I was lucky enough to attend this yearâs Army Navy game in Philadelphia. During the third quarter, the Army band struck Gary the pedophile Glitterâs song, âRock and Roll Part One.â You know, the song with the âyou suckâ chant. And the Army cadets, the future heroes and leaders of our country gleefuly shouted in unison âYOU SUCK!â to the Navey Midshipmen. Perhaps our students arenât so classless.
[QUOTE=49or bust;223460]Why?[/QUOTE]
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âB.S.â - Iâm a hypocrite cause I did it as a student in my day, but on TV and from the other side of the arena, it looks so ridiculously juvenile. Actually, just saying âB.S.â (abbreviated) would be worlds better.
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âYou suckâ - because it sounds retarded coming from our fans when weâre losing. And when weâre winning, if you think about it, it just demeans our effort too.
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Both of them are unoriginal and kinda mindless. I actually like that story about the Duke fans chanting âWe respectfully disagreeâ. Thatâs funny. So are nursery rhymes, heckling an opposing player with a bad hairstyle/attitude/etc, and nearly anything else creative.
I think the student section is at its best when they coordinate on the fly chants like you guys really started doing after that game @ Providence Day, and when we hammered Davidson a couple years ago (oh how long ago that seems). âThis is our houseâ is Quality (yes, capital Q).
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;223552]I was lucky enough to attend this yearâs Army Navy game in Philadelphia. During the third quarter, the Army band struck Gary the pedophile Glitterâs song, âRock and Roll Part One.â You know, the song with the âyou suckâ chant. And the Army cadets, the future heroes and leaders of our country gleefuly shouted in unison âYOU SUCK!â to the Navey Midshipmen. Perhaps our students arenât so classless.[/QUOTE]
No, itâs still pretty much classless.
1. "B.S." - I'm a hypocrite cause I did it as a student in my day, but on TV and from the other side of the arena, it looks so ridiculously juvenile. Actually, just saying "B.S." (abbreviated) would be worlds better.
âYou suckâ - because it sounds retarded coming from our fans when weâre losing. And when weâre winning, if you think about it, it just demeans our effort too.
Both of them are unoriginal and kinda mindless. I actually like that story about the Duke fans chanting âWe respectfully disagreeâ. Thatâs funny. So are nursery rhymes, heckling an opposing player with a bad hairstyle/attitude/etc, and nearly anything else creative.
I think the student section is at its best when they coordinate on the fly chants like you guys really started doing after that game @ Providence Day, and when we hammered Davidson a couple years ago (oh how long ago that seems). âThis is our houseâ is Quality (yes, capital Q).
very well said 
The D-D-DâŚDefense! chant was just a waist of breath, because we werenât going to play any anyway.
i freakin hate the âyou cant do thatâ chant.
the best chant our school ever had, they put the kabash on itâŚ
U! âŚbrass band
N! âŚmore band
C! âŚband
C! âŚband
U N C C âŚroll niners roll
it would wear out the male cheerleader trying to spell UNCC on the ground
[QUOTE=ninerball49;223649]i freakin hate the âyou cant do thatâ chant.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I havent been a fan of that one either
I also dont like the âWe-want-2- or 3â
1. "B.S." - I'm a hypocrite cause I did it as a student in my day, but on TV and from the other side of the arena, it looks so ridiculously juvenile. Actually, just saying "B.S." (abbreviated) would be worlds better.
âYou suckâ - because it sounds retarded coming from our fans when weâre losing. And when weâre winning, if you think about it, it just demeans our effort too.
Both of them are unoriginal and kinda mindless. I actually like that story about the Duke fans chanting âWe respectfully disagreeâ. Thatâs funny. So are nursery rhymes, heckling an opposing player with a bad hairstyle/attitude/etc, and nearly anything else creative.
I think the student section is at its best when they coordinate on the fly chants like you guys really started doing after that game @ Providence Day, and when we hammered Davidson a couple years ago (oh how long ago that seems). âThis is our houseâ is Quality (yes, capital Q).
I think âbullshitâ is acceptable when it is really bullshit. These A10 refs ask for it all the time. Considering how bad they are, I think we are rather reserved on the use of that chant. If we did it all the time, I could understand the argument for being juvenile, but we dont so I ârespectfully disagree.â
As for âyou suck,â I think it is dumb to just yell it out. I only like it when we do it during the spelling out of N-I-N-E-R-S when everyone would point and say âyou suckâ where those hyphens are. It grew on me. I donât really care about the actual words âyou suck.â Some people take it a lot more offensively than others, but I personally donât mind it at all. But I have realized that I would be happy if we just said anything at all and pointed like the old days. I like âyou suckâ but if we said âyou stink,â I would be just as happy.
