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“potential cure all for all existing lithium ion battery limitations”

  • Massive increase in energy density
  • Dramatic increase in safety (removes fire risk)
  • Charge rate substantially increased - 10 minute charge time from 0-100%

Electrek: Toyota to unveil electric car with 10-min fast-charging solid-state battery next year.

Green Car Reports: Toyota EV with solid-state batteries: 10-minute full charge, prototype reportedly due in 2021.

CarBuzz: Toyota’s Game-Changing Solid-State Battery Coming In 2021.

Torque News: Toyota Is Launching Its First EV Called BZ SUV.

I’m a Tesla fanboy and long time $TSLA permabull, but moreso than that I’m a fan of the advancement of EV’s, so I’m loving this news. Having said that, I think people have been misunderstanding the term “unveil”. This just means they will be potentially unveiling a prototype a next year, not a production model that you can go out and buy off the showroom floor. Full mass scale production is another animal, especially with batteries, and especially especially with this solid state form. Kudos to them for pushing the technology forward. It will be exciting to follow this.

I have been in the electric vehicle industry since 2000 and the biggest holdup has been the battery technology. It is so interesting how rapidly this is advancing now. All it took is the possibility of selling billions of small units (millions of cars) to make this leap. I sold the first Lithium powered vehicles for my company rather than lead acid or NiCad. That was just a few years ago.

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Dowless, do you believe in this solid state revolution ?

If it wasn’t Toyota, I’d be skeptical.

But Toyota doesn’t usually F around…

Well, Toyota is only one investor that has drank the Kool-Aid that Quantumscape is making. So we know that Quantumscape are good sales people, but we don’t know if they can deliver. The one thing missing from their website is the “Where to buy” link. There are many things that have to take place before they are mass producing them. We’ll have to wait and see. Some concerns that jump out to me are can they sustain an impact, and even though they say that they can be charged fast is that a reasonable thing? That has to be a huge cable to plug into and you would need a massive power source to deliver the amps needed to recharge the thing. Would be a major heat generator when fast charging. Jury is still out on this technology.

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Good info. Thanks.

I am rooting for them. This feels like the future.

More info about them.

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  • British electric vehicle startup Arrival Automotive is investing $3 million to open a North American headquarters in Charlotte that will employ 150.

The average fan doesn’t know how good ECU is.

Autoblog: Toyota to unveil solid-state battery EV prototype next year.

It’s estimated that a solid-state car could have a range of 1000 kilometers (621 miles) and take 10 minutes to charge. Solid-state batteries deteriorate less over time, and Toyota aims to retain 90% of the battery’s performance over a 30-year lifespan. Toyota leads the solid-state battery patent count, owning over 1,000 related to the technology.

Going to need a power generation station next to each charger.

clt says SSB if friggin tough for a zep

Love my Taco Pro. Manual tranny

Torque News: Toyota’s Solid-State Battery Will Crush Tesla Li-Ion Updates.

The Wall Street Journal: Japan to Phase Out Gasoline-Powered Cars, Bucking Toyota Chief.

Ugh… I know I know but I really F’n hate this. Gonna have a bunch of basically the same car and Chassis and power plants with different sheet metal and software. Fast green soulless vehicles.

Also gonna help save the planet, so you know trade offs.

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“Save the planet”… good one.

I am both sides in this. I get where NWA is coming from, but I’m equally excited about the tech ( and the reduction in maintenance, etc).

NWA, I think we are going to probably have to settle with individuality coming from: 1) custom / bespoke bodies; 2) classic ICE cars becoming a purely hobby industry, and 3) something I like but people find sacrilegious - resto modding classic cars with modern BEV power trains (and brakes, etc).

I can live with those compromises. Espcially when you consider half the ICE vehicles on the road anymore are just 5 or 7 passenger SUV clones anyway.