Me and Savio having a discussion on the board. Who is UNC? Answers wanted.
University of Northern Colorado?
[QUOTE=Ninerballin;202540]Me and Savio having a discussion on the board. Who is UNC? Answers wanted.[/QUOTE]
I may be riding the fense on this one, but this is reality:
Technically, ‘UNC’ is all of us - UNC Charlotte + 15 other institutions in this state (I won’t count Northern Colorado, etc. for this discussion)
Realistically, according to anyone you meet and the media, UNC is UNC Chapel Hill…and that is really all that matters. If the media and general public consider UNC and UNC Chapel Hill the same school/team, then that is how it is.
[QUOTE=C49er;202557]I may be riding the fense on this one, but this is reality:
Technically, ‘UNC’ is all of us - UNC Charlotte + 15 other institutions in this state (I won’t count Northern Colorado, etc. for this discussion)
Realistically, according to anyone you meet and the media, UNC is UNC Chapel Hill…and that is really all that matters. If the media and general public consider UNC and UNC Chapel Hill the same school/team, then that is how it is.[/QUOTE]
Now is Reality not correct. All I am saying is that UNC isn’t correctly identifying Chapell Hill. Just 99% of the population of the US believes that UNC is the correct name for UNC-Ch doesn’t make it correct.
When I refer to Chapell Hill , I refer to them as UNC-Ch. And YES i used to think UNC was the correct name growing up, but when I became informed, i didn’t refer to them as that. The fact is that most people are UNINFORMED and don’t know about all the other UNC’s (Wilmington, Charlotte, Greensboro, Pembroke, Asheville, etc…).
Also, UNC-Ch has spread their lie that they are UNC and therefore fooled most people into thinking they are “UNC.” They want to present themselves in a way like they run the UNC system and therefore when a person sees UNC Wilmington or UNC Charlotte or UNC Asheville then they think that it is some satellite campus of Chapell Hill (which is retarded, but that is how Chapell Hill has built their University. They want the world to think their university represents the whole state and they are THE (only) university of the people of North Carolina (which isn’t true).
UNC = A system of 16 schools in NC. But…
Perception = Reality
But yea, I gotta agree with C on this one. Guys, we’re screwed. We are not going to change the system. We have to work with it. UNC is Chapel Hill and they are too big and too old for us to change them. Chapel Hill will only relinquish its stranglehold on our system’s initials if either they agree to it or the system heads agree to it, and I see neither of those happening anytime before hell freezes over.
We can fight it all we want on here and say UNC-CH or whatever, but the fact remains that UNC will still stand for both the system and that fairie school to the North. What we can do, however, is unite behind our own identity and get the name of the school changed. That is the only way we are ever going to be able to combat this issue.
I love this debate, because it keeps coming up. I also love to take the opposite side, just because. What is the University of Michigan, what is the University of Florida, what is UVa, what is the University of Wisconsin, what is the University of Nebraska, what is UT? What is OSU? It goes on and on. Every state, with the possible exception of California and New York, has one clear-cut flagship campus of their university that lays claim to the moniker for that state. That’s how it’s done. Wisconsin-Milwaukee, sorry about your luck. You’re UWM, or you can try to just be Milwaukee athletically. University of Nebraska-Ohama, sorry about your luck, you’re not the University of Nebraska. University of Texas-San Antonio? Enjoy UTSA. University of Massachusetts at Lowell? UMass Lowell. University of Massachusetts at Amherst? UMass. Period.
They’re the biggest, they’re the baddest, they’re the oldest (in the nation too), and I don’t really see why they shouldn’t be UNC. They were UNC before any other campuses existed.
I will be back in a few days, enjoy bashing me in the interim.
[QUOTE=Brick Tamland, Weather;202566]I love this debate, because it keeps coming up. I also love to take the opposite side, just because. What is the University of Michigan, what is the University of Florida, what is UVa, what is the University of Wisconsin, what is the University of Nebraska, what is UT? What is OSU? It goes on and on. Every state, with the possible exception of California and New York, has one clear-cut flagship campus of their university that lays claim to the moniker for that state. That’s how it’s done. Wisconsin-Milwaukee, sorry about your luck. You’re UWM, or you can try to just be Milwaukee athletically. University of Nebraska-Ohama, sorry about your luck, you’re not the University of Nebraska. University of Texas-San Antonio? Enjoy UTSA. University of Massachusetts at Lowell? UMass Lowell. University of Massachusetts at Amherst? UMass. Period.
They’re the biggest, they’re the baddest, they’re the oldest (in the nation too), and I don’t really see why they shouldn’t be UNC. They were UNC before any other campuses existed.
I will be back in a few days, enjoy bashing me in the interim.[/QUOTE]
Tis true that the buildings at Chapell Hill they call the University of North Carolina was first and it was called the University of North Carolina at first. But, when the University was first created, “The University of North Carolina was anticipated by a section of the first state constitution drawn up in 1776 directing the establishing of “one or more universities” in which “all useful learning shall be duly encouraged and promoted.”” -[URL=http://www.unc.edu/about/history.html]http://www.unc.edu/about/history.html[/URL]
Even UNC-Chapell Hill’s own website uses the correct term. Granite they do ackowledge themselves several times as UNC, it is because they wanted to keep the term that described the school when it was the only public one in North Carolina. When others were added, they felt like they had priority and so they just kept the Acronym and has made it apart of their school.
Of course, with them keeping the acronym doesn’t mean that is their correct name. Look at any one of thier degree certificate and it won’t say The University of North Carolina. It will say The University of North Carolina at Chapell Hill.
