B/c teachers voted for Bev. That’s worked out great for them !!!
B/c teachers voted for Bev. That’s worked out great for them !!![/quote]
Exactly…damn you democrats… ;D
How at all does it make sense for a pharmacy school in Asheville to not be a part of UNCA? In what way does it make it cheaper for it to be a UNC-CH school?
Let me see if I can get this straight:
A school associated with UNC-CH would not require funds because, I’m assuming, the school has more money of its own than UNCG.
(We’ll have to ignore the part about funds raised from donations because UNCG said they were going to look for something similar, but it does raise the question why on earth UNCG didn’t already have these lined up.)
Back the schools’ personal money, UNC-CH has more and so it can afford to pay what UNCG can’t. However, UNC-CH gets the most of the state funds every year. Obviously, if they are making money, part of that is from having the money required to have a return. So by giving them money, you are making them more money, and taking potential profits away from schools like UNCG in this case.
So to put it in short, you are penalizing UNCG for not needing more money earlier? And now that they are ready to do something that would improve their product, they can’t because they didn’t need that money earlier?
But answer me this: If UNCG and UNC-CH @ Asheville are at the same stages of approval, why has UNC-CH already lined up those funds and not UNCG? And why on earth do you need to get approval to talk to someone about a potential donation?
Because the rules are X to the Y power divided by Z to the W power. Or just be CH.
And yeah, I’ll joing what ever group y’all start. We could start a FB group, & solicit every non-CH grad of a UNC System school. Also any Wingate grad you know.
[quote=“49or bust, post:23, topic:22972”]How at all does it make sense for a pharmacy school in Asheville to not be a part of UNCA? In what way does it make it cheaper for it to be a UNC-CH school?
Let me see if I can get this straight:
A school associated with UNC-CH would not require funds because, I’m assuming, the school has more money of its own than UNCG.
(We’ll have to ignore the part about funds raised from donations because UNCG said they were going to look for something similar, but it does raise the question why on earth UNCG didn’t already have these lined up.)
Back the schools’ personal money, UNC-CH has more and so it can afford to pay what UNCG can’t. However, UNC-CH gets the most of the state funds every year. Obviously, if they are making money, part of that is from having the money required to have a return. So by giving them money, you are making them more money, and taking potential profits away from schools like UNCG in this case.
So to put it in short, you are penalizing UNCG for not needing more money earlier? And now that they are ready to do something that would improve their product, they can’t because they didn’t need that money earlier?
But answer me this: If UNCG and UNC-CH @ Asheville are at the same stages of approval, why has UNC-CH already lined up those funds and not UNCG? And why on earth do you need to get approval to talk to someone about a potential donation?[/quote]
UNC-CH’s numbers were so thrown together that they didn’t even have any figures past year 4. From what I’ve been told UNCG gave them super conservative estimates b/c they assumed that this was all going to get the green light. I guess they figured there was plenty of time to get the donations once they got the approval.
Also from what I have heard, everyone at UNCG, Moses Cone & WFUBMC was taken completely by surprise by this decision. No one had heard a a single negative comment about their proposal. All of a sudden, they hear that there’s not enough demand now for a UNCG Pharmacy school.
[quote=“dashspartan, post:25, topic:22972”][quote=“49or bust, post:23, topic:22972”]How at all does it make sense for a pharmacy school in Asheville to not be a part of UNCA? In what way does it make it cheaper for it to be a UNC-CH school?
Let me see if I can get this straight:
A school associated with UNC-CH would not require funds because, I’m assuming, the school has more money of its own than UNCG.
(We’ll have to ignore the part about funds raised from donations because UNCG said they were going to look for something similar, but it does raise the question why on earth UNCG didn’t already have these lined up.)
Back the schools’ personal money, UNC-CH has more and so it can afford to pay what UNCG can’t. However, UNC-CH gets the most of the state funds every year. Obviously, if they are making money, part of that is from having the money required to have a return. So by giving them money, you are making them more money, and taking potential profits away from schools like UNCG in this case.
So to put it in short, you are penalizing UNCG for not needing more money earlier? And now that they are ready to do something that would improve their product, they can’t because they didn’t need that money earlier?
But answer me this: If UNCG and UNC-CH @ Asheville are at the same stages of approval, why has UNC-CH already lined up those funds and not UNCG? And why on earth do you need to get approval to talk to someone about a potential donation?[/quote]
UNC-CH’s numbers were so thrown together that they didn’t even have any figures past year 4. From what I’ve been told UNCG gave them super conservative estimates b/c they assumed that this was all going to get the green light. I guess they figured there was plenty of time to get the donations once they got the approval.
Also from what I have heard, everyone at UNCG, Moses Cone & WFUBMC was taken completely by surprise by this decision. No one had heard a a single negative comment about their proposal. All of a sudden, they hear that there’s not enough demand now for a UNCG Pharmacy school.[/quote]
Sounds pretty underhanded.
Do you know - if UNCG can get the money on its own, already has the land according to the article, and the school’s leadership obviously already is in favor of it, can they just do it without overlord Bowel’s approval?
[quote=“49or bust, post:26, topic:22972”][quote=“dashspartan, post:25, topic:22972”][quote=“49or bust, post:23, topic:22972”]How at all does it make sense for a pharmacy school in Asheville to not be a part of UNCA? In what way does it make it cheaper for it to be a UNC-CH school?
Let me see if I can get this straight:
A school associated with UNC-CH would not require funds because, I’m assuming, the school has more money of its own than UNCG.
(We’ll have to ignore the part about funds raised from donations because UNCG said they were going to look for something similar, but it does raise the question why on earth UNCG didn’t already have these lined up.)
