How do you measure this? Until you said this I had absolutely no idea it was so popular so I'm surprised it would be 2nd in the world.
He’s wrong anyway. Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world behind soccer. Formula 1 is definitely top 5 though, I’d say.
While IRL & NASCAR have their problems, the thing I don’t like about F1, is if you win the pole, you win the race, usually. Or at least be 2nd or 3rd.
There is virtually no passing, which is why it doesn’t sell in the US.
That being said, the fact that it sells internationally is a big boon to the school. I can see some 7 foot African F1 fan wanting to play B-Ball at the U. of Charlotte. I can see a future All-Star & potential HOFer from Latin America wanting to come here to play SS on the Baseball team. I can see a Kenyan runner that likes F1 wanting to come here to be on our Cross-Country team.
[QUOTE=SteauA;384337]He’s wrong anyway. [B]Cricket[/B] is the second most popular sport in the world behind soccer. Formula 1 is definitely top 5 though, I’d say.[/QUOTE]
Oh Golly Good Show! Cricket is so civilized and does go so well with tea and crumpets!
Any sport you wear a sweater in is truly civilized.
I think Danica would be good. It would bring in lots of males that watch NASCAR & IRL.
And no this country isn’t above not wanting foreigners on “OUR” team.
And I’m surprised that F1 w/ Lewis Hamilton doesn’t play it up in the black community for support in America. And I’m also surprised that SuperCross/MotoCross doesn’t do the same thing with James Stewart. Both would be a gold-mine in marketing to the black community in the US.
[QUOTE=stonecoldken;384354]I think Danica would be good. It would bring in lots of males that watch NASCAR & IRL.
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She’s not even in the Top 5 IRL drivers, so why would she be considered for F1? Even if she gets the seat because of her looks, that’s a lot of money to throw at questionable ability. If Montoya could not win in F1, there is no way Danica will be succesful.
[QUOTE=stonecoldken;384354]And I’m surprised that F1 w/ Lewis Hamilton doesn’t play it up in the black community for support in America. And I’m also surprised that SuperCross/MotoCross doesn’t do the same thing with James Stewart. Both would be a gold-mine in marketing to the black community in the US.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they don’t want to be marketed as “the black driver”. Maybe they just want to prove they are the best at their sport, period. Both are. Stewart just won his 6th 450cc main event in a row.
[QUOTE=49RFootballNow;384353]Oh Golly Good Show! Cricket is so civilized and does go so well with tea and crumpets!
Any sport you wear a sweater in is truly civilized.
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Hockey is civilized?
Yes they are good on their own merits, but think of the $$$$$$$$$$ they could make being the black driver?
What’s more important? The $ or Making it on your own? If it’s not $, then go work for a non-profit.
[QUOTE=stonecoldken;384458]Yes they are good on their own merits, but think of the $$$$$$$$$$ they could make being the black driver?
What’s more important? The $ or Making it on your own? If it’s not $, then go work for a non-profit.[/QUOTE]
They are making plenty of money being the best driver of their respected sports, not just the “best black driver”. I see what you are saying in that there may be marketing opportunities out there because they are black in predominately non-black sports, but most people in their sport want to be the best, not the best driver of a particular, race, religion, etc. I doubt these guys think much about it.
He's wrong anyway. Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world behind soccer. Formula 1 is definitely top 5 though, I'd say.I was going by TV ratings world wide.
A HUGE chunk of automotive fans in the US would argue with you about NASCAR being unwatchable. What NASCAR offers is a tight racing in a easy viewing arena. I personally like road racing, but have been to more than a few NASCAR races and there is something to be said for seeing the entire track and knowing that the racing will more than likely being going to the last few laps. It also helps that the drivers are very personable and the Frances know exactly how to market their product.Indy and F1 and rally racing all offer a different experience and each are enjoyable. Don’t be a race snob and think your particular choice is really all that much better than another type.
Now if you want some racing that will blow your mind go see motorcycle racing in person. After watching bikes race no racing between cars is not quite as impressive. I am headed to Indy for the Moto GP race this year, but AMA and World Super Bike rock too. In the end though if it has a motor and there is a race involved chances are I will enjoy it!
[QUOTE=ninerrbl;386569]Why is that when somebody says they don’t like NASCAR.They call them a racing snob?..Is just I find oval racing so boring.Sure you get close racing and finishes but where is the driving skill? As Dale Jr said you could put a monkey behind the wheel to qualify at Talladega.I never heard anybody in F1 say anything is easy.
