Sager

When the other teams chooses to send us to the line, its time for Sager. That is a no brainer. Keeping him on the bench while the niners heave bricks at the rim is just brainless. Sager is the best shooter on the team. He doesn’t wilt under pressure.
Sager was put in once last year with the game on the line and promply put the game on ice. We rarely saw him again in a game situation.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that when the opposition turns the game into a free throw contest, you put the ball into the hands of someone you can count on.
If coach lose has a grudge against a player, he should deal with it off the court.
If he doesn’t want a shooter at the line when the game is on the line, he is a dumbass.

Thank you basketball expert of Charlotte. I wasn’t aware that you had an inside track to goings and comings of Charlotte basketball, UNC fan. :stuck_out_tongue:

If you’re referring to Monday’s game, we needed baskets late in the game. By that point we shouldn’t be relying on free throws when we are already behind. Free throws have to be made early in the half.

Sager is probably our best FT shooter, but I don’t want him brining the ball down the court against a press in late game situations.

[i]Originally posted by switchfoot[/i]@Nov 24 2004, 02:32 PM [b] Thank you basketball expert of Charlotte. I wasn't aware that you had an inside track to goings and comings of Charlotte basketball, UNC fan. [/b]
There are a multitude of things you are not aware of, but if needing someone who can shoot free throws when the game is a free throw contest is one of them, you should have the good sense to keep your ignorance to yourself.

There is a HUGE tradeoff when you have Sager in the game.

Sager makes Plav look like a defensive stopper.

[i]Originally posted by morningwood[/i]@Nov 24 2004, 02:51 PM [b]

Sager makes Plav look like a defensive stopper. [/b]


It would have been a damn good thing for something to make Plav look like a defensive stopper!

All this assumes that they would foul sager, which means he needs to be in a position to be fouled. We’d have to get the ball to him and make sure he could hold on to it long enough to get fouled. Considering the coach probably knew the rap on our team going in, he would do everything he could to deny the entry pass to Sager and would foul anyone else on our team immediately.

[i]Originally posted by gamer[/i]@Nov 24 2004, 01:29 PM [b] When the other teams chooses to send us to the line, its time for Sager. That is a no brainer. Keeping him on the bench while the niners heave bricks at the rim is just brainless. Sager is the best shooter on the team. He doesn't wilt under pressure. Sager was put in once last year with the game on the line and promply put the game on ice. We rarely saw him again in a game situation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that when the opposition turns the game into a free throw contest, you put the ball into the hands of someone you can count on. If coach lose has a grudge against a player, he should deal with it off the court. If he doesn't want a shooter at the line when the game is on the line, he is a dumbass. [/b]
You are thinking of the closing minute or so of games where we have the lead and the other team is forced to foul. Then Lutz has used Sager in an offense for defense scenario when the opposition is forced to foul and we are looking to inbound. We run inbound plays designed to get the ball in his hands to get to the line. Putting him into mondays game would have been no help at all.
[i]Originally posted by Powerbait[/i]@Nov 24 2004, 02:57 PM [b] All this assumes that they would foul sager, which means he needs to be in a position to be fouled. We'd have to get the ball to him and make sure he could hold on to it long enough to get fouled. Considering the coach probably knew the rap on our team going in, he would do everything he could to deny the entry pass to Sager and would foul anyone else on our team immediately. [/b]
Exactly. I understand bring Sager in if we are up late in the game. But trailing?
[i]Originally posted by switchfoot[/i]@Nov 25 2004, 01:45 AM [b] Exactly. I understand bring Sager in if we are up late in the game. But trailing? [/b]
Thats a good point. It brings us back to the fact that the niners were up big, and spent most of the game losing the lead. You can say that the game was lost before you would or wouldn't have brought him in, but the fact is the wrong thing was done. There aren't many coaches that would refuse to play a shooter like Sager, and it's a shame we have one of the few.

I can see Waters now.
“Hey they just brought in that Sager kid up 11. Let’s foul him every time he touches the ball. Who cares if he’s 0 threat whatsoever to take a shot?”

Yeah gamer, you know your hoops. You couldn’t coach air out of an open bag. Sager’s ability to his foul shots is ONLY a benefit when a team is in a MUST FOUL situation.

I think your UNC cap is on too tight.

Sager is a big threat when he is in the game. Give him the opportunity and he wins the game for us. Don’t give him an opportunity and badmouth him and we lost. Why do you want to carry on someone elses vandetta toward him? Of course with your attitude you could be insisting that JJ Reddick shouldn’t play in the ACC. Cosch K utilizes the weapons he has. Thats the difference between Charlotte and Duke.

I love having Sager on our team but let’s not get carried away. He rarely if ever get’s open. He’s not a JJ Reddick and that’s ok. But I think it’s not fair to him to try and compare him to JJ Reddick. For the record no one here has talked “bad” about Sager. I respect him just like I respect Plavich and the other players on our team. But I don’t think Plavich is a strong defensive player. That doesn’t mean that I am talking “bad” about him. Sager should be brought in, late in the game. When we are up and the other team is forced to foul us. If we can set him some screens and get possibly 5-6 points a game out of him I think that would be good.

I like Chris Sager a lot. Problem is he can’t create his own shot. He’s slow. It’s a simply fate of genetics. He is our single best shooter, but he needs to be set up to shoot. The way Rutgers was defending the perimeter, he would not have gotten any opportunities to shoot. The game was to be won in the post and at the foul line.

[i]Originally posted by gamer[/i]@Nov 24 2004, 01:29 PM [b] It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that when the opposition turns the game into a free throw contest, you put the ball into the hands of someone you can count on. [/b]
It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that New Jersey was only fouling our players as they were going to the basket, save for the one foul on Plav's three. Sager can neither drvie to the basket, or create his own jump shot, so they would've just played passive defense on him until he passed the ball to someone else, and then fouled that person.
[i]Originally posted by gamer[/i]@Nov 26 2004, 10:38 AM [b] Sager is a big threat when he is in the game. Give him the opportunity and he wins the game for us. Don't give him an opportunity and badmouth him and we lost. Why do you want to carry on someone elses vandetta toward him? Of course with your attitude you could be insisting that JJ Reddick shouldn't play in the ACC. Cosch K utilizes the weapons he has. Thats the difference between Charlotte and Duke. [/b]
Thats the difference between Charlotte and Duke? What kind of an idiot are you? Sager didn't play because he can't play. If it were a game of horse, he would start but basketball is more than just shooting set shots.

He can’t run, jump, defend, ball handle, rebound and has poor court vission. He is slow and weak and gives us absolutely nothing except the ability to hit free throw late in a game in which we have the lead.

Nothing personal, I understand Chris is a great guy, however he is no division 1 basketball player.

[i]Originally posted by 49erpi[/i]@Nov 26 2004, 08:12 PM [b] He can't run, jump, defend, ball handle, rebound and has poor court vission. He is slow and weak and gives us absolutely nothing except the ability to hit free throw late in a game in which we have the lead.

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Its that ability to hit a free throw that would have helped the rest of the team the other night. Otherwise, he would have fit in well against Rutgers.

Gamer. Thank you. Keep wearing the Chapel Hill hat and talking basketball.

[i]Originally posted by TheShowDawg[/i]@Nov 27 2004, 12:54 AM [b] Gamer. Thank you. Keep wearing the Chapel Hill hat and talking basketball. [/b]
So Gamer, how does it feel to have lost any credibility you had on this board?

I’m not too concerned about the credibility I have among people who want to gang up on someone who wears a hat of another school. Nor am I personally concerned about those who talk trash about a fine team player, but I don’t like to see it happen to one of the young men on our team.