agreed, we need Wilderness to have some offense because last years freshmen really struggled on offense and right now we are looking at Goldwire to be the only one on the team that can score.
[QUOTE=amnesiac;243409]agreed, we need Wilderness to have some offense because last years freshmen really struggled on offense and right now we are looking at Goldwire to be the only one on the team that can score.[/QUOTE]
For anyone who missed it, the Lutz interview on ninerreport gives an idea of player roles. Mack is expected to score as well. Thatās going to be our problem, though. Letās hope for once we can make up for it on the defensive end and get some easy baskets in transition.
better yet, I hear we have no cancers. If you have good leaders (which Lee clearly is) on/off the court, these guys need to jump in line and follow, which I believe will happen. I don't mind rooting for a young .500 club that is applying itself.
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Looking at the list of players, I really donāt see anyone to ābooā. There WILL be undeserving scapegoats next year for the impatient crowd (unfortunately). Like you said, if a player is struggling yet applying himself - then I donāt mind rooting for him either. But Iām not blind to patterns in college hoops: experienced clubs closing out games and young teams struggling, players scoring 7ppg as a freshman may score 12 ppg as a senior, etc. Itās an āinvestmentā yearā¦the rewards are still down the road.
Phaler and Ian might have much more value this year than last. With Alexander, Carlos, and others looking to score every time the ball was in their hands, Phaler and Ian just added to the problem. Now that we need snipers, Phaler, Ian (and of course Goldwire) might prove to be just what the doctor orderedā¦āspecially if the rest of the team is on the same page and contributes towards the other aspects of the game. Itās the olā āthe whole is greater than the sum-of-the-partsā mantra. Last year, I think our āpartsā had more value - but obviously it was āthe wholeā that really mattered.
It is not clear how we are going to score, we typically have at least 2 scorers, now we only have 1, so it will be a challenge.
[QUOTE=Submarley734;243201]I agree as well, Jamison? I donāt want any of our incoming players who are supposed to be scorers compared to Jamison. Everybody liked Jamison for two reasons, he worked his ass off and played tough D. When I heard Wilderness and how heās been described, I thought, āwe have something special here.ā Iām sick of these players coming in and being busts. If Wilderness ends up being a Jamison, I would say heās a bust.
On a side note: Please, even if you see a similarity, do not use that waste of space Australian center we hadās name in any comparison w/ Big Phil. Everyone knows who Iām talking about, I just do not want to say his name.[/QUOTE]
If we had 5 guys on the court that played with Jamisonās passion and defensive intensity we would have won 20+ games last year easily. Donāt see how he is considered a bust?? Took him a year to get comfortable at the D1 level. If it takes Wilderness one year so be itā¦at least we have him for 4.
[QUOTE=amnesiac;243490]It is not clear how we are going to score, we typically have at least 2 scorers, now we only have 1, so it will be a challenge.[/QUOTE]
glad Im not the only one. I think Lefty believes this will be our primary challenge every night too.
I just hope we dont ever have a 9 pt half again. 
[QUOTE=amnesiac;243409]agreed, we need Wilderness to have some offense because last years freshmen really struggled on offense and right now we are looking at Goldwire to be the only one on the team that can score.[/QUOTE]
all i care about is defense and reboundingā¦scoring will take care of itself and as Lefty mentioned Mack is a scoring machine. defense will lead to offense, particularly in transitionā¦
[QUOTE=EJNiner;243511]If we had 5 guys on the court that played with Jamisonās passion and defensive intensity we would have won 20+ games last year easily. Donāt see how he is considered a bust?? Took him a year to get comfortable at the D1 level. If it takes Wilderness one year so be itā¦at least we have him for 4.[/QUOTE]
couldnt agree with this more. he played harder than possibly any niner i have ever seen. at 6ā5" he rebounded like a guy who was 6ā10".
If we had 5 guys on the court that played with Jamison's passion and defensive intensity we would have won 20+ games last year easily. Don't see how he is considered a bust?? Took him a year to get comfortable at the D1 level. If it takes Wilderness one year so be it...at least we have him for 4.
also i couldnāt agree more. but i do think wilderness is going to come in with the same passion already. just seems like one of those kids.
