China will be interesting to watch. Their cities are getting choked with pollution and with a communist govt they can just stop car sales or mandate EVs.
clt says Ubers are great when you want to have a few zimas on the course and 19th hole
Californiaâs asinine law will hopefully NOT apply to Virginia if our governor has any say in the matter. Heâs trying to get us out of that horrible state law. For some reason, the former governor thought subjecting Virginians to California law was a good thing. Good thing heâs gone.
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Cali gonna Cali
It it doesnât really matter what Virginia does. If the Cali rule stays in effect, especially with several euro countries and potentially canada calling for the same, car makers are going to make that shift anyway.
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Caliporniaâs laws and taxes are so great, they are all coming here:(
Sincerely, Go Back
clt likes EVâs (buy RIVN), but let the market decide.
Iâm really curious what the banning of new ice cars will do to the market. It could drive down EV costs and push consumers to just buy the EVs and the ice markets drops like a rock or does it actually increase the costs of ICE cars on the used market and leaves dealers stuck with EVs they canât sell?
If they try to ban my truck, I will lead an all out rebellion
Notice that the bans, whether they are good ideas or not, are on new vehicles, not existing.
If they become widespread, if anything, itâll make your dinosaur burner more valuable.
Either way will be an interesting case study on government involvement in the private market. Certainly not the first time, but perhaps the first time with such a large ticket item.
Methinks the EVs are like solar power. Good idea? Sure. But itâs a long ways from being mainstream
Let them try that here and see what happens next
Saving up to buy a new ICE right before the ban if it actually happens (which it probably wonât without a big evolution in battery technology).
I will not buy an EV until I can fill it up in 5 minutes and it doesnât cost so much that itâs not a value proposition.
Thatâs my view. I also know there are lots of issues with not having enough electrical capacity, charging networks, battery disposal, etc., etc. but I donât know details on that and honestly donât care.
All I can tell you is that an EV wonât work for me until those two things happen.
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clt says you are gasman
This is both stupid and interesting, as it shows some out there possibilities for an EV.
That was pretty interesting design concept. Looked awesome.
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DS is not a new brand. Werenât they part of Peugeot or Citroen or something and rolled out like 10 years ago?
The passenger side didnât look that comfortable. They can do better.
Autonomous driving will never happen. Not on the open roads. Maybe on specific modified streets, garages, etc. but it will never be general use.
When I hear people (especially leaders) spouting off about autonomous cars being the future it makes me want to barf.
Never going to happen.
And when a city gets to a certain size it needs mass transit to supplement roads not vaporware of autonomous cars.
Mass transit is the only proven technology to move masses of people at low cost to where they need to be. Thatâs PROVEN technology not pie in the sky vaporware.
When an automated UBER can pick me up in Cabarrus county in the middle of a rainstorm and deposit me in downtown Charlotte (or Pentagon City near DC for that matter!) with the same safety rating as a human driver, the same or better cost profile as owning your own vehicle, the same availability as owning your own vehicle, a defined fair and equitable legal and insurance structure to cover accidents as good as or better than the current system, an automated charging system that doesnât take forever (we have to assume these will be EVs correct?), and a storage and charging scheme that will keep these UBER like automated pod like cars off the streets and in storage somewhere when not on operation (if not whatâs the point. We just have more traffic) then we can talk.
Or we could actually invest in mass transit where needed to supplement travel by car to created a reasonable blend of transport opportunities using existing and proven technology.
This could actually make driving your car more pleasant in the more urban areas.
If you like driving, you should be voting for mass transit. That equals less cars on the road and a better drive for when you do have to or chose to drive.
Itâs also good for those people and industries that have to drive like the post office, tech support people, delivery drivers, construction workers, parks and rec people, etc. etc. there is a vast work force that cannot use transit because they need a vehicle or they cannot work on a specific schedule that supports transit.
I agree with almost all of this. I do think though self driving cars will become a thing. We have a lot of poor drivers. A lot. I think once the tech is there it will make the roads far safer. As a motorcycle. Rider I canât wait for that to happen and as a person that likes to drink at a bar I also canât wait for that to happen.
Agreed on the poor drivers and the worth this could have IF it works. The tech is not even close right now.
If the tech is worked out I predict it will become a part of a blended transit environment that will still largely consist of manual cars and transit.
I just think many people are greatly overestimating the maturity of the technology right now.
Totally agree with tech as it presently is. With some of the challenges we are currently seeing with truckers and delivery drivers business is going to be pushing this big time and tech moves really fast especially if there is capital behind it. I do agree it will be blended in with mass transit and ride sharing.