Back the schools’ personal money, UNC-CH has more and so it can afford to pay what UNCG can’t. However, UNC-CH gets the most of the state funds every year. Obviously, if they are making money, part of that is from having the money required to have a return. So by giving them money, you are making them more money, and taking potential profits away from schools like UNCG in this case.
So to put it in short, you are penalizing UNCG for not needing more money earlier? And now that they are ready to do something that would improve their product, they can’t because they didn’t need that money earlier?
But answer me this: If UNCG and UNC-CH @ Asheville are at the same stages of approval, why has UNC-CH already lined up those funds and not UNCG? And why on earth do you need to get approval to talk to someone about a potential donation?[/quote]
UNC-CH’s numbers were so thrown together that they didn’t even have any figures past year 4. From what I’ve been told UNCG gave them super conservative estimates b/c they assumed that this was all going to get the green light. I guess they figured there was plenty of time to get the donations once they got the approval.
Also from what I have heard, everyone at UNCG, Moses Cone & WFUBMC was taken completely by surprise by this decision. No one had heard a a single negative comment about their proposal. All of a sudden, they hear that there’s not enough demand now for a UNCG Pharmacy school.[/quote]
Sounds pretty underhanded.
Do you know - if UNCG can get the money on its own, already has the land according to the article, and the school’s leadership obviously already is in favor of it, can they just do it without overlord Bowel’s approval?[/quote]
No
BoG has approval of all academic programs at every institution.
Lets review for clarity:
Who works for Chapel Hill:
Governor
Legislature
Courts
Media
BoG
All other UNC Institutions
BOW DOWN AND OBEY INGRATEFUL DOGS! Chapel Hill’s b****es wear Chapel Hill’s collars!
[quote=“49or bust, post:26, topic:22972”]Sounds pretty underhanded.
Do you know - if UNCG can get the money on its own, already has the land according to the article, and the school’s leadership obviously already is in favor of it, can they just do it without overlord Bowel’s approval?[/quote]
Nope. Every degree program has got to given the go ahead at every UNC system school. This whole thing is grave yard dead if the BOG’s agree with Erskine’s recomendations (which they will). UNCG’s administration is working very hard to make a last ditch appeal at the meeting. It won’t work, though. >:(
[quote=“49RFootballNow, post:27, topic:22972”][quote=“49or bust, post:26, topic:22972”]Sounds pretty underhanded.
Do you know - if UNCG can get the money on its own, already has the land according to the article, and the school’s leadership obviously already is in favor of it, can they just do it without overlord Bowel’s approval?[/quote]
No
BoG has approval of all academic programs at every institution.[/quote]
Hmm. I guess I understand this since the school could ultimately ask for funding for a program after it was started, so the BoG would need to approve it in order to keep from over stretching the System’s funds. Seems like if a school entered into a contract that said a certain unapproved program would never receive state funding it would be okay. But then of course the school would essentially be private and not public, at least in that program.
Chancellor Brady’s response explains a lot …
http://www.news-record.com/blog/54431/entry/87155
5. UNCG has submitted a request to plan, not a request to establish. Many of the concerns raised by the review team in its report, such as the need for a specific plan to finance the building or the importance of engaging independent and chain community pharmacies, would have been addressed as part of the planning process. In fact, UNCG provided details in our request to plan that ordinarily are not required until a request to establish is submitted.
Here’s the sad part …
7. In denying UNCG’s request to plan, this recommendation and the associated conditions effectively removes the opportunity for UNCG to make the case to establish a stand-alone research-intensive School of Pharmacy in the future, regardless of how the needs of the region and the state may evolve
[quote=“dashspartan, post:30, topic:22972”]Chancellor Brady’s response explains a lot …
5. UNCG has submitted a request to plan, not a request to establish. Many of the concerns raised by the review team in its report, such as the need for a specific plan to finance the building or the importance of engaging independent and chain community pharmacies, would have been addressed as part of the planning process. In fact, UNCG provided details in our request to plan that ordinarily are not required until a request to establish is submitted.
Here’s the sad part …
7. In denying UNCG’s request to plan, this recommendation and the associated conditions effectively removes the opportunity for UNCG to make the case to establish a stand-alone research-intensive School of Pharmacy in the future, regardless of how the needs of the region and the state may evolve[/quote] Well now that's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They want you to plan in order to approve you to plan??
Sounds to me like the only option (besides giving up) is to go outside the lines and have a full plan ready and just do this planning without their approval to plan… wow this is dumb.
So when will the UNC-CH Chancellor give an announcement about how they’re plan was shittier than UNCG’s, but they just have the stroke, & the other 15 schools can kiss his a55? I’d actually respect him more for being honest, than for him to put out a BS report saying UNC-CH deserved to be in UNCA’s backyard more than UNCG deserved to be in their own.
Oh Yeah, let’s wait until the day AFTER the NCGA approves the UNC BOG’s recommendation of our BOT’s Football Approval to bitch. Then we can really raise some HELL!
clt says there is no way that the unc-ch plan will work.
we should get the pharma school
We already have a feeder Pharma school. After 2 years, our students have to go to CH.
Maybe we could sell our program to G-Boro, let them expand it to 4 years, in exchange for $ to the B-Ball/F-Ball Coaches Fund.
the sad thing about all this is chapel hill keeps screwing over the other schools but no one is able to do anything about it without causing a big stink.
Was there any doubt that Chapel Hill would win this despite the fact that UNC Greensboro had $70 million in pledges and Chapel Hill only had $2 million?
Do you have any kind of idea the battle we’ll face to get a medical school?
Here’s one you’ll hear again…“They’ll have trouble attracting quality faculty”.
Chapel Hill = power and money grubbing fuckers