If we had 5 guys on the court that played with Jamison's passion and defensive intensity we would have won 20+ games last year easily. Don't see how he is considered a bust?? Took him a year to get comfortable at the D1 level. If it takes Wilderness one year so be it...at least we have him for 4.
I donāt disagree with what you are saying, but those 5 guys would have to have more skill than Jamison. That is what I am talking about. Wilderness is supposed to be a very skilled scorer, and Jamison was everything except that. I liked Jamison, had no problem with him, but you have to admit, in 4 years, if the only thing good we can say about Wilderness is that he worded his ass off and played good defense, heās a bust in my opinion.
Actually I think you will see that Wilderness reminds you more of Eddie in his first couple of years than Jamison, but with more of a knack for scoring around the basket. I saw both Wilderness and Tatum play a couple of times, I thought Wilderness was much better.
Not comparing him to Eddie as a senior, because like Galen Young, Eddie was a much different player as a Sr than he was as a soph.
[QUOTE=amnesiac;243666]Actually I think you will see that Wilderness reminds you more of Eddie in his first couple of years than Jamison, but with more of a knack for scoring around the basket. I saw both Wilderness and Tatum play a couple of times, I thought Wilderness was much better.
Not comparing him to Eddie as a senior, because like Galen Young, Eddie was a much different player as a Sr than he was as a soph.[/QUOTE]
Lutz has also compared Wilderness to Eddie in terms of how he plays. All around player, good athlete, plays defense, rebounds, finishes around the basket. Wilderness is not known as a scorer or shooter. I think he and Dewhurst will be similar but Wilderness probably will work more inside than Dewhurst. He may even play the 4 at times.
Heāll be more ready to play right away after prepping last year. Good competition at the 3 for sure.
Now that we [I]need [/I]snipers, Phaler, Ian (and of course Goldwire) might prove to be just what the doctor ordered....
this is good, but at the same time kinda scares me - call me old fashioned but i like the inside game, as in not just 3ās - and though i know that lutz likes the 3, iāve been holding onto the hope that through the changes that he sounds like he is making to the game (heavily recruiting athleticism etc.) that we will be doing a lot more driving of the ball this season. as well as our lovely addition of a true center in the paint. i guess weāll seeā¦
One thing that may come into play somewhat is the movement of the 3 pt line (which i believe goes into effect next season) and phalers height advantage. i dont truely knwo if it would help or not, but logically it would. who knowsā¦ just a thought
this is good, but at the same time kinda scares me - call me old fashioned but i like the inside game, as in not just 3's - and though i know that lutz likes the 3, i've been holding onto the hope that through the changes that he sounds like he is making to the game (heavily recruiting athleticism etc.) that we will be doing a lot more driving of the ball this season. as well as our lovely addition of a true center in the paint. i guess we'll see...One thing that may come into play somewhat is the movement of the 3 pt line (which i believe goes into effect next season) and phalers height advantage. i dont truely knwo if it would help or not, but logically it would. who knowsā¦ just a thought
then why do support charlotte the last 10 years have been nothing but 3ās haha.
My observation is that I ran into Big Phil, Anjuan, and Dijuan at the Shell Gas Station lol. Itās good to see them hanging out. Means they are becoming friends.
I asked Big Phil if he was going to win and he said yes haha. I shook Dijaunās hand. Apparently the guy whos car I was in played against him in HS. He is going to be walking on at State.
In any event, good to see them together. Iām ready to see what they can do.
JJ wouldnāt have been considered freakishly athletic even back thenā¦there was a freak of an athlete on the Niner team back then and his name was Jarvis Lang!!!
JJ wouldn't have been considered freakishly athletic even back then.....there was a freak of an athlete on the Niner team back then and his name was Jarvis Lang!!!
Quoted for spot on right on the money TRUTH.
I dont remember Jarvis vividly, but I remember him. No one comes close to the athleticism of Jarvis. That guy was truly on a whole other level.