Shawn Lester a JR?

Why is Lester listed as a JR even though he has only played one season? Did he lose a year because he was enrolled at the school, but ineligible to play? That doesn’t seem right to me. I assumed he would have been listed as a SO.

[quote=“Niner_Alum_2000, post:1, topic:29067”]Why is Lester listed as a JR even though he has only played one season? Did he lose a year because he was enrolled at the school, but ineligible to play? That doesn’t seem right to me. I assumed he would have been listed as a SO.[/quote]He was listed as a Sophomore last year, he will gain his fifth year of eligibility if he stays on course to graduate in 5 years.

So eventually would he be a guy who is referenced as a “5th year Senior”?

I always wondered how that worked too. Seeing Soph last year always threw me off.

[quote=“sportsman1417, post:3, topic:29067”]So eventually would he be a guy who is referenced as a “5th year Senior”?

I always wondered how that worked too. Seeing Soph last year always threw me off.[/quote]

No. He’ll be listed as “VL” for “victory lap”

[quote=“sportsman1417, post:3, topic:29067”]So eventually would he be a guy who is referenced as a “5th year Senior”?

I always wondered how that worked too. Seeing Soph last year always threw me off.[/quote]
I had three Junior semesters. My biggest regret is that I didn’t turn it into four.

They don’t have to remain on course to graduate in 5 years, they have to actually get their degree in 4 years. And if they graduate on time, they get an extra year or elgibility as grad students. Also a completely possible scenario could end up with him playing in his 5th year somewhere else and being immediately eligible. I’m pretty sure if they want to get a masters in something that we don’t offer they can go to another school that has that program without sitting out or losing eligibility.

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.

Thanks for the clarification. I saw his JR status and was curious.

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

I think Major & Co. will handle Lester’s situation better than they handled Phil’s. Someone needs to stay after him to make sure he stays eligible.

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

He was able to START a fourth year…

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

I think Major & Co. will handle Lester’s situation better than they handled Phil’s. Someone needs to stay after him to make sure he stays eligible.[/quote]

I think it more depends on the player than the staff.

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

I think Major & Co. will handle Lester’s situation better than they handled Phil’s. Someone needs to stay after him to make sure he stays eligible.[/quote]

I think it more depends on the player than the staff.[/quote]
Agree with this. It’s really, really not that hard

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

I think Major & Co. will handle Lester’s situation better than they handled Phil’s. Someone needs to stay after him to make sure he stays eligible.[/quote]

I think it more depends on the player than the staff.[/quote]
Agree with this. It’s really, really not that hard[/quote]

I agree it should depend on the player. It is not always that simple.

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

I think Major & Co. will handle Lester’s situation better than they handled Phil’s. Someone needs to stay after him to make sure he stays eligible.[/quote]

I think it more depends on the player than the staff.[/quote][quote=“hootie, post:13, topic:29067”][quote=“Niner_Alum_2000, post:12, topic:29067”][quote=“PARMAN, post:10, topic:29067”][quote=“Tintin, post:8, topic:29067”][quote=“919R, post:7, topic:29067”][quote=“4t9er, post:6, topic:29067”]They don’t have to remain on course to graduate in 5 years, they have to actually get their degree in 4 years. And if they graduate on time, they get an extra year or elgibility as grad students. Also a completely possible scenario could end up with him playing in his 5th year somewhere else and being immediately eligible. I’m pretty sure if they want to get a masters in something that we don’t offer they can go to another school that has that program without sitting out or losing eligibility.[/quote]
No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

I think Major & Co. will handle Lester’s situation better than they handled Phil’s. Someone needs to stay after him to make sure he stays eligible.[/quote]

I think it more depends on the player than the staff.[/quote]
Agree with this. It’s really, really not that hard[/quote]I disagree. Major should grab his hand and make him attend classes. :stuck_out_tongue:

No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

I think Major & Co. will handle Lester’s situation better than they handled Phil’s. Someone needs to stay after him to make sure he stays eligible.[/quote]

I think it more depends on the player than the staff.[/quote][quote=“hootie, post:13, topic:29067”][quote=“Niner_Alum_2000, post:12, topic:29067”][quote=“PARMAN, post:10, topic:29067”][quote=“Tintin, post:8, topic:29067”][quote=“919R, post:7, topic:29067”][quote=“4t9er, post:6, topic:29067”]They don’t have to remain on course to graduate in 5 years, they have to actually get their degree in 4 years. And if they graduate on time, they get an extra year or elgibility as grad students. Also a completely possible scenario could end up with him playing in his 5th year somewhere else and being immediately eligible. I’m pretty sure if they want to get a masters in something that we don’t offer they can go to another school that has that program without sitting out or losing eligibility.[/quote]
No, I think you might be confusing 2 different situations here. You are confusing graduate students (ie; like our shooter from Tulane last year) who missed a year of playing due to injury, previous transfer, etc… with someone like Lester who actually had to sit out a season because of academics but then making enough “progress” toward his degree after 4 years of “school” (and 3 years of “playing”) that he is eligible to regain the previously “lost” 4th year of eligibility.[/quote]

Phil Jones had this scenario going. Let’s hope Lester handles it better.[/quote]

I think Major & Co. will handle Lester’s situation better than they handled Phil’s. Someone needs to stay after him to make sure he stays eligible.[/quote]

I think it more depends on the player than the staff.[/quote]
Agree with this. It’s really, really not that hard[/quote]I disagree. Major should grab his hand and make him attend classes. :p[/quote]

That is almost what Bobby’s staff had to do to keep Phil eligible. Either Major did not realize the problem was that bad or Phil finally decided he did not care if he played for the new staff or not. We will never know if Phil would have remained eligible if the coaching change had not occurred.

Do we really want a player on our team that can’t complete the classes with the current assistance already in place? There is already one team in NC that goes too far helping kids maintain their grades and we see how we treat them. I think if a guy or girl can’t maintain a 2.5 GPA or whatever it is they need to stay eligible with the assistance they already receive, I don’t want them out there representing what my University is about.

Depends. If he takes he helps us win a national Championship I could care less about his gpa. Hell, right now I could care less about their gpa as long at they can play Bball. I think it’s great when they do good and always clap when they announce the honor roll for athletes. I would take a grade scandal along with a national championship as long as they don’t happen in same year.

Depends. If he takes he helps us win a national Championship I could care less about his gpa. Hell, right now I could care less about their gpa as long at they can play Bball. I think it’s great when they do good and always clap when they announce the honor roll for athletes. I would take a grade scandal along with a national championship as long as they don’t happen in same year.[/quote] Serious?

Are you prepared to lose? A lot?

The fact is for us to be successful we have to take a chance on kids. Some of them have P5 talent, but grades scare them off. We can either roll the dice and do everything we can (within the rules) to keep them eligible or we only take choir boys. It is sad - but it really is part of teh coaching staffs job to check on the players do everything they can to get them to do what they need to. If you treat them like adults, they will end up off the team.