the assistance (I know they don’t all get full rides like FB and BB but it’s something) that these athletes are getting?
I mean if your lucky enough to get an athletic scholarship of any kind and your ACTUALLY THERE TO PURSUE A DEGREE (like the vast majority of NCAA athletes) then it’s kind of going to suck if this whole system falls apart.[/quote]
I suspect many non-P5 schools will have to cut sports in order to pay the athletes that remain. The irony here is that the true student-athletes (tennis, cross country, softball, etc) will get discontinued in favor of sports populated largely by athletes pretending to be students.
The schools wanting a power conference are already paying their players under the table and it takes a lot of time and effort to hide these illegal payments. Players like Cam Newton were paid a lot of money in college and Newton admitted that his family would get enormous amounts of money if went to Auburn instead going to the school he liked best and the coach at that school told the NCAA what he said and they did nothing. OK why did they do nothing? Because they know that all of these schools are cheating who want a so called power conference and want to exclude the other teams from the playoffs starting next season. Well what really needs to happen is that teams can opt out of the NCAA and join the D league in basketball, a semi-pro football league and semi-pro baseball league. They don’t care much about supporting the other sports anyway. If they want to go join a semi-pro league then by all means let them opt out of the NCAA to go do it, but don’t let them do it while remaining in the NCAA.
Heard on the news this morning that the State Employees Association of NC has opened its membership to all collegiate athletes in the state.
I don’t think this means the state is yet acknowledging them as employees but that could be the next step. Also, state employees cannot collectively bargain in NC so I’m not sure what the point of the SEANC actually is.
Lew, study hall should not be on the clock. That’s for your education. And as far as practice goes, most schools cheat on the 20 hour limit. Now there will be lawsuits that the players are forced to practice off the clock to not go over 20. That will be a funny lawsuit when the BCS conferences get BUSTED!
If the P5 break away and cut the NCAA out (highly unlikely but who knows these days) legally what would the NCAA be able to do?
While the NCAA is portrayed as a greed machine I feel like they have done a lot for sports both at the youth and the pro level.
One might say without the past 100 years of NCAA cultivation pro sports would not be where they are today… with all the college athletes wanting “lost wages” couldn’t the NCAA ask for money from the NBA, MLB, and NFL for all the revenue that former NCAA players brought them?
Also with all the “Union” talk, if athletes can form unions what about coaches?
Just food for thought… the next few years are going to be extremely interesting
[quote=“Nugget, post:54, topic:28540”][quote=“NinerAdvocate, post:53, topic:28540”]http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_25951643/ncaa-more-voices-call-congress-rein-college-athletics[/quote]Lopiano pretty much slaps the Big5 in the face and says “take that b****!” Putting the Rick James on them. I would like to see this gain momentum.[/quote]She rightfully mentions the tax issue, but I think ignores the issue of losing, meaning that half of the teams in a breakaway league would have losing records and start bleeding fan support and attention. They have quite the cushy set up right now, I think the rest of the college teams should call their bluff (since the NCAA is clearly too spineless to do so, too afraid they’ll lose their free gravy train).
My only worry with this move is that congress in its current form will probably screw it up, especially since a lot of them are graduates of P5 institutions and also bought and paid for by people making some money off of this set up.
As for the threat of leaving the NCAA, it's a ruse, Lopiano said.
"What's bad is that the other thousand NCAA institutions don't recognize that it's a nonexistent threat," she said. "Big-time schools can't leave; Congress would take away tax preferences and remove federal assistance. If they leave, now they're not a nonprofit. [b]They're hiding behind the skirts of the rest of the NCAA institutions[/b]."
You think NCAA no tax is bad 9erken, what about NFL? How can they say they’re "non-profit?"
I wonder what I have to do to have my paycheck deemed a non-profit?
[quote=“stonecoldken, post:58, topic:28540”]You think NCAA no tax is bad 9erken, what about NFL? How can they say they’re "non-profit?"
I wonder what I have to do to have my paycheck deemed a non-profit?[/quote]
“Only the little people pay taxes” Can’t remember who said it