The same debate again

No, it wasnt…you have just stated it so many times youd never admit it was a mistake now. He was fired after going 19-12 and had been nationally ranked in January of that season. It was a shitty decision then and it looks even shittier now.

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I know I know I know you loved Bobby. I loved him too. If he had come back I wouldn’t have been mad but firing him there was fine too. If the standard was NCAA then he had gone long enough without making it to justify firing. Just like firing Ron now is totally fine. You fail expectations enough times then there should be ramifications.

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In hindsight, it was a F_ckin horrible decision to fire Bobby and not Judy and Phil.

Who gives a damn how the conference tourney is structured?

You either win games or you done.

Ron is not winning games in the conf tourney. He’s not going to the NCAAs. He’s not winning the regular season title.

How you continue to defend Sanchez is mind boggling.

Are you ready to put anything on record as to a specific metric he has to meet next year before he will finally need to be fired?

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He’s Ted Sanchez. What do you expect Ted Sanchez to do?

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A leader does not publicly criticize his subordinates. Hill may not be happy, but he is not going to criticize him in the media. Potential future coaches would not think much of him for doing that. I suspect that the end of the road is coming at the end of next year for Sanchez. Hill is probably not happy, but he was not going to fire two coaches in the same year. Rome was not built in a day. Many of our programs were under performing. It takes time to turn them all around. And obviously Hill is not going to hit a home run on every hire. But he must hit on the majority of hires, or he will be looking at a job. In addition, it is possible that Hill is discussing this with the chancellor. In the long run, one more year makes little difference. With our two best players hitting the portal, I have a feeling it is going to be a long year and firing Hill will be justified next year if Hill has the money to fire him. When he does fire him, I hope that he hires a proven head coach. I would rather have a proven winner from a lower division than an assistant in Division 1.

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I have never called out Mike for his public words on Ron. I get it. I’ve had dinner with Mike and talked basketball. He is also probably hoping that Ron turns it around.

With that said he can still tell the fanbase winning matters and what our expectations are.

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One day, Hill will write a note to self, being “Fire Ron Sanchez”

It’s inevitable.

No I am not suggesting you called out Hill. My comment is not directed at your comment. Many seem to be upset that Hill is not showing his displeasure publicly, but he is not going to do that. Some say that he shows too much support for Sanchez. That is what he is supposed to do publicly even if he is not happy. It would not be professional for Hill to do anything less than show full support for Sanchez. Hill will fire Sanchez when all of the stars align.

For those that continually bash Judy, keep in mind, she was the one that hired Bobby as Head Coach to begin with, and also extended him, even though he was showing signs of not wanting to, or maybe being able to recruit any more. Also, his sideline rants (as entertaining as they were to us) had drawn the ire of the league officials and there were several times it seemed that the officials stopped making anything other than the most blatant calls in our favor during games.

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She also tried to not hire Melvin.

Every bit of our success in basketball can be traced to Jeff Mullins. She deserves no credit.

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I was always glad Melvin got the job and believe a lot of our slow fade into mediocrity, can be traced directly back to his leaving.

But based upon the criteria you and others use for who our next coach or any coach we hire should be, then if Judy wanted to instead pursue a proven D1 head coach 1st, instead of hiring an assistant coach, then she should be applauded. Right?

That is probably the worst “take” i have read, relating to Melvin and Bobby.

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If you have a clear successor on the bench and a winning program you should almost always elevate from within.

If you suck and have sucked hiring someone with a thin resume is an elevated risk.

Alan Major had no resume. Mark Price had no coaching resume. Ron Sanchez’s main credential was that he was a top assistant at a good program, but no head coaching resume.

I absolutely refuse to believe that we could not attract a winning coach at a lower level D1 conference to come in and take over.

I honestly believe our bad hires have been the direct result of the collective hubris of our athletic directors. They refused to use search services and thought and think they are the smartest people in the room when that obviously isn’t true.

I cannot believe we are going into a year six with Sanchez and starting in the AAC with him and his totally dismantled team. It’s mind boggling that we are here. I absolutely refuse to hear this crap about finances. We have a top 80 budget out of over 350 D1 programs. Mike still thinks he is right about Ron and everyone else is an idiot… Or he is a Chapel hill plant and doing his best to prevent basketball from ever being anything respectable ever again.

And before someone pipes up with “Ron was a great hire on paper” as soon as I heard him talk at the introductory press conference I was worried. The same stuff we have today was in place then. A lot of soft words and zero intention of being held accountable. In my experience “trust the process” people without any substance behind that are fakers, pretenders. I’ve worked for people like that before and they are horrible at running anything or building anything. Mike should have known from the interview that Sanchez was all fluff and no substance, but maybe that’s why he loves him so much, gives him exactly what he really wants.

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Great post.

Simply a false narrative. Yes Mullins was no doubt the architect and should be appreciated.

But if you’re gonna lay the blame at Judy’s feet for the bad things then at least have the courtesy to give her credit for the good that happened.

I’m not a historian but I think Halton happened under her regime. I think that helped to elevate the program.

Basically, I’m Switzerland but it wasn’t all bad, personality conflicts from everyone aside.

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Nor have any of our other assistant coach hires.

Jeff is the one that enabled Halton - it did open under Judy. Jeff negotiated our Metro and CUSA membership as well.

I’ll give Judy credit for some things - mostly knowing changing our name was important. Once she didn’t have a choice she stopped trying to stop football. There are things, but all of our men’s basketball success can be traced back to Jeff. The first step she made without his finger prints was Alan Major.

Sanchez is not even mediocre

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