Nascar is more a show than a sport.We don’t judge other sports by how close their games are.[/QUOTE]
There is skill to it, and quite a bit. Ever see Jacques Villanueve drive a stock car? It wasn’t a pretty site. He was all over the place, and only kept his ride for two races with a stock car team. This from a driver who won Indy and the 1997 Formula One title. I would not argue that it’s definitely not as difficult to drive a stock car as it is to manuever an F1 machine. The skills are somewhat unique though, and few can master both. Andretti and Montoya have proved that it can be done, but Villanueve proved that just because you have mastered the open-wheel ranks does not mean you’re going to ace the stock car world. A monkey might be able to drive a lap around Talladega, but the real test is can he do it for 500 miles without causing a big wreck?
[QUOTE=ninerrbl;386569]Why is that when somebody says they don’t like NASCAR.They call them a racing snob?..Is just I find oval racing so boring.Sure you get close racing and finishes but where is the driving skill? As Dale Jr said you could put a monkey behind the wheel to qualify at Talladega.I never heard anybody in F1 say anything is easy.
Nascar is more a show than a sport.We don’t judge other sports by how close their games are.[/QUOTE]
I was just responding to your statement that NASCAR is unwatchable. It just depends on what you want to see. Each kind of racing offers different experiences, no one experience trumps another.
As for skill - racing on an oval inches away from other cars - lap after lap after lap at highspeed does take a certain level of skill. It is just different skill than F1. Just like racing in rally races are a different set of skills.
And we do judge other sports by how close their games are. The NFL is super popular because of the parity and the closeness of talent. College basketball excels in March with close games. If every NFL game was a blow out their ratings would sink.
I am not even a huge NASCAR fan, just get tired of the sport getting run down by people. Motorcycle racing is where my heart is.
Kinda off topic, but does anyone know if they use any kind of computer assistance in the various types of car racing? Like Traction Control, Stability Control, or ABS? No clue how accurate this game is, but in Forza Motorsport 2 it’s a lot harder without those. Particularly TCS and ABS.
Traction control is a big NO-NO in NASCAR, and F1 got rid of it a year ago after a few seasons with it, and this year completely overhauled aerodynamic rules, and switched to slick tyres from grooved tyres in an effort to make passing more common. and i spelled tyres with a y with out realizing it, second nature when talking on F1 boards.
NASCAR is fine and all until it takes away an opportunity for FOX to show an episode of Family Guy on a sunday night…
I am not a NASCAR or any racing fan (horse racing is ok once in a while to go to and bet on), but from what I have caught of NASCAR is that is has become a vehicular WWF, it has become more about the arguements and turmoil than the actual race.
Like I said I am not a fan of it, but I would think this shift in the industry would bother the purists.
[QUOTE=49or bust;386575]Kinda off topic, but does anyone know if they use any kind of computer assistance in the various types of car racing? Like Traction Control, Stability Control, or ABS? No clue how accurate this game is, but in Forza Motorsport 2 it’s a lot harder without those. Particularly TCS and ABS.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=itsbraille49;386584]Traction control is a big NO-NO in NASCAR, and F1 got rid of it a year ago after a few seasons with it, and this year completely overhauled aerodynamic rules, and switched to slick tyres from grooved tyres in an effort to make passing more common. and i spelled tyres with a y with out realizing it, second nature when talking on F1 boards.[/QUOTE]
Piggybacking on what braille said, F1 still uses a lot of telemetry stuff that is outlawed in stock car racing. F1 was basically down to just the driver steering a couple of years ago, the computer did most everything else.
Traction control devices in stock car racing are used, but they are “cheater parts” and are against the rules. They are hard to detect though, because they hide in the transmission housing. Thus, you likely would not be caught with it unless you won and someone protested (which would require officials to make you take it apart and show the insides of the transmission or part being protested). Protesting usually has a cost associated with it, so it’s usually not done unless one driver is blistering the competition. At most tracks and in most series, another driver can only protest the winner’s car. So long as the series/track officials don’t go looking for it, the device probably won’t be detected so long as you are discreet with it.
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Like I said I am not a fan of it, but I would think this shift in the industry would bother the purists.[/QUOTE]
As a life-log racing fan, the only thing that bothers me is the favoritsim to certain drivers, mainly when it comes time to issue penalties. I’ve seen it at the local level all the way to Cup, but that’s what irks me the most. “Stars” or “popular drivers” seem to play by different rules. It’s that way in MLB and the NBA also, but it seems to be more abundant in stock car racing.
From my experience, an F1 car would not benefit from ABS or stability control. The cars a driven at limit and are very light. If anything, ABS and Stability control would limit their driving.
But the traction control like X said is still used. IIRC its more part of the differential and it is legal in mechanical form. I dont know about electronic.
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But the traction control like X said is still used. IIRC its more part of the differential and it is legal in mechanical form. I dont know about electronic.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I mispoke. The traction control devices are usually hidden in the rear-end housing, not the transmission. The illegal variety I was referring to are electronic. I’m not sure if mechanical IIRC devices are legal in all forms of stock car racing, or not.