Would anybody object to âduh-duh duh-duhhh duh-duh [SIZE=4]N[/SIZE]⌠point âYOU STINKâ ?â
I think "bullshit" is acceptable when it is really bullshit. These A10 refs ask for it all the time. Considering how bad they are, I think we are rather reserved on the use of that chant. If we did it all the time, I could understand the argument for being juvenile, but we dont so I "respectfully disagree."As for âyou suck,â I think it is dumb to just yell it out. I only like it when we do it during the spelling out of N-I-N-E-R-S when everyone would point and say âyou suckâ where those hyphens are. It grew on me. I donât really care about the actual words âyou suck.â Some people take it a lot more offensively than others, but I personally donât mind it at all. But I have realized that I would be happy if we just said anything at all and pointed like the old days. I like âyou suckâ but if we said âyou stink,â I would be just as happy.
Would anybody object to âduh-duh duh-duhhh duh-duh [SIZE=4]N[/SIZE]⌠point âYOU STINKâ ?â
While the âyou suck!â chant is classless, it also does not make sense.
Usually, the song goes, âHey!â and then is typically followed by, âyou suck!ââŚas in âHey! You suck!â
However, we spell out âN-I-N-E-R-S!â, so âyou suck!â doesnât fit.
âN! you suck! I! you suck!..â doesnât quite work so well, in my opinion. Neither would âyou stink!â or âyou smell!â or even âwe suck!â
And its been mentioned before, but âbullshitâ just makes us look classless and I personally would not want my children to hear it if I brought my family to a game. It is one thing if a few students occasionally curse, but an entire student sectionâŚ
While the "you suck!" chant is classless, it also does not make sense.Usually, the song goes, âHey!â and then is typically followed by, âyou suck!ââŚas in âHey! You suck!â
However, we spell out âN-I-N-E-R-S!â, so âyou suck!â doesnât fit.
âN! you suck! I! you suck!..â doesnât quite work so well, in my opinion. Neither would âyou stink!â or âyou smell!â or even âwe suck!â
Eh. Weak argument. We are both rooting for ourselves and against them in one chant. That is why there is pointing. If we didnât point, it wouldnt make sense, but we do so everyone knows who we are talking about.
And its been mentioned before, but "bullshit" just makes us look classless and I personally would not want my children to hear it if I brought my family to a game. It is one thing if a few students occasionally curse, but an entire student section...We have different stances and views on class and language so this kinda isn't debatable; but basically, I disagree with both your arguments.
OK bust, you donât think several hundred students yelling BULLLSHIT! at the top of their lungs in a public environment isnt classless? Man you would fit in well at MarylandâŚ
And the âyou suckâ chant. Flat out stupid until WE dont suck anymore. Even if we were undefeated and blew everyone out, its still just dumb and unoriginal.
OK bust, you don't think several hundred students yelling BULLLSHIT! at the top of their lungs in a public environment isnt classless? Man you would fit in well at Maryland...No, I don't. If we yelled it out when it wasn't actually bullshit, that would be dumb, but if it is a bullshit call, then it is what it is and I don't see why we can't express our anger. Whether we boo or everyone yells random stuff or we yell "bullshit" in unison, the message conveyed is still the same: we think it was a bad call.
If you would rather yell something out that doesnât inlude a âbad word,â thatâs fine by me, but I personally donât care about âbad words.â I think the whole notion of âbad wordsâ (barring racial slurs) is absurd. So I cannot share your stance on the chant. If the people at Maryland yell âbullshitâ or whatever, then I say more power to 'em.
And the "you suck" chant. Flat out stupid until WE dont suck anymore. Even if we were undefeated and blew everyone out, its still just dumb and unoriginal.If us sucking means we shouldn't shout anything about the other team, then half of what was said this year shouldn't have been said either. But the fact remains that even though we sucked this year, we still did those chants, and even Northern Colorado(RPI 336) fans probably do them as well, so saying we suck isn't a viable argument for not doing a chant.