“Another asset that contributes to this reputation is UNC-Chapel Hill’s superb library system containing more than four million volumes.” - per Another asset that contributes to this reputation is UNC-Chapel Hill’s superb library system containing more than four million volumes.[URL=http://www.unc.edu/about/history.html]http://www.unc.edu/about/history.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Max Power;202543]University of Northern Colorado?[/QUOTE]
My sister attended UNC! It’s in Greeley.
[HTML]UNC ? ? ?[/HTML][URL=http://www.uncm.edu/]http://www.uncm.edu/[/URL]
[B]Granite[/B] they do ackowledge themselves several times as UNC, it is because they wanted to keep the term that described the school when it was the only public one in North Carolina.
Are you calling Brick a rock?
:lol:
Nice letter to the Editor/Observer today… [URL=http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/16137503.htm]http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/16137503.htm[/URL]
[B]Observer forum: Letters to the editor[/B]
[B]I don’t see UCLA trying to become `U. of L.A.’[/B]
In response to " `At Charlotte' must go to raise UNCC's profile" (Nov. 30 Forum), et al.:This "University of Charlotte" crusade needs to be nipped in the bud.UNCC, from which I graduated in 1971, is not a city college but part of a proud state university system, just as surely as is the well-branded University of California at Los Angeles.
My alma mater had it right years ago when, using the successful UCLA model, it branded itself and its athletic teams as UNCC. It’s bad enough that it has since rebranded its basketball team as “Charlotte,” but to do something similar to the entire university would be Charlotte boosterism gone mad.
[I]Ron Alridge [/I]
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UC-Davis, UC-Irvine probably love their names as much as we do… fool… This idiot picks the most recognizable branch in the system to discuss/make a reference. That’s like picking UNC - Chapel Hill and saying, [I]“They [/I]don’t seem to have a problem with it.” How do others feel, though? Berkeley prefers Berkeley, not UC-Berkeley… look at how they have that particular part stand out on their site: [URL=http://www.berkeley.edu/]http://www.berkeley.edu/[/URL]
This thread makes us sound like a bunch of little brats. Can we drop it?
This thread makes us sound like a bunch of little brats. Can we drop it?
What, the UNC name? Sure we’ll drop it… done.
We’re now the University of Charlotte.
I love this debate, because it keeps coming up. I also love to take the opposite side, just because. What is the University of Michigan, what is the University of Florida, what is UVa, what is the University of Wisconsin, what is the University of Nebraska, what is UT? What is OSU? It goes on and on. Every state, with the possible exception of California and New York, has one clear-cut flagship campus of their university that lays claim to the moniker for that state. That's how it's done. Wisconsin-Milwaukee, sorry about your luck. You're UWM, or you can try to just be Milwaukee athletically. University of Nebraska-Ohama, sorry about your luck, you're not the University of Nebraska. University of Texas-San Antonio? Enjoy UTSA. University of Massachusetts at Lowell? UMass Lowell. University of Massachusetts at Amherst? UMass. Period.They’re the biggest, they’re the baddest, they’re the oldest (in the nation too), and I don’t really see why they shouldn’t be UNC. They were UNC before any other campuses existed.
Absolutely. As much as I would love to have “UNC” refer to UNCC, it doesn’t and it isn’t fair to expect it to. Whether you like Chapel Hill or not (I usually just refer to it as HomoUniversity, but then there’s problem separating it from Duke), they are the biggest and the baddest and have earned the right to be UNC. I’m sure Pembroke has this same issue except, it’s at Pembroke, so the conversation uses less big words and more grunting.
I have no idea why I just made fun of poor little Pembroke. I’m sorry, I love you. You’re where learning gets personal.
This thread makes us sound like a bunch of little brats. Can we drop it?Pardon my bluntness, but how the hell does this make us sound like brats?? The only people who would actually think that probably know nothing of our plight to begin with. All myself and most any true fan and supporter of Charlotte asks for is a football team and a name change, and both for very good, very obvious reasons. That's it. We're not asking for the world here. Just to change our name and get out from behind UNC-CH's shadow.
[quote=TheNinerAlchemist;203046]Whether you like Chapel Hill or not (I usually just refer to it as HomoUniversity, but then there’s problem separating it from Duke), they are the biggest and the baddest and have earned the right to be UNC. I’m sure Pembroke has this same issue except, it’s at Pembroke, so the conversation uses less big words and more grunting.
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And, WE have earned the right to have our OWN name. We are the 4th largest research university in the state and the only true urban university in NC, we have 21.3k+ students, etc.
Chapel Hill can call themselves whatever the hell they want… I could care less. Just like we can call ourselves whatever the hell we want.
The General Assembly perpetuates the one UNC stereotype by having the UNC System offices in Chapel Hill. Do an outside observer from 49 other states, it would seem that the having the HQ, makes UNC-CH, UNC.
I don’t feel sorry for UNCP. I feel sorry for us, UNCG, UNCA, UNCW, but UNCP asked for it. They should have stayed Pembroke State U.
U of Charlotte seems to be the only solution.
UCLA is not a fair example because their athletic program has historically been better than Cal’s. We’ve historically been trying to catch up to UNC-CH. UC-Davis, UC-Irvine, etc., are better examples. I’m sure they’d prefer U of Davis & U of Irvine. Look at the Cal State system. Technically, Fresno St. is Cal St.-Fresno, but they don’t go by that. Also Long Beach St. is technically Cal St.-Long Beach.