I agree that simply saying âyou suckâ is dumb. I think it is better if it is in some kinda of chant, but if you take issue with the words used, then I think we should just change them, not cut the whole thing out. I dont care what it is, if it fits in between the letters while we are spelling out N-I-N-E-R-S and makes sense, Ill go for it. I just miss that chant.
Personally I dont like the You Suck chant, Iâd rather say go green or something.
But the BULLSHIT chant⌠thats another story. Were talking little kids. Parents dont want their little kids hearing that.
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If you would rather yell something out that doesnât inlude a âbad word,â thatâs fine by me, but I personally donât care about âbad words.â I think the whole notion of âbad wordsâ (barring racial slurs) is absurd. So I cannot share your stance on the chant. If the people at Maryland yell âbullshitâ or whatever, then I say more power to 'em.
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Haha ok bust, I like you a lot man, but you have some seriously flawed logic.
Here is what youâre saying⌠You dont think itâs bad to yell out what is socially considered âbad words.â Therefore, itâs OK for you to yell bullshit at the top of your lungs because, to [I]you[/I], itâs acceptable.
Alright, what if, in my mind, random violence was acceptable. And I come and blindside the crap out of you with my strongest punch and put you in the hospital for a month. Ok you would be pretty pissed right? That was messed up of me to do right? Well wait, its ok to [I]me[/I], so therefore it was an ok thing for me to do. If [I]I[/I] dont have a problem with it, then who cares? Right?
See, just because you think itâs OK to yell obscenities in Halton Arena, doesnât make it OK.
Like I said, I like you Will, youre the man, but you just have to realize that whether or not the idea of âbad wordsâ is dumb, it is still not an appropriate thing to yell.
But the BULLSHIT chant.. thats another story. Were talking little kids. Parents dont want their little kids hearing that.If its a little kid then they shouldn't even know what the word means and probably wont even understand what we are saying. If the kid is old enough to know what the word means or what we are saying, then they obviously have heard it before and know better than to use the word because they heard it at a basketball game. Furthermore, if they have already heard the word and know what it is, then they are not hearing anything knew and hearing it is doing them no harm.
Haha ok bust, I like you a lot man, but you have some seriously flawed logic.Here is what youâre saying⌠You dont think itâs bad to yell out what is socially considered âbad words.â Therefore, itâs OK for you to yell bullshit at the top of your lungs because, to you, itâs acceptable.
Alright, what if, in my mind, random violence was acceptable. And I come and blindside the crap out of you with my strongest punch and put you in the hospital for a month. Ok you would be pretty pissed right? That was messed up of me to do right? Well wait, its ok to me, so therefore it was an ok thing for me to do. If I dont have a problem with it, then who cares? Right?
See, just because you think itâs OK to yell obscenities in Halton Arena, doesnât make it OK.
Like I said, I like you Will, youre the man, but you just have to realize that whether or not the idea of âbad wordsâ is dumb, it is still not an appropriate thing to yell.
I understand this. Itâs about respect. You have to respect peoples rights. But shouting âbullshitâ out at a basketball game isnât exactly putting someone in the hospital. If someone has a problem with it that bad, they probably have worse problems. I just donât think hearing âbullshitâ once (or several times if the refs are having a really bad night) is going to nor should it hurt anyone that bad.
[QUOTE=49or bust;223844]I understand this. Itâs about respect. You have to respect peoples rightsâŚ[/QUOTE]
Their rights? Ohh like their right to be able to go out in public with their families and not have to listen to obscenities being shouted.
Yeah youâre right, itâs about respect, which is EXACTLY why we shouldnt be yelling bullllshit at games.
Their rights? Ohh like their right to be able to go out in public with their families and not have to listen to obscenities being shouted.Yeah youâre right, itâs about respect, which is EXACTLY why we shouldnt be yelling bullllshit at games.
It is about how far do you go to respect peoples rights tho. You gotta draw the line somewhere. Take gay men kissing for example. Id say more people care about this than obscenities and more passionatley. Some people are so offended by this they will beat you up if they see you kiss another dude. Should gay people not kiss each other in public because other people have a problem with it? These people feel they have the right to not see gay people kiss, but I donât think gay people should have to respect that.
Likewise, some people feel they should be able to go around and not hear obsceneties. I donât disagree with this, but if the refs make a bad call and I want to give them a piece of my mind, I think these people should be able to deal with it. These people canât go around expecting to be able to hide from the real world all the time, and I donât think I should have to curtail my behavior all the time so that they can stay in their bubble.